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es35

(132 posts)
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:16 AM Mar 2016

Psychiatrists add a new mental disorder to DSM: Impositional Religiosity

Don't know how I missed this but psychiatry is finally realizing that religion is a major cause of mental illness (see below);
Eric

"Despite vigorous protests from Republican presidential candidates, the Vatican, Fox News, Westboro Baptist Church and preachers across the land, a new entry has been added to the authoritative Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). Social scientists term the new mental disorder, the 298th official DMS entry, Impositional Religiosity. It is seen in all parts of America, but is far more common in common in those states with Republican legislatures. It is characterized by passionate tendencies to evangelize for policies, laws and other rules that impose elements of faith-based beliefs, dogmas and creeds on secular societies. As a consequence, religious beliefs are inflicted on many who view such perspectives as unwelcome, irrational and even preposterous."

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http://thepoliticaljunkies.org/tpjmagazine/2015/7/8/dsm-shocker-impositional-religiosity-declared-a-mental-disorder-satire

FINALLY!!!!!
HOORAY FOR RATIONALITY!!!








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Psychiatrists add a new mental disorder to DSM: Impositional Religiosity (Original Post) es35 Mar 2016 OP
Yup. Satire is one rational response Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #1
"Moral pomposity". nt bemildred Mar 2016 #2
Yes!!! Finally we can point out to these people they have a psychiatric disorder and need Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #3
Enjoy your stay shenmue Mar 2016 #4
K & R.. their Bible tells them to "pray in the closet" mountain grammy Mar 2016 #5
And don't forget the pledge! Gore1FL Mar 2016 #7
Yeah, there's that too.. gonna be a pretty small rapture, I'm thinking. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #8
For all we know, it happened already. krispos42 Mar 2016 #25
correction: azureblue Mar 2016 #13
Don't forget "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." nt tblue37 Mar 2016 #18
And yet he didn't always "pray in the closet." Igel Mar 2016 #22
Welcome to DU! And if you can't say anything nice about organized religion... Raster Mar 2016 #6
This is BIG! Now sane society can begin to undo the mess being created by mythologies, Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #9
I thought WOW - LiberalElite Mar 2016 #15
Oh, Pshaw!.....got me.... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #17
I bit however yes there should be. gordianot Mar 2016 #10
Ha! :-D NurseJackie Mar 2016 #11
This is why the word gullible is not in the dictionary. Ptah Mar 2016 #12
Love it, but unfortunately it's satire. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2016 #14
Right up there with Igel Mar 2016 #23
In the New Yorker and Harper's there'll be saltpoint Mar 2016 #16
What a lovely turn of phrase /nt dickthegrouch Mar 2016 #20
dickthegrouch, I'm nothing if saltpoint Mar 2016 #29
There is indeed a correlation. Duppers Mar 2016 #26
Duppers, thank you for the saltpoint Mar 2016 #28
You're very welcome. Duppers Mar 2016 #30
Truth through satire. nt Zorra Mar 2016 #19
My crazy niece has this disorder noiretextatique Mar 2016 #21
Large element of truth in satire. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #24
Ha! If only! But I love the name: Impositional Religiosity. valerief Mar 2016 #27
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is that Bill Murray? what movie? Skittles Mar 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #34
I recently watched a documentary on Hunter Thompson Skittles Mar 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #36
hehehehehe Solly Mack Mar 2016 #33
too good! librechik Mar 2016 #37

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
3. Yes!!! Finally we can point out to these people they have a psychiatric disorder and need
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:43 AM
Mar 2016

professional help!!!

I get so sick of people pushing their views on me like they are so right because Gawd said so! My recent former neighbor was a nice guy, but he kept telling me how the end of times was almost upon us. He was so excited for the Rapture they quit their jobs of 25 years and moved back to TN to be closer to family when it came time to rise above heathens like myself!

America is NOT A CHRISTIAN nation! We have separation of Gawd and state for a very good reason. Want pray or in schools? Fine, let the Satanist 2nd grade teacher instruct the children in what she believes. They can pray to him! That usually shuts them up!

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
5. K & R.. their Bible tells them to "pray in the closet"
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:54 AM
Mar 2016

they can't follow their own advice.. bring on the rapture!

Gore1FL

(21,130 posts)
7. And don't forget the pledge!
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:10 AM
Mar 2016

Many Christians demand the right to use their God's name in vain when taking an oath that they are not supposed to take.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
8. Yeah, there's that too.. gonna be a pretty small rapture, I'm thinking.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:15 AM
Mar 2016

with so many "good Christians" breaking the rules and all.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
25. For all we know, it happened already.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:42 PM
Mar 2016

A dozen families across the world going "Hmph, i wonder where _______ went last night?"

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
13. correction:
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:54 AM
Mar 2016

Christ says to pray in the closet. There is a huge gap between what Christ said in the Bible, and what is said in the Old Testament and Paul, in the New. And note how these so called Christians manage to call themselves that, while ignoring everything that Christ tells his followers to do....

And one thing Christ said is to worry about your own self before telling others what to do (Mote in eye, plank on shoulder, judge not, etc.&quot

Igel

(35,300 posts)
22. And yet he didn't always "pray in the closet."
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:33 PM
Mar 2016

Why some people are so insistent in keeping others in the closet is beyond me.

People forget that the people who wrote 1900 years ago were people. When confronted with public displays of piety made for the purpose of public display and self-promotion, the response was, "hide yourself away when praying." It's the hardest thing for braggarts, humility.

Similarly, if you love things more than God, the injunction was to give away absolutely everything. Few of those insisting they're Xians and others aren't are willing to do this themselves. That makes them into nice hypocrites.

But notice the word "if." I know a lot of people who really don't understand that word. So there are a fair number of public prayers put in Jesus' mouth in the NT. But none made for the purpose of bringing glory and honor for the speaker. Similarly, Jesus' own response when the disciples objected to his "give away everything" line, saying no man could be saved if that was the minimum expectation, got the response that "with God all things are possible." Again, the purpose of that line wasn't to say things are evil and we should strive to be indigent and make our families live in penury, but to not make stuff more important than some other things.

Think of it as thesis, antithesis, and synthesis. We don't like the thesis, revel in the antithesis, and then stalwartly avoid the normal outcome, synthesis, because we like to use the antithesis as a self-serving club for imposing our sense of values and beliefs and ideology on others.


"Plank on shoulder"?

Raster

(20,998 posts)
6. Welcome to DU! And if you can't say anything nice about organized religion...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:01 AM
Mar 2016

...come on over and sit down by me!

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
9. This is BIG! Now sane society can begin to undo the mess being created by mythologies,
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:29 AM
Mar 2016

fantasies and delusions!

Igel

(35,300 posts)
23. Right up there with
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

imposing ideology.

I see little difference between the Inquisition, Hitler's efforts to root out subversion, Lenin's CheKa, or the parallel organizations under Mao, Stalin, or their successors. In this, the Patriot Act pales to ideological insignificance, because it's a tool and not an ideology. Tools like that often require "not doing something"; at worst, they're used to enforce behavior in a fairly specific, narrow range. But ideologies and their deist versions called "religions" require lock-step beliefs, whether in the latest edict that enunciate the correct politics and politics that we must all obey and spout, or how we reshape our culture and values. Like religions, ideologies can be lax or tight--lax ones allow variation, dissent. But in times of stress, they tense up rather nicely. Then you're with me or against me--whether that's Paul or Stalin or Hitler speaking. Or Bush or Obama, in far laxer times.

Orwell wrote about this, and didn't have in mind right-wing facists but those on the left that suppressed dissent, were fairly totalitarian, and refused to see that their ideological bedmates renowned for their purity were deeply syphilitic. What he wrote swings both ways, right and left, but confirmation bias always only notices when it swings away from us.

In many ways, the real battle isn't between left and right, but between extreme libertarianism and dogmatic authoritarianism, between liberty and despotism. Democracies can be despotic--just ask US slaves in 1810, or look at the philosophical underpinnings of the "dictatorship of the proletariat" or some of the rantings of current political figures.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
16. In the New Yorker and Harper's there'll be
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:11 AM
Mar 2016

articles once in a while referencing psychiatrists' case assessments in which people imbued with the impulse to proselytize are described as "religiously preoccupied."

Which seems like an awfully polite way to put it.

I wonder if religious proselytization is a form of narcissism, rooted in part in someone's feeling morally superior to others who have "not yet found the way" and that through "witnessing," they can drag the wretched sinner from the fires of hell blah blah blah.

Narcissistic because I hear "God prefers me to you because I follow His rules laid out in the // insert religious text here // .

In fact instructions to insert their religious text with biophysical specificity is what proselytizers hear if they ring my doorbell.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
29. dickthegrouch, I'm nothing if
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

not tangential, so forgive the diversion to your signature quotation.

I love it.

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