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maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:19 PM Apr 2016

I'm 55 Yrs Old, Middle-Class White Male, Retired Military...and I'm pi$$ed as hell

I’ve heard and read a lot about the “angry middle class white male” voter lately. Well, let me tell you that I fit that description.

I’m so “blanking” pissed I can’t see straight!

I’m angry that white middle class males support a Republican Party that has done nothing but shatter their lives, send their kids off to endless war, wrecked their labor rights, screwed their wages and told their mothers, wives, sisters, daughters and granddaughters that “they aren’t smart enough and emotionally secure enough” to control their own health care.

- I’m pissed that they put Ronald Reagan into office twice, believing that it was “their” social safety net and economic protections, and NOT the profits of the 1% that had become bloated and ineffective.

- I’m pissed that they have declared their enemy to be the fire-fighter who lives down the street, the teacher who teaches their kids, or the government Financial Management Analyst that coaches their kids little league baseball team, simply because those “Americans” have a decent pension and benefits package. I’m extremely ticked-off that they don’t ask instead…WHY DO MY BENEFITS AND RETIREMENT PLANS SUCK SOOOOOOO MUCH!!!

- I’m perturbed that they don’t realize that 400 years of slavery, followed by 150 years of “State-Sanctioned” racism and discrimination…in housing…in employment…in education…in law enforcement…in voting…in mobility…might, JUST MIGHT, have something to do with some folks being mired in abject poverty.

- I’m fucking apocalyptic that the White Middle Class watched 5 and 6 year old kids get their fucking brains blown out and their torsos blown in half by military grade weapons and ammunition magazines, and allowed some LaPierre asshat to convince them that we couldn’t do ONE reasonable fucking thing to make this mass-murder shit a little harder to carry out. That’s all we were asking…let’s just make killing massive amounts of people just a little bit harder. Instead they listened to this ass-pickle from the NRA, who they KNOW in their heart of hearts, would be the first prick to turn tail and run in a barfight.

- I’m pissed that they’ve given away just about all the labor rights and social justice progress that their forefathers fought and died for, without so much as a whimper.

- I’m beyond angry that they believed a guy with five Vietnam Era deferments and a guy that spent the war defending the Floribama Bar, were better suited to defend this country, or understand the sacrifices asked of our military, than the guy that did “back-to-back” Riverine tours in Nam with the Purple Hearts and Bronze Stars to prove it.

But what pisses me off the most is that they’ve become frightened little pissants…either brainwashed by incessant horseshit on talk radio or constantly told by Faux News that, “others” and NOT their own “effing” votes and support for the asshat party, are the reason they’ve been held back. It’s never the fact that they’ve bought into the “trickle-down” bullshit that has caused their wages to stagnate, their social safety net to be destroyed, or their employment right to be diminished…NO…it’s always the fault of some “other”.

-Some mythical Welfare Queen
-Some immigrant picking lettuce for $20 a day
-Some LGBT person who just wants to be left the “eff” alone to love who they love and prosper in freedom
-Some Union Member that patrols their streets, teaches their spoiled ass kids, or protects their home from fire.

Hell NO! Admitting that they’ve been played like fools for the past 30 years would require them to blame themselves, and they are way too cowardly to do that.

So what will they do? They’ll continue to vote for pricks like Donald Trump, or Chuck Grassley, or John Kasich, or Sam Brownback, in the hopes that maybe if we just pump more wealth to the top, it’ll all start trickling down eventually. Bet hey, when it doesn’t, they’ll just blame the liberals, the hippies, the dope smokers and the queers.

These asshats, most making between $42-$47K a year with a shitty 401K and bare-bones health benefits, identify their enemy as their fellow American making between $46-$51K a year with a decent pension and benefits…and that pisses me off to no end.


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I'm 55 Yrs Old, Middle-Class White Male, Retired Military...and I'm pi$$ed as hell (Original Post) maxrandb Apr 2016 OP
Well said. narnian60 Apr 2016 #1
Excellent rant! TreasonousBastard Apr 2016 #2
Great post. hamsterjill Apr 2016 #3
A righteous, pithy, and eloquent rant. 3catwoman3 Apr 2016 #4
Here Here The Polack MSgt Apr 2016 #5
K & R. Great post! Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #6
They think that once the people at the top get all they can hold on to, it will start spilling LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #7
Bravo, thank you, and K&R! n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2016 #8
Righteous! Respect. nt thereismore Apr 2016 #9
I'm 52 and also pissed to the max Hayduke Bomgarte Apr 2016 #10
Outstanding, Max! ProfessorGAC Apr 2016 #11
Could't have said it better myself Populist_Prole Apr 2016 #12
I'm pissed that when those white working class men see the light... lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #13
Nailed it! Blue Dalek Apr 2016 #14
Thank you and I am sure there are many more like you. jwirr Apr 2016 #15
Thank you for stating that so well! brer cat Apr 2016 #16
K&R! felix_numinous Apr 2016 #17
Great rant! K&R Duval Apr 2016 #18
Thank you! Great post! Missed a couple though.. vkkv Apr 2016 #19
THIS is the DU I remember WilliamPitt Apr 2016 #20
+1 FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #59
+2, well said and concisely. nt. druidity33 Apr 2016 #83
+3 and a zillion 840high Apr 2016 #109
EXACTLY!!!!! blm Apr 2016 #93
What an incredibly great piece of writing. bjo59 Apr 2016 #21
I'll second that n/t renate Apr 2016 #69
I wish the people who need to read this would read it. TryLogic Apr 2016 #22
Me too, but Hayduke Bomgarte Apr 2016 #48
Standing ovation....yes, you nailed it! mudstump Apr 2016 #23
Kudos and Thank You SocialLibFiscalCon Apr 2016 #24
America needs more people pissed off Maxrandb-style. Hortensis Apr 2016 #25
Give me the seat next to you.... daleanime Apr 2016 #26
Righteous! bbgrunt Apr 2016 #27
I am the same wickets as you 4Q2u2 Apr 2016 #28
It's hard to understand at times maxrandb Apr 2016 #51
Hey, old pal, can this be shared on the 'internets'? blm Apr 2016 #92
I don't really do Facebook maxrandb Apr 2016 #98
I know you did - but, what you feel is too real to be ignored. blm Apr 2016 #104
I agree, it is confusing... malthaussen Apr 2016 #124
59 yr old woman here agrees with you irisblue Apr 2016 #29
Good job!! tularetom Apr 2016 #30
K&R!!!! thanks! FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #31
This crowd doesn't realize that cap Apr 2016 #32
What they also do not realize 4Q2u2 Apr 2016 #130
Smart people make the good teachers. Good pay Hortensis Apr 2016 #131
KnR for visibility. Brilliant rant! nt tblue37 Apr 2016 #33
Yup! 2naSalit Apr 2016 #34
Right on! LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #35
When you're rant, you're rant... Wounded Bear Apr 2016 #36
they grew fat on the goernment cow's milk--and then decided they wanted burgers MisterP Apr 2016 #37
Hear hear!! nt Doremus Apr 2016 #38
This 73 year old widow living (barely) on SS only agrees with you. Paper Roses Apr 2016 #39
Right on, Brother! noiretextatique Apr 2016 #40
Funny 1939 Apr 2016 #41
brilliant rant barbtries Apr 2016 #42
Good Lord! You are awesome. Funtatlaguy Apr 2016 #43
I was thinking beltanefauve Apr 2016 #63
Rant worthy of Howard Beale. Especially this: Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #44
K&R So true! B Calm Apr 2016 #45
What a great rant. mnhtnbb Apr 2016 #46
Standing Ovation! Drop the f'n mic! Z_California Apr 2016 #47
awesome.... also Locrian Apr 2016 #49
Righteous! zentrum Apr 2016 #50
I`m on my feet....cheering! democrank Apr 2016 #52
Mic DROP! LittleGirl Apr 2016 #53
+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #54
You described my blue state bubba brother to a T riverbendviewgal Apr 2016 #55
By far... deathrind Apr 2016 #56
K&R silvershadow Apr 2016 #57
A Most Righteous Rant Tsiyu Apr 2016 #58
I am also pissed that some Dems think voting for the "Hydra" Candidate Clinton Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #60
I like Bernie maxrandb Apr 2016 #62
Max, you are a true Mensch--your integrity and honor shine through your words. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #77
YES! I agree completely. maddiemom Apr 2016 #128
K&R ReRe Apr 2016 #61
Agree 100%, but not just cowardice bigbadR Apr 2016 #64
Great post malaise Apr 2016 #65
Hear, hear! onecaliberal Apr 2016 #66
A righteous rant. alarimer Apr 2016 #67
right on brother---EX AF porkified Apr 2016 #68
Well said. Thank you lots. Stay pissed! oldandhappy Apr 2016 #70
WooHoo! Maxrandb for VP. What a rightgeous rant. brush Apr 2016 #71
Absolutely! K&R NikolaC Apr 2016 #72
A Gazillion Thumbs UP!! Sunlei Apr 2016 #73
Join The Club scottie55 Apr 2016 #74
I am also mad a hell. I am one of those teachers who now am disabled and... StarzGuy Apr 2016 #75
I'm with you!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2016 #76
Can't disagree with any of that WDIM Apr 2016 #78
In addition to being 55, middle class, white,male,retired military, and pissed as hell; YOU sir, , annabanana Apr 2016 #79
Righteous rant sir! Well said. haikugal Apr 2016 #80
Every Repuke you named in your rant is a.... wolfie001 Apr 2016 #81
Love a good rant. Even better when its righteous! Stinky The Clown Apr 2016 #82
Post of the day for me footinmouth Apr 2016 #84
Plus you appear to be a Brown's fan... TipTok Apr 2016 #85
A-MEN!!!! emmadoggy Apr 2016 #86
Fabulous rant! Punkingal Apr 2016 #87
Damned right! Third Doctor Apr 2016 #88
Have to give that Rant an A+... Thespian2 Apr 2016 #89
you are100% right Pakid Apr 2016 #90
POST OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!! blm Apr 2016 #91
Totally agree with you! I'm angry in the same way, too! Rabrrrrrr Apr 2016 #94
PREACH IT maxrandb Skittles Apr 2016 #95
Rec & Kick. MerryBlooms Apr 2016 #96
I'm also a middle aged white male who's pissed as hell....well said maxrandb DrewFlorida Apr 2016 #97
Hear, here! Scruffy Rumbler Apr 2016 #99
Excellent addition tothe original rant! maddiemom Apr 2016 #127
This has been SO TRUE for SO LONG mrsadm Apr 2016 #100
Bravo! smirkymonkey Apr 2016 #101
You've said it all!!! Stellar Apr 2016 #102
say that! kicked MaeScott Apr 2016 #103
Well said, maxrandb: You are 100% correct. joanbarnes Apr 2016 #105
Tell it, Brother! T-E-L-L I-T! Raster Apr 2016 #106
Not just an excellent rant, but I think an excellent start on a campaign platform. Ever think about rwsanders Apr 2016 #107
ah, I love the smell of hate in the morning hfojvt Apr 2016 #108
Sometimes, there's nowhere else to go. mdbl Apr 2016 #117
Happy to be rec #330 A HERETIC I AM Apr 2016 #110
yes demigoddess Apr 2016 #111
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #112
Right on! cheapdate Apr 2016 #113
Oh my, maxrandb Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2016 #114
They do it because they get mixed signals from the 'New' Democrats. w4rma Apr 2016 #115
Well said! mdbl Apr 2016 #116
K&R!!! wonderful, wonderful post! secondwind Apr 2016 #118
MIC DROP!!! archiemo Apr 2016 #119
Thank you for putting into words exactly what I feel. Loki Apr 2016 #120
K&R yuiyoshida Apr 2016 #121
You had me at "ass-pickle" ProfessorPlum Apr 2016 #122
Righteous rant. malthaussen Apr 2016 #123
And as our future becomes warmer and less hospitable to lifeforms. raouldukelives Apr 2016 #125
Yesterday on a post about Obamacare.... cynzke Apr 2016 #126
K&R&bookmark nt JEB Apr 2016 #129
I signed in for the first time in weeks just to rec your post. Efilroft Sul Apr 2016 #132
Historic post, maxrandb. Octafish May 2016 #133

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
3. Great post.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:24 PM
Apr 2016

As a middle aged white female, I'm pissed, as well. My particular piss is women who vote for Republicans that want to take females back to the dark ages.

Thanks for your insight.

The Polack MSgt

(13,189 posts)
5. Here Here
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

We should start a club...

Says another pissed off retired military middle aged middle class white man.

The reflexive hatred - based on fear - makes me cringe.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
7. They think that once the people at the top get all they can hold on to, it will start spilling
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:28 PM
Apr 2016

from the overflow at the top of the pile. They forget the the 1% have the overflow going to the islands, so it will never overflow the ones under them.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
10. I'm 52 and also pissed to the max
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

Not only about all the things you speak of, but the fact that THOSE you speak of have willingly allowed themselves to be dumbed down, systematically, to where they buy into the horseshit they THINK they're enraged at.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
12. Could't have said it better myself
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

I wish I could make every idiot I know that barks up the wrong tree read this.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
13. I'm pissed that when those white working class men see the light...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

... and express support for a democrat, and the only progressive running, Clinton supporters try to run them off.

"Bernie Bros" my ass. It is long past time that the democratic party articulate a credible sense of empathy for the wellbeing of working class people.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
19. Thank you! Great post! Missed a couple though..
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:09 PM
Apr 2016

I'm so friggin' pissed that the GOP is making harder for people to vote.

I'm so friggin' pissed that only about one-thrid of the populous DOES VOTE!


vkkv is GETTING UPSET !!!!!!

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
21. What an incredibly great piece of writing.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

Do you write for the public in other venues? You should! Articulate, passionate, convincing and impossible to stop reading once one starts! So right in everything you said.

 
24. Kudos and Thank You
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

Excellent diatribe! Thank you for your service to our country and for having the courage to speak your mind.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. America needs more people pissed off Maxrandb-style.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:18 PM
Apr 2016

Don't calm down a bit, please! Maybe reinforce your braincase with some duct tape, though (yet another use for one of the world's great inventions).

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
28. I am the same wickets as you
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:24 PM
Apr 2016

See and hear all the BS about handouts, give-aways. Never a mention of Corporate Welfare.
It is also a mind set of "I got mine, shut the door."
Forgetting how awful our Grandparents and all working people were treated for so long.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
51. It's hard to understand at times
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:27 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe too many of the older generation have shuffled off the mortal coil, but, it's as if people think that we did Social Security for example, just for the hell of it.

They have no idea that at one time our elderly were dying in the streets, or being shipped off to Poor Farms when their usefulness to their employer had run out.

I guess America at that time said that watching poor old people die in the streets would not stand.

Now we feel "fortunate" if one of the leading candidates for one of the major political parties says; "well, we wouldn't let people just die in the street"

Thanks a lot!

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
98. I don't really do Facebook
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:53 PM
Apr 2016

But it's not like I have copywrite rights or anything. My military language may be too much for Facebook though.

If someone wants to share what I wrote, I have no objection.

Flattering, but I just wrote what I was feeling

blm

(113,064 posts)
104. I know you did - but, what you feel is too real to be ignored.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:28 PM
Apr 2016

And those of us who feel the same and are too awkward to express it, thank you. Thank you.

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
124. I agree, it is confusing...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:31 AM
Apr 2016

... a great example of this: South Philly is a neighborhood that has long been historically identified with Italian immigrants. It's like the quintessential Little Italy. There are two famous tourist-trap sandwich shops right across from each other in this neighborhood, and one of them was owned by the quintessential RW bigot -- he even had a sign in his window saying that all orders must be placed in English. This, in the heart of a neighborhood where only a generation or so ago, everyone spoke Italian. It boggles the mind.

-- Mal

cap

(7,170 posts)
32. This crowd doesn't realize that
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:39 PM
Apr 2016

Unionized well paid teachers go hand in hand with a good school district. Houses in a good school district sell for a premium. The sale of those same houses are the underpinnings of a retirement without a pension. Without that house they are living in a Medicare/Medicaid old age home. Or their wives will be breaking their back and sacrificing their mental and physical health to take care of them. After they finish taking care of them their wives will be dependent on their kids. Or living in destitution themselves. Social security widows of $45,000 salary men get peanuts for retirement.

Fools.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
130. What they also do not realize
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

That unless you graduated high school in 1899, you had a very good chance of being educated by a Union Teacher.
This is nothing new, they act like Unionized Teachers is only a couple of decades old.
They fail to realize that they were Educated by a Union Teacher and as the old saying goes. "They turned out alright". Somewhat.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
131. Smart people make the good teachers. Good pay
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:03 PM
Apr 2016

correlates strongly with smart people who correlate with good educators.

Unfortunately, I am afraid unions have been protecting bad teachers and in so doing have been ineffectual at keeping salaries and prestige high enough to attract more intelligent, energetic people to teaching. Those summers off when salaries were still comfortable enough that they could afford them were once a nice draw too.

Wounded Bear

(58,663 posts)
36. When you're rant, you're rant...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

thanks for sharing. I'm a little older than you, but I agree on just about all of that.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
37. they grew fat on the goernment cow's milk--and then decided they wanted burgers
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016

though ironically Trump's a government-spending autarkist who's exposing the GOP trick of feeding their home states Fed dollars while screaming about gubmint spending
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-trump-big-government-20160301-story.html

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
39. This 73 year old widow living (barely) on SS only agrees with you.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

Thanks for posting, great rant. We need more. Good points, well said!

1939

(1,683 posts)
41. Funny
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:02 PM
Apr 2016

I "paid any price and bore any burden" and then went "all the way for LBJ". Never knew JFK and LBJ were GOP. 1961-1989.

barbtries

(28,798 posts)
42. brilliant rant
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:08 PM
Apr 2016

do you have a blog? the fb link doesn't work for me, and i would like to see this spread around.

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
43. Good Lord! You are awesome.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:09 PM
Apr 2016

I'm ready to run out of the tunnel and whip some republcan arse....lol

Seriously, I wish you would run for office.
We need people wth your passion and ability to write and speak well as a candidate for something, even if it's just your local city council.
You are great!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
44. Rant worthy of Howard Beale. Especially this:
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:11 PM
Apr 2016
But what pisses me off the most is that they’ve become frightened little pissants…either brainwashed by incessant horseshit on talk radio or constantly told by Faux News that, “others” and NOT their own “effing” votes and support for the asshat party, are the reason they’ve been held back.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
49. awesome.... also
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:23 PM
Apr 2016

I'm pissed that the white middle class believes that the biggest financial fuckup in history was caused, not by a bunch of arrogant self serving pricks - but that it was the fault of poor people taking out loans. That the market is the only force that is guaranteed to bring prosperity to them, and we should trust the same wallstreet geniuses with our life savings.

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
55. You described my blue state bubba brother to a T
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016

He loves Trump. He hates unions, although he early retired from a job he was a union member. He says he had to retire because too many lazy minorities and immigrants were becomibg members.

We are like night and day. People like him are the reason I chose to be Canadian.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
58. A Most Righteous Rant
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:39 PM
Apr 2016

You say what I'm thinking. Anyone who thinks Trump, Cruz, et al. speak for them is blinded by someone else's agenda.

But you can't get people to see this.

You know all the the derision rightwingers have for the "everybody-gets-a-trophy" kids activities? That's how moderates treat politics:

"Now, now. Democrats and Republicans are just the same."

No. No they're not the same at all. They don't both get a trophy.

Or you have the dysfunctional 30% who hate everyone (frequent toxic denizens of news comment sections) and are probably just: evil-hearted because they get off on being evil/sick and in pain so they lash out/from horribly abusive backgrounds/addicted to Anger Porn aka FOX News or GodComplex Porn aka cultish church doctrine/living alone because no one can stand them.

Some people hate to realize they've been played for fools, and others care very, very deeply what their "tribe" thinks, so they will not say or do anything to not fit in, even if they're fitting in with misguided and uneducated rubes.

So we get apathetic or misled voters.

And the foxes guard the henhouse while pitting the beleaguered chickens against each other.




 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
60. I am also pissed that some Dems think voting for the "Hydra" Candidate Clinton
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

think that will also improve what is being done to us.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
62. I like Bernie
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

but I also like Hillary Clinton, and I know that either one of them would be 100 times better than any ReTrumplican.

We need to stop this stuff. Right now, FDR would be considered too Conservative from some on DU, and that's a damn shame. It's also what the right depends on. Divide and conquer. Drum up outrage within the left about Hillary's vote for the Iraq War (BTW - that is mischaracterized. It was a vote authorizing the President to use force, NOT a declaration of War)

Anyway, while the left is distracted by this "outrage", we'll come in and pick the pockets of the Middle Class and poor once again.

Please answer me this, or answer yourself this question; "do you really believe that if Hillary Clinton, or John Kerry were President at the time instead of "Dubya", they would have fucked up the Iraq issue like Dubya, or would they have been more rational and cautious?"

I guarantee you one thing...neither of them would have been getting advice from Dick Cheney!

Just do us old farts a favor. Support and work for Bernie if you like. Support and work for Hillary in you like. But, when a nominee is selected, work to defeat the "real" enemy to our country...the T-bagging ReTrumplicans!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
77. Max, you are a true Mensch--your integrity and honor shine through your words.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:45 PM
Apr 2016
We need to stop this stuff. Right now, FDR would be considered too Conservative from some on DU, and that's a damn shame. It's also what the right depends on. Divide and conquer. Drum up outrage within the left about Hillary's vote for the Iraq War (BTW - that is mischaracterized. It was a vote authorizing the President to use force, NOT a declaration of War)
.../...

...Support and work for Bernie if you like. Support and work for Hillary in you like. But, when a nominee is selected, work to defeat the "real" enemy to our country...the T-bagging ReTrumplicans!
 

bigbadR

(49 posts)
64. Agree 100%, but not just cowardice
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:13 PM
Apr 2016

Not only are these guys cowards they are ignorant. Their continued support of people and policies that create more and more suffering, theirs included is why public education is so crucial to our democracy. Since the Reagan era our public eduction has suffered on all levels. In current so called red states elected representatives have cut huge amounts millions upon millions for higher education. At the same time college has become prohibitively expensive for many of us. As a result IGNORANCE is becoming the status quo. Ignorance supported by and leading to extreme philosophies, ignorance supported by the notion that everybody must agree with my point of view or suffer hate, harassment and persecution. This is patently absurd and is 100% antithetical to any and all democratic practices and principals. The behind the scenes powers that be and big monied interest know that ignorant people are much easier to brainwash, manipulate and control. This is why "higher education" is becoming out of bounds for most Americans. It is also why we need to run progressive, educated, ethical and non-religious extremists for local school boards. All of us need to work our hearts out for the destruction of ignorance.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
67. A righteous rant.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:18 PM
Apr 2016

I'm also pissed at all that AND at the military bloat. All those millions (billions) pissed away on weapons we don't need, that don't work and that only exist to keep contractors fat and happy.

StarzGuy

(254 posts)
75. I am also mad a hell. I am one of those teachers who now am disabled and...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:41 PM
Apr 2016

...I can't make ends meet with my SSDI benefit and a small pension. I feel I was sold a bill of goods not worth a plug nickle. I worked hard as a teacher for over 30 years. I was always discounted, I didn't matter, little if any respect from administrators, parents, kids and the state legislature. It took me nearly 30 years to attain a mid $50K salary with benefits. I have many degrees all the way up to a PhD. but it makes little difference. How is it that a professional sports player can be worth $150,000,000 and I, a teacher can not even afford to live anymore given the meager disability benefit? What kind of F**ked up world is this?

Trickle down (Pi** down in actuality) BS started long before Reagan, but in fairness the meanest pile of poop began with his administration. Dems made few inroads and were also part of the demise of the middle class. Once in office, their salaries and back door deals makes them rich and part of the 1%.

I'm really not all that political but I do know when I've been sold that sorry bill of goods AKA you can make it into the middle class and have a good life.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
79. In addition to being 55, middle class, white,male,retired military, and pissed as hell; YOU sir, ,
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:52 PM
Apr 2016

can WRITE!

kudos you, you, author you!

Scruffy Rumbler

(961 posts)
99. Hear, here!
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:22 PM - Edit history (2)

If I may be so bold as to add,
I am not having a conversation about racism with a racist.
I am not having a conversation about LGBT rights with a homophobic christian.
I am not having a conversation why your religious freedom should allow you to make another person's life horrible.
I am not having a conversation with anyone about limiting a woman's healthcare choices.

These conversations have been had by the adult, caring, compassionate and loving members of the human SPECIES, not race, SPECIES and we decide along time ago that this hatred and division is not to be allowed in our PUBLIC COMMUNAL SPACES.

Keep your home as you see fit. Keep your sacred spaces as you see fit. And how others do or do not keep theirs, is of NO CONCERN to anyone else!

I do not want to see a man being tortured to death every time I leave my home, yet on EVERY road I travel, I am subjected to that triggering image. On businesses, in front yards, on cars and as litter on the side of the road where people died. I have compassion for your loss and that is why we have cemeteries. Forcing your grief on others is not right. And because we are a polite society, we allow these intrusions into our lives so you may live your life.

I do not want to see any flag from the traitorous confederacy. They lost that battle though they still fight the war. How can you be proud of a heritage that required humans to be in bondage to exist? How can you say you are an American and worship those that sought to tear this country apart? You should be embarrassed!

Do not pass racist memes that hold our veterans up as a false comparison to some minority group, to show how undeserving that minority group is. If $15.00 an hour is too much to pay a single working mother because our active duty soldiers make less, then get pissed at the people in power that think asking a young poor person to put their lives on the line for our safety for poverty wages is fair. Not the people that have to work for a living. GET PISSED AT THE RICH FUCKERS STEELING OUR WEALTH, PRODUCTIVITY AND LIVES!

There was a time when people fought for literacy and education. Now people are proud of their stupidity and display it as if it was a badge of honor!

mrsadm

(1,198 posts)
100. This has been SO TRUE for SO LONG
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:03 PM
Apr 2016

I cannot believe any of these people will ever wake up, and it frustrates me NO END that not one of them is capable of a tiny, minute bit of critical thinking about this situation. Remember the book written seemingly many years ago, "What's the matter with Kansas?" How do they never, never see?

(Utterly depressed...........)

rwsanders

(2,605 posts)
107. Not just an excellent rant, but I think an excellent start on a campaign platform. Ever think about
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:54 PM
Apr 2016

running yourself?
It is a big commitment, but if you life would allow it, you should go for it.
Where I live at the state level many right wingers run unopposed, but financially, I couldn't make the switch.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
108. ah, I love the smell of hate in the morning
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:01 PM
Apr 2016

oh wait, no I don't.

All your anger and hatred towards your fellow Americans might make you and the choir feel good, and also feel superior, but it doesn't really help us win elections.

"Hey you cowardly a$$hats, vote for us, because liberals really care about you."

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
117. Sometimes, there's nowhere else to go.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 06:43 AM
Apr 2016

After banging your head against a wall of lunacy, you just have to say WTF!! I applaud your ability to stay calm in the face of a continuing disaster.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
114. Oh my, maxrandb
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:41 AM
Apr 2016

You've been doing some serious soul-searching. Lucky for us, your thoughts got transcribed. You've expressed what's in my heart, and I thank you.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
115. They do it because they get mixed signals from the 'New' Democrats.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:43 AM
Apr 2016

They're confused and the neoliberals running the Democratic Party, currently, are trying to keep them confused.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
125. And as our future becomes warmer and less hospitable to lifeforms.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:39 AM
Apr 2016

Thanks in large part to efforts of shareholders investing against us all hearing the truth. They would like to make sure we have as few benefits as possible because they know fully well they will be needed more than ever.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
126. Yesterday on a post about Obamacare....
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:13 AM
Apr 2016

a man was complaining about taxpayers having to pay for the subsidies. The kicker was this guy works for VDOT. And who pays for HIS salary and benefits? At the VDOT website under employment, the VDOT boasts that an employee earning $40,000 ACTUALLY receives $71,000 in COMPENSATION. The employee only pays tax on $40,000 salary, and gets a tax free subsidy of $31,000.

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