This is really happening, isn't it?

[RandySF]

Through all of 2015, I assumed Trump was such a joke that he would drop out by Summer. After that, I assumed primary voters would end their flirtation and choose a "serious" candidate from their party. Every day before New Hampshire, South Carolina, Super Tuesday, Super Saturday and Michigan, I waiting for him to implode and voters to suddenly rush to someone else. Even now, pay of me thinks where no way he's going to win Florida. But he's really going to do it, isn't he? Is this how people felt when Ronald Reagan kept winning? I still think something will happen between now and Cleveland, but I don't know how they pull it off without blood on the floor.

He'll implode eventually, right?

[elleng]

1. I've thought something would implode,

preferrably tramp. May or may not happen.

[villager]

3. Or, you know, the country itself will implode.

Some of us have been more or less expecting that -- given rightwing overreach and Democratic acquiescence -- probably since the Reagan era...

[elleng]

8. Lots will likely happen,

has been cooking for a number of years.

SERIOUS stuff. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027660330

[Hortensis]

21. Probably not. Extremists on right and left have not united.

They still could, but separate they are minority forces, powerful because of their passion, dangerous because of their lack of compassion for outsiders and disdain for limits, but still stoppable.

And compared to inter-war Germany, the problems we're unhappy about are minor. Wages are very low for many, but our economy's otherwise (yes, I know, big otherwise) doing well under Obama. The middle classes have jobs, many of which pay well, and most people have far too much to protect to be sympathetic to destabilizing their country.

And as much as some anxious souls might worry about terrorism, it's not as real a worry as Stalin's army a week's tank drive across the plains of eastern Europe was. Most Germans still had personal memories of war devastating their lives.

Oh, and the Jews were something like 1% of the population. Muslims might seem to make similarly good victims at very low numbers, but we are a very diverse nation, ethnically, racially, religiously, and culturally. In addition to whites of good heart, our 13% black and 17-26% Hispanic, plus other minority groups, are active and increasingly powerful and provide additional bulwark against that kind of societal breakdown.

[Protalker]

33. Les Miz vs The Brownshirts

When I read many Bernie supporter comments on here saying they can't vote for Clinton. When the talk is not about getting a Democratic Congress but revolution I think it is a short step to man the barricades. When I see the Nazi like pledge to Drumph I think thuggery. It's going to be a longer hot summer.

[applegrove]

2. Donald's ceiling seems to be a little over 40% of the GOP. In

the GE that translates into under 30% of the whole electorate would be hardcover Trump supporters. For sure some establishment types would give up and vote for him. In fact maybe this is the very weird situation where the Republican nominee runs to the left during the Primaries and to the right in the GE. Anyhow. His dislikes are very high. I hope he truly has hit the ceiling.

[djean111]

4. The trouble is - the rest of the lineup is horrible and uninspiring.

Each, IMO, is a monster in their own special way. And it seems to me like some sort of behind-the-scenes tinkering has gone awry.

[lunasun]

27. So true GOTV!! Scary monster party and zombie followers cant take down our great country

[Lil Missy]

5. he has become even more dangerous than I ever thought he would be.

He is deliberately stirring up the radicals and inciting riots. He won't stop until somebody dies I fear

[Whiskeytide]

24. I've seen little to indicate...

... that even a death incited by his rhetoric would give him much pause. Truly sad.

[lunasun]

28. didnt he say he could kill someone and he would be even more popular or something to that effect

[HuckleB]

6. We live in a world where fear mongering matters more than reality.

Last edited Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:51 AM - Edit history (2)

It's very sad.

When 145 DUers "like" a post promoting a fear mongering article debunked two years ago, we can't be too surprised by this crap. It sucks. It all sucks.

[scubasteve76]

7. not all hope is lost

I read a lot of people thinking this is going to end in violence. Some people even want it. It's not necessary. There's most likely gonna be a brokered convention, and the establishment will try to take Donald out.

[Stuart G]

9. I believe you are correct..

The establishment doesn't want him..It will go with someone else. But we cannot be sure of anything.

[Firebrand Gary]

10. Brokered convention for sure!

If Trump gets anywhere near Kasich in Ohio, it's for sure a done deal. The thing is, Trump's supporters will absolutely not settle for any other position other than the top of the ticket.

The fix is in however, that convention is going to be engineered for Donald to lose. It's going to be bloody for sure!

[Hekate]

13. I sure as hell hope so

I want to see Trump's redcaps rioting on the convention floor for the whole nation to see. I want the GOP to splinter so badly in 2016 that they won't be able to reconstitute themselves for decades.

[Firebrand Gary]

14. From your lips to gods ears my friend.

The GOP deserves everything they have coming to them. Our country needs them to break this fever and to do so, it's going to take years. I'm with you, may they splinter and turn to ash.

[PWPippin]

29. Humpty Trumpty

To paraphrase:

Humpty Trumpty sat on a wall.
Humpty Trumpty took a great fall.
All the king's horses
And all the king's men
Couldn't put Trumpty together again.

May this be the case for Humpty Trumpty and the the GOP which created him.

[scubasteve76]

39. whats scary for Republicans

The convention nominates someone other than the Donald, he goes 3rd party, takes his voters with him, and the democratic nominee, whoever it shall be..... wins.

[Hekate]

11. No comparison at all with Reagan. Much as I disliked him, he had been gov of a major state....

....not a failed businessman. RR had a well-articulated conservative agenda, not a wharglebargle screed of raw racism and nativism. RR was an actual politician with experience in actual governing. I didn't have to like it, but there it was.

I didn't watch Reagan's rise with the same kind of horror I feel for Trump. I have not seen anything like this on the national stage since Gov George Wallace made a run for the White House in 1968, and he never ever got this far.

Gods help us all.

[Major Hogwash]

12. Cruz just won in Idaho and Wyoming.

So, the Trump will be stopped.

[CrispyQ]

32. Oh shit. Cruz scares me more than Trump.

I have two friends who think he'll drop out at the convention. I don't agree, but that would sure be fun to watch.

[Skittles]

15. many DUers have not noticed

it seems that bashing Hillary was more important

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

16. It's scary some of the time isn't it ?

This might help ,the GOP will eventually implode. That is what is going down. And that is what Trump saw coming years ago.Trump believes the republican party is his for the taking and he's doing a bang up job of leading it to it's final end. So you got implosion right but it's the republican party that is just right for implosion. And it's been a long time coming. As far as something happening between now and Cleveland, circumstances and events that come into happening can change the outcome at the polls with little to no for-warning. I don't think Trump can stand to that which he has absolutely no control over. And circumstances and events on the world stage is exactly what can or will be his ,oh shall I say down fall. This is not to say he will not get the republican nomination, I just don't see Trump in the winner take all circle ! And that's the deal !

[quaker bill]

17. no, he is the nominee

He will pretty much run the table tomorrow. The question then becomes what the monied business conservatives do? Do they run a 3rd party alternative?

[Quackers]

18. I thought that Kasich would have done better by now and Trump would've quit.

Crazy times we live in.

[GreenEyedLefty]

19. It is.

But there are no "serious" candidates on the R side. Even if the convention is brokered, who would stand as the nominee?

On edit: Cruz is a million times worse and more dangerous than Trump; people need to be careful of what they wish for. He's a lunatic.

[djean111]

22. I don't think enough people get that - Cruz is frightening. He is monstrous.

IMO he is the most chillingly intelligent of the whole disgusting bunch.

Kasich is also pretty scary - he looks so reasonable and sane, right? The safety nets will be swept away in the name of "balancing the budget". There is not enough decency contained in that lineup to make one decent candidate. That's one of the reasons, IMO, that Trump is doing so well. The day of the corporate party-groomed candidate is starting to be gone, methinks.

[kath]

35. Cruz is WAY worse, but too few people here realize that. Who used to post here about Dominionism/

/Christian Reconstructionism? Someone used to post some very informative pieces about it.

That is some very, very scary shit, and it is what Cruz is all about.

[MowCowWhoHow III]

20. Jarring but funny Taiwanese viewpoint

[LannyDeVaney]

23. I falsely assumed it would be a two-man race by this point ...

and he would lose the nomination to whoever remained once the anti-Trump votes consolidated.

At this point, I want him to get the nomination because Democrats will rock in November all over the country.

[Bluenorthwest]

25. You support Hillary but you bash AIDS Hero Ronald Reagan?

Here's what I think about that. I think it means that for all the affected disgust at Trump, when the man eventually dies Democratic leadership will praise him as a friend to the Muslims, the instigator of racial harmony in the US. Like the Reagans bravely got us to start talking about AIDS, Donald Trump will be lauded as the man who got us to face up to our bigotries. 'It is a funeral, people say nice things at a funeral'.

So really, I don't even believe you have any problems with Trump or with Reagan. It's something you say to sound liberal. In reality, you can't wait to see him in what you think of as Dutch's office.

'Reagan Democrats' they called themselves. Keep waiting for their implosion and I think it has arrived as a ghost dressed in Adlolfo.

[Agnosticsherbet]

26. To paraphrase Twain "The prediction of Trumps implosion are greatly exagerated."

Republicans are angry at their "party elite" and consider Trump "an honest broker." He is what Republicans have sold as the ideal candidate, a strong man who will protect them from all the hated grops of minorities and make American Great Again.

Don not bet on his implosion.

[ellenrr]

30. I think the analogy is more to hitler than reagan.

this article Juan Cole describes similarities and differences to now trump and then germany--
obviously there are great differences, but the similarities are chilling:::

http://www.juancole.com/2016/03/will-the-militias-gun-nuts-volunteer-as-donald-trumps-storm-troopers.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Hmm no

I have taken him very seriously from the beginning. He could win the whole enchilada

[randome]

37. He will win the nomination. Not the election.

And I don't base that on what I want to occur. The forces aligned against him include the GOP itself. Without leadership or direction, the GOP is simply imploding before our eyes. It is something to celebrate.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. I will not discount that

at all

You may, I am not going to breath a sign of relief until that is settled and only for ten minutes. He will not be the first strong man to try to become dictator. Unless the structures of fascism already in place are dismantled, every election will be more and more critical.

[hfojvt]

34. no, Reagan was the huge front runner in 1980

in both elections.

Reagan almost won the Republican nomination in 1976.

With Rubio dropping out, it now seems more likely that Trump will get over 50% before the convention.

When that happens I think a lot of the anti-Trump Republicans will get with the program and remember that they hate Hillary even more.