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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:32 AM Apr 2016

Boxed out: man evicted after $400 rented box deemed illegal

Source: The Guardian

Boxed out: man evicted after $400 rented box deemed illegal

Peter Berkowitz, whose story of living in a wooden box amid
San Francisco housing crisis went viral, forced out after city
inspectors ruled it a fire hazard


Sam Levin in San Francisco
Wednesday 13 April 2016 14.09 BST

The San Francisco man who received national attention for living in a wooden box in a friend’s living room violated local housing laws and created a major fire hazard, according to city officials, who have pressured him to take down his pod and move out.

Peter Berkowitz’s story went viral after he explained in an op-ed for the Guardian that his solution to the city’s housing crisis was to pay $400 a month to live in a tiny pod that he built in his friend’s place – a semi-private wooden home with enough room for a fold-down desk, a mini bed and a reading light.

That solution, it turns out, was illegal and, according to city inspectors, very dangerous.

“The housing codes, the fire codes and the building codes are fairly restrictive in terms of what you can do inside, in terms of coming up with another enclosed bedroom,” said William Strawn, director of public affairs for San Francisco’s department of building inspection. “With these types of, what I’ll call creative efforts to try and cope with what everybody recognizes is a tough housing market here, you still have to follow some basic safety … rules.”

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/13/san-francisco-new-home-rented-box-illegal


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Boxed out: man evicted after $400 rented box deemed illegal (Original Post) Eugene Apr 2016 OP
saw that coming Demonaut Apr 2016 #1
Looks like the "cage people" of Hong Kong who live in rabbit hutch size cages stacked two or three . Baobab Apr 2016 #22
omg....one of the captions said the guy has lived there 30 years Marrah_G Apr 2016 #24
I'm a little confused about this HDSam Apr 2016 #2
Likely tough to get out if there was a fire... TipTok Apr 2016 #3
^^This^^ Gormy Cuss Apr 2016 #11
A lot of large furniture gets built on the spot Mosby Apr 2016 #16
No one's sleping in the entertainment center Gormy Cuss Apr 2016 #23
Someone gets a place to stay and the city gets no tax revenue from it. lpbk2713 Apr 2016 #5
It's a box with a tiny exit blocking a window of the room. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #8
He is not paying any taxes, so he must be sent out to live on the streets. Rex Apr 2016 #19
It looks like a friggin fire hazard to me. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #4
This guy's never heard of room dividers? nt B2G Apr 2016 #6
"Little houses" are NOT the solution TBF Apr 2016 #7
This little house does not make sense to me but you cannot jwirr Apr 2016 #14
looks like somebody just wants attention LOL- Hey, can I build a box in your house and live in it? snooper2 Apr 2016 #9
Well that does it. edgineered Apr 2016 #10
Why the box? treestar Apr 2016 #12
Privacy I guess. Mariana Apr 2016 #20
good point treestar Apr 2016 #21
Turn this around and imagine the furor if say migrant hedgehog Apr 2016 #13
In shacks that are never even inspected for safety issues. jwirr Apr 2016 #15
The real problem is the exorbitant rent charged by greedy landlords meow2u3 Apr 2016 #17
When the tech bubbles blows there, there will be no one to pay those huge rents. Marrah_G Apr 2016 #25
All that bullshit, because the city wasn't getting any tax money. How pathetic. Rex Apr 2016 #18

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
22. Looks like the "cage people" of Hong Kong who live in rabbit hutch size cages stacked two or three .
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:12 PM
Apr 2016

high, roughly one by one by two meters -

https://www.google.com/search?q=cage+people+hong+king&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

They don't have solid walls, they are cages. So they have better ventilation but no privacy.

HDSam

(251 posts)
2. I'm a little confused about this
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:06 AM
Apr 2016

The box isn't an alteration to the building structure, it's not as if they divided an existing room by adding a permanent wall to create another bedroom, this is effectively a couch and a desk in someone's living room.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
11. ^^This^^
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:55 PM
Apr 2016

As an enclosed sleeping quarter there are minimum requirements for egress and this doesn't even come close to meeting them. Also, the box may obstruct an existing egress (hard to tell.) Construction materials may also be an issue.

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
16. A lot of large furniture gets built on the spot
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:12 PM
Apr 2016

It's not like you could move that massive Sauder or IKIA entertainment center or bookshelf in case of a fire.

It's a big wooden box inside an apartment.

The whole thing stinks of government meddling.



Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
23. No one's sleping in the entertainment center
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:34 AM
Apr 2016

and if it's illegally blocking an egress it would also be subject to citation.

But yeah, health and safety codes are government meddling.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
5. Someone gets a place to stay and the city gets no tax revenue from it.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:19 AM
Apr 2016



Fairly straightforward why one of the costliest cities in the US acted on it.




 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. He is not paying any taxes, so he must be sent out to live on the streets.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:21 PM
Apr 2016

With the other folks that don't pay any taxes. That is our standard in America and as you can see some people love the idea of making someone homeless...bless their tiny little hearts!

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
4. It looks like a friggin fire hazard to me.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

Sometimes we have regulations to protect people from themselves. Big old box blocking one of the windows in the room. And sleeping in a big old box with a reading light and one tiny exit. What could possibly go wrong?

TBF

(32,064 posts)
7. "Little houses" are NOT the solution
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:26 AM
Apr 2016

we need to stop the farce that is capitalism and redistribute wealth (and eventually this needs to be a global endeavor). There should not be people in mansions, with multiple homes, etc. while others don't even have a decent living space. Our current methods of allocating resources are unacceptable and unsustainable.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
14. This little house does not make sense to me but you cannot
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:08 PM
Apr 2016

condemn the whole movement. I for one am tired of living with relatives where nothing is for me - can't use the kitchen because they work nights and sleep days - etc. I am at present designing a small house the size of a one car garage. It will be safe and have plenty of room for one person as well as room for my great grandchildren to visit. In fact they are all going to want little houses of their own.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
9. looks like somebody just wants attention LOL- Hey, can I build a box in your house and live in it?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
10. Well that does it.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

Time to clean out all the aerosol cans from the bathroom and the kitchen. If a spark from an electrical short set one of them off the peanut butter would be next, followed by the cooking oil and everything else. When are we going to wake up and move back into stone caves?

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
20. Privacy I guess.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

Better to put up some moveable divider screens or curtains or something like that to separate his space from the rest of the room. If they can construct that box, they can surely rig up something safer for him.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. good point
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:02 PM
Apr 2016

it's making his own little space - surely there is a way to do it that is not a fire hazard.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
13. Turn this around and imagine the furor if say migrant
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

workers were forced to double up this way. On second thought, they probably are!

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
17. The real problem is the exorbitant rent charged by greedy landlords
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:13 PM
Apr 2016

who want to make a quick million yesterday.

San Francisco is the epicenter of greedhead tech millionaires trying to price the poor and middle class out of the city. I think there ought to be laws prohibiting unreasonably high rents just to keep out "undesirables" and criminal penalties to enforce an anti-greed law.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. All that bullshit, because the city wasn't getting any tax money. How pathetic.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:18 PM
Apr 2016

So now instead of the guy perhaps burning to death inside his now defunct home, he can freeze to death in the coldness out on the streets. With certainty!

So we think it better to live in a cardboard box on the streets, then in a wooden box inside someones house. Got it. Good to know.

But but...codes and laws! Fuck off with that grade A bullshit.

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