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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsis it just me or have others notice an increase in alerts?
Seems there have been a large number of alerts lately. Hide post or leave it. is this another action by trolls or is it just a sign of the times?
Takket
(21,577 posts)I am becoming Increasingly aggravated that my time is being wasted. In the last two days ive had three alerts in posts critical of Hillary. It is absurd. I don't know if it's trolls or just people that don't understand that someone being critical of your candidate is NOT a TOS violation.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Someone posted an article from the NYTimes yesterday. It tried to paint Hillary criticizers as duped Bernie supporters who were being fooled into hating Clinton by right-wing operatives.
Of course, that supposition is ridiculous. Detesting Clinton's warmongering, neocon tendencies, corporate corruption and general debauchery have been loathed by a good chunk of the Democratic party for nearly 15 years. Bernie supporters certainly don't need any help from Karl Rove on that front.
What struck me was a quote in the article. A Clinton operative said that the loud voices of Bernie supporters who didn't like Clinton affect their fundraising and also their election chances down the road.
There it is right there.
They're trying to purge Sanders supporters and silence them.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Of how nasty this is becoming made it to the gray lady?
pintobean
(18,101 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)That people completely separated by a continent who do not speak to each other are observing the same thing and reaching similar conclusions. You are correct, insert the laugh tract here
I can't wait, which they will not do, to blame you guys for the loss in Nov.
melman
(7,681 posts)You're saying the New York Times is copying your posts?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Not everybody is blind.
And from coffee cat, this is the exact same observation that they and I are seeing...
It will cost the dems the election and I will blame every clinton supporter, while of course they blame the usual suspects, for it.
And let me quality this, with the rest of my observation, the nasty environment created, which is now translating to the meat department of my supermarket, created by Clinton supporters as they try to silence the bernie folks, is what will cost them the election.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and for the record, I was not the only one speaking of that. Plenty of folks were doing that here at the time. Thanks for calling that out.
By the way, you can add the comentariat to MY GOD TRUMP is dangerous. I have been saying that since oh July. It is not my fault they are slow.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)a part-time job for me.
If these trends continue, soon I'll be full-time and eligible for benefits!
ribrepin
(1,726 posts)and for the most inane reasons. I think it's the alert trolls and really, really sensitive people. I almost never vote to hide.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Most are just silly alerts too
tblue37
(65,403 posts)Retrograde
(10,137 posts)So far only one today, but it's early. And they're all from gd:primaries - mostly by people who seem fonder of alerting than carrying on a discussion.
ribrepin
(1,726 posts)I'm glad about that. It's got so I roll my eyes every time I see the blue jury thingy. It's almost all Primaries forum.
KatyMan
(4,198 posts)I don't mind being on a jury, but jeez some of the alerts these days are getting ridiculous.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... but I have noticed what seems like a much greater trend toward hiding. It really has to be over the top for me to vote to hide. It's a discussion board, for crying out loud. Discuss it. Unless it's a personal attack on a fellow DUer or an overt and intentional effort to offend, I'm generally going to let it stand.
The first few years I was here, I was somewhat proud of the fact that I voted - almost always not to hide - with the jury's decision the vast majority of the time. I actually remember the few times I did vote to hide, and I was with the majority on those as well. And I seem to recall most decisions were 6-0 or 5-1 (back in the day), and 7-0 or 6-1 more recently. There were a couple of times the majority went against my vote - but those were always the close ones that I really had to think about, and I understood why others would hide.
Now - posts are hidden that make me say WTF? They are routinely 4-3. It's clearly more authoritarian in nature, and some of the comments by jurors are almost seething. Decisions seem to be much more ideologically driven.
It's a shame, I think. I genuinely respected the system for years. Now, not so much. Seems a lot of games are being played.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)because I think that personal, mean-spirited attacks should not be allowed.
However, the alert/jury system does not work if people are voting to hide, simply because they don't like the opinion. When that happens, it is an abuse of the system.
Furthermore, it reduces people to tattle tales. Alerts should happen when someone attacks someone; not when someone puts an opinion on a message board. It's ridiculous.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)the alert system has become a political weapon to intimidate, target, and silence DUers. In its use, it has become a tool of repression.
ribrepin
(1,726 posts)I sat on a jury because somebody was offended that someone said you shouldn't vote for Hilary just because she was woman.
Blasphemer
(3,261 posts)during the primaries. I've been on juries a lot recently but I have only hidden two posts - one because the alerter alerted on the wrong post and one post from a now departed poster who clearly thought they were on the Free Republic. I refuse, as a juror, to be become a tool of any particular faction.
longship
(40,416 posts)I always take context into consideration. Yup, that takes some effort, but if one takes DU jury service seriously one should make that effort.
Personal attacks are right out. You will get no sympathy from me if you do that. It is an automatic hide for me. I try to be polite, even in disagreement. If you cannot do the same, don't look for my support.
I get called occasionally and always participate. There are some instances where I opt out. They are rare. I take it as my DU duty.
Denzil_DC
(7,242 posts)What is different is that recently almost all of them are about posts in General Discussion: Primaries. Which I almost always back out of serving on.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Yes, I have, and it's getting silly.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Mainly because I don't post in GDP.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)the Hillary / Bernie fanboys and fangals have been over the top with the manufactured outrage
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)That post was full of overt, unambiguous, racism. The poster was later tombstoned.
I've been on countless juries and very seldom "hide" a post.
"If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen." Harry Truman