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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDonald Trump can, and will, if we help him, destroy GOP
Donald trump, if he is the nominee, permanently destroys or fractures the GOP.
Whatever you can do to help Trump become the GOP nominee, helps all of the human race.
Can you re-register somewhere and vote for him?
Whatever you can do.
This is huge, people.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)But I'm in California and it will be over before they let me into the voting booth.
randys1
(16,286 posts)to them if he is the nom.
It really would permanently crush their ability to do anything.
Very exciting times we are in.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Seems to fit.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Trump is dangerous....he could destroy more than the Republican Party.
randys1
(16,286 posts)not just giving all the money to the rich or killing Women and Gay's and POC for no reason other than that is who they are.
So ending their political power is the single most important thing a human being can do.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)My concern is that in the GE, if it is Trump-Hillary......it will get so nasty, that it will drive down vote turnout, and Trump could win.
JustAnotherGen
(31,819 posts)Alerter was under the impression you were advocating for Trump. I served on the jury.
I really hope it stays - as in no way shape or form are you advocating for Trump!
gordianot
(15,237 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)but that isnt why, i am sure it is a stalker of mine
dear god
i guess i really am done here, for good
JustAnotherGen
(31,819 posts)I think the person who alerted is concerned with the OP. I.E. the disrupt approach.
A hard liner against Trump - wouldn't want to cast a vote for him ever -not even to disrupt the primary.
I don't think this was a stalker -but someone who probaby hates the miserable maggot even more than I do.
randys1
(16,286 posts)But if the alert was sincere for that reason, then I admit that is a concern.
WAY better to express that than to try and censor me, which is kind of ironic when you think about it
JustAnotherGen
(31,819 posts)As many sociopathic tendencies as I have - I still have empathy to outweigh them.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Imagine life without that entity
UtahLib
(3,179 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Even if he won't win this time, there will be another Trump, and another and another - until one of them sticks. As long as the GOP sells fear and hatred, it will stoke the flames in those who are vulnerable to that type of message.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)but we do need to worry about him.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Cordy
(82 posts)There is a reason that the RNC has tied up so many governorship's, state & local government spots, and representatives in Congress. It is a ladder to the top for them.
I think it is because we don't get the word out to refute the lies and propaganda from the right wing. We need people on the street passing out pamphlets, news papers, radio, tv, phone calls & door to door. We are lacking communication.
I heard nothing locally disputing the rightwing propaganda about the IRS, Benghazi, and now Hillary emails. And I hear the right wing blasting away. I see lying lawyers like Levin bringing false lawsuits over and over to destroy Hillary's credibility. They have a well organized oiled machine eating us up.
IMO, we need to do the same kind of things. Bring lawsuits for defamation of character everytime the right espouses a lie. Why isn't the Hillary campaign doing this?
I think we can reverse the trend, we just have to work harder to do it.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)I think it is irresponsible to vote for Trump in the hopes that he could destroy the Republican party. I think he could do far more damage than that.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)The Republican party has become 4Chan.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)Clinical psychologist George Simon said that Trump is so classic that Im archiving video clips of him to use in workshops because theres no better example of his characteristics. He conducts lectures and seminars on manipulative behavior exhibited by narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths all related Anti Social Personality Disorders. Otherwise, I would have had to hire actors and write vignettes. Hes like a dream come true.
edited to add link:
http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/02/psychologist-explains-trump-is-literally-a-narcissistic-psychopath/
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Trump steps the game up several notches and is the logical progression.
2naSalit
(86,586 posts)the merger of W with Darthcheney in one individual. The stupid and the vile work together in one skull.
randys1
(16,286 posts)and alerted
silencing people like me who tell the truth is a full time job for some
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:42 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stupid ass alert.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter you screwed up - in no way shape or form is randys1 advocating for Trump. He is one of the STRONGEST allies to Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, GLBT, Women, etc. etc at DU. Are you CERTAIN you meant this? Your alert doesn't match with what he has written? I really hope he has not just been alert stalked into a time out by this.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see that post as a pro Trump position.. or maybe I am misinterpreting..
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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randys1
(16,286 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)I'm not a republican but if I wasn't registered as one, I'd have no say in elections in my deep deep red county.
I'm using that republican registration to vote for Trump.
Bucky
(54,003 posts)In the end, he'll unify the GOP--he needs them and Republicans, frankly, want to be tamed by an alpha male angry daddy figure. They'll be his quislings. He'll not have a viable challenge on his right and he'll do a brilliant job of the same trash-talk bullshit on Clinton that he's done on Jeb, Rubio, and Kasich.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Many of my friends are conservatives.
Only one of them is willing to vote for Trump.
The rest will never vote for a Democrat, but they are going to sit out the general if Trump is the nominee.
Bucky
(54,003 posts)He's already manipulating mainstream pols into endorsing him. Once the serious scare tactics about a Clinton Presidency starts up, you'll see a huge rallying behind the candidate at the Republican Convention.
Do they hate him now? Sure! That's because his pathway required divisiveness. Once he's going in the fall, his pathway involves seeming to be more mature. He's already giving hints that that's where he's going next. He'll trash Clinton on corporate donations and cronyism, he'll get away with his own Wall Street donors hiding behind his bravado, and he'll keep the party in line with his anti-PC shtick.
Trump is uninhibited by the need to be or seem sincere. He has the capacity to get rid of his high negatives with just enough people to move up in the polls. Clinton, barring a miracle, does not.
Trust me, you do NOT want Trump as our opponent this year.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Cruz is terrifying.
randys1
(16,286 posts)you may be right, I was hoping not, but you may be right.
Hell, the Democratic Party , as witnessed even here at DU, has some of them as well, maybe not as bad but with similar thoughts.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I do hope that Trump would lose convincingly in the general but I wouldn't take the risk of helping him get closer to the presidency.
Cordy
(82 posts)Why is the media throwing this idiot softball articles and reports? Where are the compiled list of all the stuff he is promising, the costs to provide it? Where is the ongoing lists of his lies and why aren't they being publicized? Trump is a bag of lies and deceptions. I could beat him in an election by telling bigger Whoppers than he does. In fact I would call my campaign the Whopper, and eat Whoppers daily, drag out the models to drip juice on, etc. I would have bigger walls, bigger tax cuts, bigger bigger, and the sad part is, the American people are so starved they would vote for me.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)a.) Trump does not need my help, he's got it.
b.) Bernie does, he has not got it yet.
stone space
(6,498 posts)The vote was 0-7, and I lost my alerting privileges for 24 hours for making the alert.
I see above that one of the jurors actually voted for Trump in the Florida Primary.
I view this as a DU jury fail.
DU needs to make rules against advocating voting for GOP candidates in Primaries going forward, to prevent future jury fails.
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Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter you screwed up - in no way shape or form is randys1 advocating for Trump. He is one of the STRONGEST allies to Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, GLBT, Women, etc. etc at DU. Are you CERTAIN you meant this? Your alert doesn't match with what he has written? I really hope he has not just been alert stalked into a time out by this.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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