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Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:35 PM Mar 2016

I have made my decision, for Republicans, I prefer Trump to Cruz.

Trump is out for himself, and i doubt he believes in anything but Trump.

Cruz is a holy warrior. I you think living in an Oligarchy is bad, you don't want to live in a Theocracy.
With one Supreme Court Justice waiting to be appointed by the next President, and the two most liberal members of the court being among the oldest, I do not want to see Roy Moore and his clones on the bench.

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I have made my decision, for Republicans, I prefer Trump to Cruz. (Original Post) Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 OP
I think I'd rather be hit by a bus than burn in a fire, too. (nt) w4rma Mar 2016 #1
Horrible but I hate to say it. Trump at least has some democratic leanings yeoman6987 Mar 2016 #8
I'm not sure that I've ever heard him say anything positive about voting rights and democracy. w4rma Mar 2016 #9
And I like that. 840high Mar 2016 #13
That's nothing to like about any candidate for any party. (nt) w4rma Mar 2016 #14
I feel the same way, although they're all horrendous. nt valerief Mar 2016 #2
I think horrendous is an understatement, but I agree. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #4
IMO, you made the better of two bad choices. You could just slide over ladjf Mar 2016 #3
I will vote for Sanders in the General, if he wins. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #5
Great! Cruz is very dangerous. He has a combination ladjf Mar 2016 #7
I use a different analogy... Wounded Bear Mar 2016 #6
Yes, if someone held a gun to my head and those were my choices... joeybee12 Mar 2016 #10
Yeah, Holy Warrior, my hairy ass. SC nomination waiting for the next Pres? WhiteHat Mar 2016 #11
+1000 FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #12
Ive always said brettdale Mar 2016 #15
For the sake of the world in general, both are as dangerous as each other! LeftishBrit Mar 2016 #16
"If either of them gets elected, it will convince me that there is no intelligent life on Earth, let pampango Mar 2016 #17
Because they control a majority of states, I would blame it on a fixed election. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #20
Like saying you prefer Mussolini to Hitler. yellowcanine Mar 2016 #18
No, I would rather they try to elect Mussolini than run the Spanish Inquisition. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #19
 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
9. I'm not sure that I've ever heard him say anything positive about voting rights and democracy.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:14 PM
Mar 2016

The only thing he's got going for him is his potential to kill the TPP.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
3. IMO, you made the better of two bad choices. You could just slide over
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:38 PM
Mar 2016

and give Bernie some support. In your mind, what would be the differences pro con between the two?

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
5. I will vote for Sanders in the General, if he wins.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:41 PM
Mar 2016

I would rather Republicans nominate Trump than Cruz.
I think either candidate will beat them both, but every election has an element of risk. I think Cruz is too big of a risk.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
7. Great! Cruz is very dangerous. He has a combination
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:44 PM
Mar 2016

of life experiences and philosophies that could wreck America if elected.

Wounded Bear

(58,653 posts)
6. I use a different analogy...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:44 PM
Mar 2016

I would say the difference between Trump and Cruz is like the difference between having your throat cut and your head chopped off.

No matter what happens on our side, I'm voting Dem in the general.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
10. Yes, if someone held a gun to my head and those were my choices...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:16 PM
Mar 2016

That's who I'd pick, and cry while doing it.

 

WhiteHat

(129 posts)
11. Yeah, Holy Warrior, my hairy ass. SC nomination waiting for the next Pres?
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

Ain't gonna happen.

Obama and the Dems will work the political wires with this message: "Do Your Job."

After that, they'll bring the issue to the SC itself. The court would obviously vote for the Republicans to "do their job." There's no precedent for anything else.

After that, the Dems will trot out all the past GOP presidents and any other surviving big shots to encourage Republicans to "Do Your Job." Bob Dole, Coleman Powell, even all the Bushes, for example.

After that, Republicans in Congress will find themselves in an election crisis.

After that, Obama could legally make a recess assignment.

There is NO WAY IN HELL that Obama won't push through a Supreme Court nominee.

brettdale

(12,381 posts)
15. Ive always said
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 05:22 AM
Mar 2016

Cruz is far far far more dangerous than Trump or any republican in history.

If he gets woman and gay rights will be back to that of the middle ages.



LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
16. For the sake of the world in general, both are as dangerous as each other!
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 05:36 AM
Mar 2016

In general I agree that unprincipled panderers are not quite as dangerous as ideologues; but once they sell their souls to the ideologues they become as dangerous.

From what one can gather: Cruz is a bigot, very crazy, and strongly believes in the right of the mighty to trample on the less mighty whether the rich over the poor, the majority groups over the minorities, the well-armed countries over the less well-armed, etc. Trump is unprincipled, very stupid, believes in the right of the rich to trample on the poor because it suits his selfish interests, and in other respects has sold his soul (for fame and power, not money which he has already) to bigots, who strongly believe in the right of the mighty to trample on the less mighty.

In terms of their policies, it will come to the same thing.

If either of them gets elected, it will convince me that there is no intelligent life on Earth, let alone anywhere else!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
17. "If either of them gets elected, it will convince me that there is no intelligent life on Earth, let
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:10 AM
Mar 2016

alone anywhere else!"

Extremely well said.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
20. Because they control a majority of states, I would blame it on a fixed election.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:14 PM
Mar 2016

As we learned in 2000, if you can control who counts the votes, that makes all the differences.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
19. No, I would rather they try to elect Mussolini than run the Spanish Inquisition.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:12 PM
Mar 2016

Trump only believes in Trump.
Cruz is a religious fanatic and dominionist.

In a fair election, I think Democrats will kick their ass. However, elections are not always fair. If I have to take the risk, I'd rather it be Trump.

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