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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDOW currently down -520 points. Down over 2000 since Jan 4. The...
...financial system collapse many have said is inevitable seems to be here.
Am I wrong? Is this just a correction? How low will it go?
Rex
(65,616 posts)And those owners will do like they always do, mop up what is left over.
Orrex
(63,209 posts)along with a healthy dose of scolding for all those private citizens irresponsible enough not to be market-savvy investment geniuses with a glut of disposable income.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Orrex
(63,209 posts)So who are you asking?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)The biggest difference between a defined benefit pension plan and a defined contribution plan is who gets to manage the investments.
A better question might be, what makes defined benefit pension plans better in regards to market fluctuations?
hack89
(39,171 posts)it is the only way they make economic sense.
Orrex
(63,209 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Rybak187
(105 posts)The collapse will hold off until the end of this year or the beginning of next year.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Collapse before election = repuke landslide.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Elmergantry
(884 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)for the 5% of Americans not living paycheck to paycheck. For the rest, not so much.
Elmergantry
(884 posts)I live pc to pc for the most part, but a little piece of my earnings goes into stock via 401K...
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)davekriss
(4,616 posts)But my guess is it will fall (presenting a super buy opportunity for those with cash). All signs point to recession. The collapse of stock values will only cement the reality.
At least this is my uniformed, lay opinion. No one should base an investment decision on these remarks. I have a long, wonderfully negative investment track record.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)The stock market, as it is currently regulated, is more a shared delusion than an economic engine. As long as everyone believes, things are fine, but it doesn't take many people bolting to cause a full scale panic.
The banks are heavily invested in oil ventures since, you know, oil prices were going to rise forever, like real estate prices did. And with all of those loans going sour, and China's economy imploding, things are going to get ugly, just in time to blame Obama for it all.
edhopper
(33,576 posts)and specifically China. Probably an over reaction.
The US Economy is strong and earning reports have been good.
Might be a good time to buy at a low.
brooklynite
(94,543 posts)We continue to methodically invest in a balanced set of equities, bonds and CDs.
Market goes up: they're more valuable.
Market goes down: they're cheaper to buy.
Ligyron
(7,632 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And it depends on the banks
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)At the end of 2013 - a gnat's hair more than 2 years ago - the markets were celebrating their best year in over a decade and the bulls were celebrating.
The broader indexes were lower than they are now, and the DJIA wasn't much higher.
I remember people saying then it would collapse soon and I was a fool to buy so high. Now they are still telling me it will collapse, but because the same numbers are so low.
Me? I just trust DCA, with over a century of good evidence why.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Lots of junk bonds are going under.
The big bank stocks are down 10% or more because of this.
So far this seems contained. Consumer spending and non-oil manufacturing as well as healthcare and service sectors are doing just fine.