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magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:22 AM Feb 2016

Holy Fuck. EU told ExxonMobil that TTIP will remove environmental regulations/obstacles; aid global

expansion
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/feb/23/eu-told-exxonmobil-that-ttip-would-aid-global-expansion-documents-reveal

Trade chief told oil giant in secret talks that free trade deal could address its concerns over regulations restricting activities in developing countries

The European Union’s trade commissioner told the multinational oil company ExxonMobil that a major free trade deal being negotiated with the US would help remove obstacles to fossil fuel development in Africa and South America, documents obtained by the Guardian reveal.

At a meeting in Brussels in October 2013, Karel de Gucht told the firm that the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) could address its concerns about regulations in developing countries that restrict the company’s activities.

According to minutes of the October meeting, the hour-long conversation focused on shale gas; “geopolitical aspects”; EU plans to label tar sands as high-polluting; and a possible reconversion of ExxonMobil’s liquefied natural gas (LNG) import terminal in the US to export crude to Europe. This would be “costly and may take two-three years,” the minutes said.

TTIP is perhaps more relevant as setting a precedent vis-a-vis third countries than governing trade and investment bilaterally,” the paper says. “We think that this third country element is in the interest of the energy sector, and especially globally active companies like Shell or Exxonmobil. After all, companies like Shell or Exxonmobil face the same trade barriers when doing business in Africa, in Russia or in South America.”

The commission was in effect saying that once the trade deal was in place, other countries outside it would be progressively forced to adopt the same measures, making it easier for companies such as ExxonMobil to expand into their markets.
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Holy Fuck. EU told ExxonMobil that TTIP will remove environmental regulations/obstacles; aid global (Original Post) magical thyme Feb 2016 OP
This thing is just one monstrous, ugly, disgusting corporate coup. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #1
Dickster Cheney is probably wondering why he wasn't invited to the secret talks AxionExcel Feb 2016 #2
And - no vote for anyone who has had anything to do with the TPP and/or the TTIP. or Fast Track. djean111 Feb 2016 #3
The horrible truth is that every dollar in Wall St is shilling for it. raouldukelives Feb 2016 #12
Just more exploitative colonialism, fone for corporations and the wealthy. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #4
Hillary Clinton labels TTIP as an ‘economic NATO’ EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #5
I wish Cheney would travel overseas! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #6
I'm voting for Bernie Sanders. erlewyne Feb 2016 #7
One more reason not to vote for Hillary Don Draper Feb 2016 #8
The Dinosaurs are winning houston16revival Feb 2016 #9
Sad K&R. I hope Europeans can defeat the TTIP Overseas Feb 2016 #10
I now... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #11
Shirking our most important responsibility humbled_opinion Feb 2016 #13
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #14
There was an OP yesterday asking if HRC supporters were for TPP dragonfly301 Feb 2016 #15
kicking for the afternoon crowd. nt magical thyme Feb 2016 #16
and kicking once more for the evening crowd. nt magical thyme Feb 2016 #17

AxionExcel

(755 posts)
2. Dickster Cheney is probably wondering why he wasn't invited to the secret talks
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:28 AM
Feb 2016

...since secret oil deals are his Republican speciality...

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. And - no vote for anyone who has had anything to do with the TPP and/or the TTIP. or Fast Track.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:30 AM
Feb 2016

That includes shilling.

Bottom line, set in stone, and - we talk about this at home, and my grandson talks about this at work. The younger people are becoming aware of this corporate shit. And who inflicts it, and who perpetuates it.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
12. The horrible truth is that every dollar in Wall St is shilling for it.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:45 AM
Feb 2016

No shock they are growing more wary. They have known only war & climate change in their short lives. They have seen only the hollowing out of our democracy, our country and our world itself for the benefit of a few shareholders. We will all be gone and they will be left with the fruits of our labors. May their youthful optimism outlast mine.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. Just more exploitative colonialism, fone for corporations and the wealthy.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:30 AM
Feb 2016

They feel they've milked governments for about all they can, and now they just want to skip governments entirely.

DUbeornot2be

(367 posts)
11. I now...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:22 AM
Feb 2016

...see why people are so resolute about Hillary looking out for blacks and Latinos...

But I guess they aren't "likely democratic primary voters" so they don't matter...

This should really help establish her credibility among the minorities...!

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
13. Shirking our most important responsibility
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:03 AM
Feb 2016

How can we allow this TTIP to happen, we need organized protests...

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
14. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:11 AM
Feb 2016

The TTIP and the TPP are designed to perpetuate the cluster fuck corporations have foisted on us.

Right now consumer voices go unheard while corporations and their political representatives abuse us. These "trade agreements" will only make our plight worse.

We want to reverse the damage but the corporations and their allies want to cause more. Corporations like Nestle, Monsanto and Halliburton. The entire pharmaceutical industry.

dragonfly301

(399 posts)
15. There was an OP yesterday asking if HRC supporters were for TPP
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:33 AM
Feb 2016

I was dismayed but not surprised that some of the responses showed little understanding of the ramifications of TPP. I guess when the deal was negotiated in secret with just speculation and leaks for years, it's understandable that many voters would be lacking the knowledge to make an informed decision. That's part of the problem in our country - keep people uninformed, feed them sound bites which the msm can determine which candidates get more sound bites aired, on election day demand photo id's to keep some from voting as if voter fraud is what the big problem is (!) and then when we have a newly elected president all will sing kumbaya and praise democracy for once again working. Wake up America!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511317892

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