Why is there no effort to stop Boko Haram? They are worst than ISIS, as both of them are some

[mfcorey1]

of the most destructive of human life in the world.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/01/children_burned_alive_in_niger.html

Dated article but still so relevant.

DALORI, Nigeria — A survivor hidden in a tree says he watched Boko Haram extremists firebomb huts and heard the screams of children burning to death, among 86 people officials say died in the latest attack by Nigeria's homegrown Islamic extremists.

Scores of charred corpses and bodies with bullet wounds littered the streets from Saturday night's attack on Dalori village and two nearby camps housing 25,000 refugees, according to survivors and soldiers at the scene just 3 miles from Maiduguri, the birthplace of Boko Haram and the biggest city in Nigeria's northeast.

The shooting, burning and explosions from three suicide bombers continued for nearly four hours in the unprotected area, survivor Alamin Bakura said, weeping on a telephone call to The Associated Press. He said several of his family members were killed or wounded.

The violence continued as three female suicide bombers blew up among people who managed to flee to neighboring Gamori village, killing many people, according to a soldier at the scene who insisted on anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to journalists.

[polly7]

1. Taking out Qaddafi did a lot of wonderful things.

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These 'people' are the most disgusting creatures on earth. Reading of their atrocities is almost even too hard to do anymore.

[jeff47]

2. Not enough oil nearby. (nt)

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

4. ⇑ this

[EX500rider]

5. Say what?

Nigeria is Africa’s biggest oil producer and the 13th largest producer of oil in the world with daily production reaching about 2.4 million barrels.

The reason Boko Haram is not attacked on the scale of ISIL is they contain the attacks to Nigeria and it's border areas and are in no danger of taking over a country.

[jeff47]

6. Hence "not enough oil" instead of "no oil". (nt)

[EX500rider]

8. Certainly more oil production then in Syria...

Or maybe not everything is about oil?

[jeff47]

11. Hence "nearby".

It's the large quantity of oil over the entire area that keeps us involved in the Middle East.

[Nevernose]

24. Small correction:

Boko Haram has, just in the last month, sent suicide bombers to Nigeria, Mali, Ivory Coast, and Burkina Fasa; the French military is currently involved in keeping them out of Mali (or were the last time I checked).

They've effectively destabilized the whole region. The problem is the unspoken assumption that -- racism aside -- Africa is totally fucked up, and will be until the Africans themselves fix it.

It wasn't always fucked up, though. Slave traders followed by European colonialists followed by multinational corporate colonialists are what fucked up Africa. I literally get tears of anger when I think of what our civilization has done to that entire continent.

[EX500rider]

25. I'd say tribalism is the main factor behind Africa's problems.

A common problem in failed states is a large number of ethnic groups. This is a common curse throughout Africa, which is why the majority of the worst failed states are there. Europe, and much of Asia, have managed to get past tribalism, although that has not always resulted in a civil society. Tribalism has kept most African and many Arab nations from making much economic progress.

[Orrex]

3. We'll see a potent military response

As soon as they start attacking white people en masse or when they inconvenience an oil-rich nation.

[Rex]

7. It's so sad that you speak the truth.

We have to waste 2.6 billion on a new attack submarine that will never be used or leave dock again.

[EX500rider]

9. Soon as they fix they problems in the welds the Virginia Class SSN will definitely sail.

The LA Class subs were all built between '72 & '96, most are getting over the hill.

[Rex]

12. Why do we need new subs? Who is the enemy we face that has an armada against us?

Russia? Their shit is even more decrepit. China's ONE air craft carrier...Iran's diesel sub? throwing away trillions on atomic sub fleets in 2016 is the height of waste in America.

[Orrex]

13. ISIS has a whole fleet of submarines

True fact!

[Glassunion]

16. China has a decent navy

Their submarine forces alone, have both nuclear ballistic launch platforms and cruise missile capabilities.

Since 2000 they have commissioned:
24 - Amphibious Warships
16 - Destroyers (6 more coming in the next two years)
30 - Frigates
25 - corvettes (1 more undergoing sea trials right now)
3 - Missile boats
3 - counter-mine ships
9 - submarines
1 - Aircraft Carrier

This does not count older ships that they have still have in active service.

[Rex]

17. That is like one carrier fleet, okay maybe a really large one.

Seriously, we waste money on too much military hardware...only for it to bake out in the sun as decommissioned garbage. Just too much waste imo.

[EX500rider]

20. China's navy is growing rapidly.

China:
1 Aircraft carrier
4 Amphibious transport docks (LPD)
1 Mobile Landing Platform
32 Landing ship tanks (LST)
31 Landing ship medium (LSM)
8 Attack submarines (SSN)
55 Attack submarines (SSK)
5 Ballistic missile submarines (SSBN)
1 Experimental submarine
26 Destroyers
47 Frigates
25 Corvettes
109 Missile boats
94 Submarine chasers
17 Gunboats
29 Mine countermeasures vessels
11 Replenishment oilers
232 Auxiliaries (various)

Russia:
1 Aircraft carrier
1 Battlecruiser
3 Cruisers
15 Destroyers
5 Frigates
81 Corvettes
19 Landing ship tanks (LST)
19 Landing craft
9 Special-purpose ships
18 Patrol boats
45 Mine countermeasures vessels
13 Ballistic missile submarines (SSBN)
7 Cruise missile submarines (SSGN)
18 Attack submarines (SSN)
21 Attack submarines (SSK)
2 Special-purpose submarine

[PersonNumber503602]

23. Why does the US need a navy then? Can't China and Russia protect the US?

Seems like a lot of redundancy.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

26. They need to find some way to spend all the money they make off of

aligning with people like Donald Trump, manufacturing and selling garbage to Americans and others.

[Rex]

30. So two combined strike groups, compared to our what...10 or 11 strike groups?

When they start spending money 10 times over on their military, I will start to worry.

[Bradical79]

10. Circumstances

In Syria we inserted ourselves into a rebellion prior to ISIS becoming what they are AND we were still operating in Iraq. Also, there's the factor of Russian influence, and the direct impact on our NATO allies. Basically, ISIS popped up out of our own military adventures while we were still engaged in the nations they operate in. ISIS being a bunch of genocidal maniacs is not a primary reason we're fighting them.

With Boko Haram, my understanding is that we don't trust the Nigerian government enough to give them direct help in their fight, but we do give aid and support the African Union force.

[hfojvt]

14. Bokonon?

He's not in MY granfalloon.

See the cat? See the cradle?

Busy, busy, busy, backson.

Tiger got to hunt
bird got to fly
man got to sit and wonder
why, why, why?

Tiger got to eat
bird got to land
man got to tell himself
that he understand

[apnu]

15. The short answer? Nobody gives a fuck about Africa.

And that's a damn shame. Africa's problems are huge, generational, and complicated. Nothing is easy or simple in Africa. And all that's made worse by nobody in the world giving a fuck about Africa.

Until that changes, Africa will suffer in fire and rape.

[gratuitous]

18. Wrong hemisphere

And the folks they're killing don't belong to a large enough denomination of Christians, so an insignificant number of Americans recognize the victims as their human and spiritual relatives. It's also compounded by the fact that those Americans who do recognize Boko Haram's victims as human beings aren't given to redemptive violence, so they're not calling for American violence to be used to drive out Boko Haram's violence.

[Maedhros]

28. It's not as if our military is not crawling all over Africa.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/09/us-military-bases-africa

They're involved in Algeria and Angola, Benin and Botswana, Burkina Faso and Burundi, Cameroon and the Cape Verde Islands. And that's just the ABCs of the situation. Skip to the end of the alphabet and the story remains the same: Senegal and the Seychelles, Togo and Tunisia, Uganda and Zambia. From north to south, east to west, the Horn of Africa to the Sahel, the heart of the continent to the islands off its coasts, the US military is at work. Base construction, security cooperation engagements, training exercises, advisory deployments, special operations missions, and a growing logistics network, all undeniable evidence of expansion—except at US Africa Command.

It's just that we apparently are focusing our attention on other things than Boko Haram.

[Xolodno]

19. Boko knows enough that attacking...

...oil production attracts world attention to them. As long as they don't mess with that, they can get away with what they want. Because, well, the corrupt people involved don't care who they have to pay-off to rob the country of its resources. And those being paid off, want to live in luxury and don't care about the well being of its citizens.

Hell, Syria was being ignored for awhile...until ISIL moved into Iraq and hit the oil fields.

[chowder66]

21. There is an effort

I'm posting this since I looked into this a few months ago and saw that there were efforts to combat Boko Haram.
The Nigerian Gov't discontinued training a Nigerian battalion by the U.S. and they have changed their mind recently.
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More at link below;

On 24 September 2015 the White House announced a military aid package including training of up to $45 million for Benin, Cameroon, Chad, Niger and Nigeria.[280] On 14 October the White House released a statement, in accordance with the War Powers Resolution, announcing the deployment of 300 troops to Cameroon to conduct airborne ISR: "These forces are equipped with weapons for the purpose of providing their own force protection and security, and they will remain in Cameroon until their support is no longer needed."[281]

African Coalition force[edit]
After a series of meetings over many months,[5][6][7] Cameroon's foreign minister announced on 30 November 2014 that a coalition force to fight terrorism, including Boko Haram, would soon be operational. The force would include 3,500 soldiers from Benin, Chad, Cameroon, Niger and Nigeria.[282][283] Discussions between the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) about a broader based military force have been scheduled.[when?][284]

French and British assistance[edit]
France and the UK, in coordination with the United States, have sent trainers, and material assistance to Nigeria to assist in the fight against Boko Haram.[285] France planned to use 3,000 troops in the region for counter-terrorism operations. Israel and Canada also pledged support.[286]

Chinese assistance[edit]
In May 2014, China offered Nigeria assistance that included satellite data, and possibly military equipment.[285]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram#International_responses

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More at link below;

Two weeks ago, Gen. David M. Rodriguez, the head of the Pentagon’s Africa Command, hosted Nigeria’s chief of defense staff, Gen. Abayomi Gabriel Olonisakin, at the American headquarters in Stuttgart, Germany. “To contain Boko Haram, working together is a priority,” General Rodriguez told his visitor.

About 250 American service members have deployed to a military base in Garoua, Cameroon, where United States surveillance drones flying over northeastern Nigeria are sending imagery to African troops. Drone photos recently helped the Nigerian Army avoid a major Boko Haram ambush, according to a senior American intelligence officer.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/world/africa/us-plans-to-help-nigeria-in-war-on-boko-haram-terrorists.html?_r=0

[Blue_Tires]

22. Chad, Cameroon, and Nigeria are "no effort?"

Ironically, there seems to be a lot more progress in the fight against BH now that Goodluck Jonathan is out

[Turbineguy]

27. The Nigerian government is incredibly corrupt

and the justice system is completely dysfunctional. The perfect climate for Boko Haram.

[Ex Lurker]

29. My childhood friend the SF medic would beg to differ.

He's made two deployments to that part of the world in as many years. There's lots going on. You don't hear about it because European five star hotels are more appealing to reporters than is the African Bush. The guys doing the deeds are just fine with that, because they'd rather not have anyone looking over their shoulder.

[oberliner]

31. There is a major effort to stop Boko Haram

Obasanjo hails Buhari on Boko Haram war

Former president Olusegun Obasanjo on Monday commended President Muhammadu Buhari on his efforts to end the Boko Haram insurgency in the North East region.

Obasanjo lauded Buahri’s efforts during a visit to Borno State Governor, Kashim Shettima at the Government House, Maiduguri.

“I know that he (Buhari) is very, very concerned about the insurgency. He has gotten it right that first of all there must be military ascendency over the insurgents,” he said.

Obasanjo expressed optimism that the insurgency would be over soon going by the successes recorded by the military in recent time.

http://www.punchng.com/obasanjo-hails-buhari-on-boko-haram-war/

U.S. GIVES NIGERIA 24 ARMORED VEHICLES TO FIGHT BOKO HARAM

The U.S. is donating 24 armored vehicles to the Nigerian military for its fight against Boko Haram, AP reports.

The U.S. consulate in Lagos announced on Thursday that it was donating the mine-resistant, ambush-protected (MRAP) vehicles, worth a total of $11 million.

Boko Haram has continued carrying out sporadic attacks in northeast Nigeria, despite claims by President Muhammadu Buhari that the Nigerian military had “technically” defeated the insurgents. AP reported that 30 people were killed between Monday and Wednesday in Borno state, where the group retains a presence and carried out several deadly suicide bombings in December 2015.

http://www.newsweek.com/us-gives-nigeria-24-armored-vehicles-fight-boko-haram-413124

The US has also deployed troops to Cameroon as well as boosting military aid to Nigeria.