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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't understand modern Republicans
I've listened to RW voters on facebook, on radio, and at work for this election cycle and I frankly don't understand them at all.
1) GOP voters believe congress has gone liberal
Any act of governance is now considered a liberal act: Confirming court picks, passing budgets, disaster relief, infrastructure spending, raising the debt ceiling...apparently the only thing the GOP congress can do to prove it is conservative is shut down the government and rename post offices until Obama magically does everything they want. Here's the thing, no liberal thinks the GOP congress is acting liberal (odd isn't it). More to the point no study has shown them to be liberal or even trending liberal. If you think the current congress is acting like a bunch of liberals then you are divorced from reality.
2) GOP voters believe established conservatives don't do what they say they will
Here's the truth, the things Republicans do in office are typically the things they say they will do. Mitch McConnell ran on working hard to cut the taxes on medical devices that was part of the ACA. It was his top priority. Once the new term started, Mitch fast tracked that bill. I know what GOP voters are thinking, I don't care about that issue at all. Well, its not the GOP congress critters fault you the GOP voter are ill informed about your parties top issues now is it.
3) GOP voters see themselves as adults but act as children.
GOP voters live in opposite world. They constantly claim to be the grim adults and liberals to be the childlike fantasy voters. Yet, they believe Obama has gotten every liberal thing he wanted and GOP in congress have not been successful at blocking his agenda. I guess that's why Gitmo got closed. GOP voters fear (absolutely fear) Islam and are haunted at night that America might become an Islamic theocracy, yet they constantly support the Christian theocracy movement as if theocracies in general might just be okay. They think Hillary is the biggest liar ever to run for president so they're voting for Trump...a man that essentially doesn't tell the truth ever even about telling the truth. They think Republicans are good at economics. When have they ever shown this goodness at it, I don't know. When in office they run up horrible debts, support odd fantasies like eliminating the FED or the IRS. Their refusal to raise taxes for years and their wild spending programs on defense not social programs are the reason for the current budget debt. Their debates have evolved into penis size contests because there is essentially nothing to discus. They have no policies that actually work. Most ideas are so bad they don't want to even talk about them because the policy literally is as deep as one sheet of loose leaf paper.
4) GOP voters claim to be mad at hell.
The general talking point idea is that the likely GOP voters are the people economics has left behind. They will vote for Trump, a man that claims to be mad at hell about the Obama presidency just like them, but honestly given the stock market returns while Obama has been in office Trump must have made more money than 99% of his voters (perhaps put together) during the Obama years. I think about that every time I see him on stage. You want to see someone that did well under Obama, he's talking on stage. If he didn't then he's worse at economics then even I imagine. You want to see a guy that uses outsourced labor, tax loopholes, capital gains...it is the guy you're voting for. That's the guy that lobbies for the laws that make you mad. You trust him to fix it so you do well too. If you vote for people that create the laws that make you mad then perhaps the fault is in you the GOP voter.
I just don't get the modern GOP voter. I listen to them and they have nothing to say. They're mostly racists, that I get, but beyond that there is no there, there.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)They are the Dixiecrats and the party of big business. The DLC grabbed some of the rich business people who were not too racist and thus we have the Democratic party of today. The Democratic party of today would still like to do a lot of Trumans and FDRs stuff as long as it doesn't cut into their income.
So if the Republicans get rid of their racists, it will be impossible to tell the R's from the D's. They both think war is good for business, they both believe in trickle down (still). Well the list is too long.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)I just don't understand the bizarre disconnect from reality that they have, that your points highlight.
I gave up a LONG time ago thinking that reality and rationale discussion make a difference.
They believe what they want to believe and have devolved to the point where the rationalizations for it don't even have to make the first bit of sense.
This has been building my entire adult life, three decades now, starting in the 90s when they tried to put a psuedo intellectual structure to justify everything, but once they elected an idiot and had 9-11 fall into their laps they dropped trying to put someone kine of reasoning to it and just started bullying and threatening (you hate america if you don's go along with whatever stupid ass thing we want) and hit a new low in the dehumanizing of BHO, which has amped up the dehumanizing of the evil liberal boogyman.
They now are at a point where they are just flat angry and are lashing out like 5 year olds.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)1) GOP voters believe Congress has gone liberal
2) If you think the current congress is acting like a bunch of liberals then you are divorced from reality.
Ergo: GOP voters are divorced from reality. Therefore they are impossible to understand.
You are welcome.
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)They claimed that Nixon,Bush 41,Bush 43, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito were liberals
Wounded Bear
(58,653 posts)I know we have a lot of religious people here on DU, and there is a growing Christian Liberal movement propounding to actually try to follow Christ's teachings and I don't mean to offend them, but....
It takes an acceptance of paradox of biblical proportions to actually follow and vote for Republicans IMNSHO. I mean, it takes devotion of an otherworldly strength to crawl out your be-slimed storm cellar to view your ruined neighborhood after some natural disaster, and declare how much God loves you. And that's what Repub policies basically are, a man-made disaster perpetrated on the American public in the interest of reaping more profit at the top.
Now, you see the weirdness of evangelicals voting for Trump. I mean He's the embodiment of hedonism on steroids and he gets the evangelical Christian vote?
Best to not bother trying to 'understand' them. They've gone off the deep end. It seems to be a blend of Stockholm Syndrome and authoritarian desire for a 'strong' leader. Policy wonks need not apply, they want their own version of Putin.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Religion elevates beliefs based on no facts and no evidence. It lionizes the magical, the supernatural, and the mythological. It is by definition anti-science by insisting that there is another realm -- a realm where the laws of nature and science and logic don't apply. It requires one to turn off rational thinking processes and embrace "faith" -- which, as Twain pointed out, is believing what you know ain't so. If you can be persuaded that an all-powerful Invisible Sky Creature presides over the universe and focuses its attention in particular on the last 2,000 years of of the doings of one recent species of ape on one little planet amongst 100 billion+ galaxies in a 14-billion-year-old universe, you can and will believe anything. People who want to feel that they are special and chosen life forms in the universe also are more apt to fall for the "USA is #1 and can do anything it damn well pleases!" bullcrap the Republicans push.
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)Hence, the constant criticism and whining from Trump and his cronies Teddy and John boy