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sarisataka

(18,638 posts)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:33 PM Mar 2016

9 face murder charges in recorded after-school brawl in Georgia

9 face murder charges in recorded after-school brawl in Georgia

It started out as a fistfight. Two girls -- emboldened by bystanders alternately yelling out support or derision -- went toe-to-toe in the residential street before they tumbled to the ground.

It only got uglier from there.

A two-minute cell phone video shot by a witness last week in Hephzibah, Georgia, captures the chaos as others join the fray, some wielding bats or pipes, others their fists. The driver of a black car targets two young men, narrowly misses them, and backs up on the subdivision lawn, striking another vehicle.

In the end, an 18-year-old boy was mortally wounded.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/25/us/georgia-fatal-brawl-arrests/index.html

So sad and senseless
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9 face murder charges in recorded after-school brawl in Georgia (Original Post) sarisataka Mar 2016 OP
Very senseless. romanic Mar 2016 #1
What,specifically,do you suggest that "we" do? virgogal Mar 2016 #3
Raise our kids better. romanic Mar 2016 #7
Requires parents Chuuku Davis Mar 2016 #9
Ohhhh, there was parental participation alright... Heeeeers Johnny Mar 2016 #10
Full video of the fight. GRAPHIC Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #2
Well... linuxman Mar 2016 #4
It's a challenge... TipTok Mar 2016 #5
It goes back and forth. Igel Mar 2016 #6
I don't understand why 9 are facing murder charges 30Draw Mar 2016 #8
Driver? He isn't the one who stabbed the victim. LisaL Mar 2016 #11

romanic

(2,841 posts)
7. Raise our kids better.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:19 PM
Mar 2016

Teach them not to solve everything with violence or glorifly violence and to provide a stable home with strong values and an importance on education.

Heeeeers Johnny

(423 posts)
10. Ohhhh, there was parental participation alright...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:18 AM
Mar 2016


Jacobs told CNN that six current Glenn Hills High School students have been charged: Quiasha Henley....
The other three charged, according to WJBF, are Quiauna Henley, 35...


 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
4. Well...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016

When your parents drive you to meet up with another kid for the express purpose of fighting them, I'm not so sure parental involvement would have helped.

Read an article on it yesterday. Just watched the video. Holy fuck. What is wrong with those people? Honestly, how does a highschool fight over a young man end with baseball bat fights and vehicular murder?



Also, isn't referring to a black male who is a legal adult as a "boy" somewhat...racist?

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
5. It's a challenge...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

Some folks want to go with the whole 'brain isn't developed until 25' bit and mitigate that way.

Which brings them into conflict with the point you made.

Either way, those children were raised to be delinquents and the end result should surprise absolutely no one.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
6. It goes back and forth.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:54 PM
Mar 2016

We are wanted to feel sympathy for him and say he's a victim.

That means we downplay his maturity and legal status and make him "boy."

If he were 16 and we wanted to play up his maturity and respect owed, he'd be a (young) "man". It's tough to call a 13 or 14 year old Af-Am male "boy." Because it's racist. Unless your skin color makes you trustworthy, then it's not. The sociolinguistics are tormented and tortured, all the more so because different communities have shifting standards.

We do the same thing with girls. If an 18-year-old girl is victimized, she's a girl. if she's 14 and faced with making the decision over health or abortion, she's a (young) "woman." What's clear with "girl" is that it's not a race thing. So for "boy" we must cite two variables when only one will account for all the data in most situations. There's a reason many dislike Occam's razor so. In this case, the "secondary" variable accounts for all the data and the primary variable is pitched in for rhetoric and outrage.

In the '90s I lived in Los Angeles. I'd been conditioned for a few years to only refer to Native Americans as Native Americans. Suddenly there was the "Indian Gaming Initiative" (I think the word was "gaming", not "gambling&quot . Ads appeared on the tv and radio talking about Indians, with tribal spokesfolk using the word. Indians are touchy feely and we're more sympathetic to Indians; Native Americans are proud and independent.

It's PR, pure Madison Avenue. Or as Lakoff would put it, "framing." As Lenin would put it, agitprop. As I put it, "linguistic manipulation."

 

30Draw

(46 posts)
8. I don't understand why 9 are facing murder charges
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:02 AM
Mar 2016

It seems the driver of the vehicle could face murder charges... but 9 people? We need to get these young men and women some help and education, not incarceration.

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