The MEN of America are poised to hand the reins of the country to an orange-coiffed, piggish man-boy

[ProfessorPlum]

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And everyone knows they are stupid enough to do it.

This election is going to split the country along gender lines. And the majority of men in this country are going to vote for this idiot, this thief who doesn't pay his bills, who doesn't know anything, and who thinks he can just coast along by seat-of-his-pants answers, like a kid trying to bluff his way through a book report on a book he hasn't glanced at.

The only question is will enough women vote for Clinton, and will few enough men vote for Trump to create a big enough gap for a Democratic victory.

My gender should be ashamed of this - and if you know men in your lives who might be voting for this asshole, please do what you can to change their minds.

[RandySF]

1. If only men voted

The Republicans would be the more progressive alternative.

[enid602]

2. trump

It would be bad enough if they were just voting for a clown. I fear Trump may be far worse.

[ghostsinthemachine]

3. Not this man

Nor any that I know, except for a couple. The most ignorant FOX news watching ones.

[beachbum bob]

4. 70% or better of the women voters in november will be voting for hillary

near 80% + of hispanics will vote hillary.....98%+ of black voters for hillary....across the board will add up to a democratic landslide...I will laugh my ass off if hillary wins Texas...abd she has chance to do that


what GOP feared and hoped to change this dynamic after the 2012 election by reaching out to women and hispanics.....and the exact opposite has happened becasue of the moron the conservatives selected...

[1StrongBlackMan]

11. And ...

I will laugh my ass off if hillary wins Texas...abd she has chance to do that

I'm hearing rumblings that HRC has a shot to carry Arizona ... a state that hasn't gone Blue in 50+ years.

[Marr]

46. I think you're going to be unpleasantly surprised.

Hillary's numbers always erode as contests wear on. She's got this ongoing FBI problem, and if could well result in a recommended indictment. The GOP almost certainly has a couple of October surprises to throw at her, too-- and I suspect one of them is a transcript of one of her Wall Street speeches.

[beachbum bob]

52. Don't think so...

time will tell...hillarys numbers can only go up as we leave the primary season and head into general election.


btw, I heard all the naysayers when obama got the nomination sown up in 2008 and they said he had no chance in the general election.....I was right then in 2008 and I will be correct again in 2016

[Marr]

55. I've been right before, too. It doesn't mean I'm always right.

I don't think Hillary will have an easy path to victory against Trump at all, if indeed she even can win.

[beachbum bob]

59. she has fought off 2 male egos and the media now for months.........and still has won

and yes I have been wrong....I thought the Cubs had a chance last year to win it all....this year I am much more certain...baring injuries....just like I am more certain than never with hillary and our democratic party and our voters....

[bigbrother05]

63. Think your %s are reasonable, just fear turn out

The RWNJs, bigots, etc. will turn out driven by their multilayered hatred. The real question is whether the Dems can generate the numbers to offset the other side. Me too politics doesn't often inspire GOTV.

Our side sometimes forgets that what we see as obvious negatives and reasoned arguments don't work on the GOP camp. No one is going to turn up to replace the vote you don't cast.

[beachbum bob]

64. trumps mouth and the rampant personal attacks forthcoming from him on hillary will insure

voter turn out for hillary

[FSogol]

5. Not this man.

[leftyladyfrommo]

6. One of my men friends called Trump

The Jackass of all Jackasses.

But there are a lot of men out there who are also jackasses. I run into them all the time.

[KPN]

16. That's what my wife says -- and

why she married me

But she says there's more women jackasses than there are men too! Go figure.

[CanonRay]

7. Not this old man

and every man I know thinks this guy is an idiot. Even the Republicans.

[raging moderate]

9. Can't they see what a pampered superannuated pretty boy he is?

This guy has never left the velvet lap of extreme luxury into which he was born.

[Initech]

8. Who has two thumbs and does not want Donald Trump as president? This guy!

[sofa king]

10. Not all of them!

All women, all minorities, and me spell overwhelming victory for Hillary Clinton!

Edit: Also, I must caution against trying to change the mind of your Trump-voting friend. If you're smart and liberal then your Trump friend already fears you and automatically believes the conservative bullshit even more when you try to talk him out of it. Yes, that is stupid, and that's what you're dealing with.

So instead, consider confusing your already deeply confused Trump voter. Tell him his vote is extremely important and no matter what he has to pick someone. Tell him that no matter what, don't register a protest vote by writing in Ronald Reagan. Remember that whatever you tell the guy, he's going to seriously consider doing the opposite of it.

[Gregorian]

12. Utter nonsense.

[ProfessorPlum]

13. Complete bollocks

[AlbertCat]

36. Complete bollocks

I know.



Does such a ridiculous statement mean I can post "This wouldn't be the case if the women of America had not voted for the "most untrustworthy" candidate in the Dem primary."?

[MynameisBlarney]

43. Do you have ANY cites at all to back up your BS claim?

Because I think it is not entirely accurate.


And by "not entirely accurate" I mean, absolute bullshit.

[zalinda]

14. [phone] eom

[ProfessorPlum]

25. [phone]!

[treestar]

15. Only white men

Fortunately, now a minority of voters.

[tonyt53]

17. Not THIS white man.

[treestar]

18. Yes true, he may get a majority of them, but he's not getting all of them either

He's got to lose. We can't have that clown in that office.

[drm604]

27. Not this white man.

Why do we have to make this about race and gender?

On one side of my family I have crazy right-wing relatives, male and female, who love Trump; on the other side, male and female, they are Democrats.

[treestar]

41. I don't think we have to make it about that

but the statistics from polling show he gets a majority of white men, like they show various races, genders, etc. So we're bound to discuss it.

[MynameisBlarney]

45. No. Not even.

Angry, conservative white men.

I'm a white man and I'd never vote for that trust-fund fascist.

[treestar]

65. You're right

I know a couple of those bitter angry right wing men - relatives, unfortunately. Though Trump is a total clown - you'd think they'd be embarrassed.

[Major Nikon]

48. All men have been the minority in presidential elections for more than 50 years

[treestar]

66. I was just reading on DU white men are at 30%

of the population, so even getting a majority of them is not a winning strategy.

[Major Nikon]

69. It was in 2000 and 2004

However, the biggest problem with the GOP's strategy is they have to get increasingly larger shares of an increasingly shrinking demographic.

If the next election is a resounding defeat, as it should be, you're going to start seeing the death throes of the GOP. They will never survive as a regional only party.

[HughBeaumont]

19. A real man thinks.

Dumbasses have someone doing the thinking for them (thus: Faith-based economics).

"President Trump" is a slightly less horrifying idea than "President Sarah Palin".

[Warpy]

26. He's far worse

At least she'd quit in 2 years.

[TygrBright]

40. DUzy! Wish I could rec this reply, Warpy! n/t

[Gene Debs]

20. You should try to make fewer blind assertions about other people.

[ancianita]

21. Tell the men in your life: Hillary is a woman. Donald is a whiney bitch. Period.

[blondie58]

22. These disgruntled White men Should look at the other alternative-

Bernie Sanders!

[SammyWinstonJack]

58. +1000000!

[geek tragedy]

23. it's white men, not all men--white men are embarrassingly supportive of Trump.

He's the most popular candidate amongst white men in the history of the United States.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027872386

[tiredtoo]

24. nor this man

But he does have the support of Kim Jung Un. so ?

[roamer65]

57. Nor this one. N/t

[Trust Buster]

28. This election is a referendum on the American people. Have standards of the average American

devolved to a point that they would elect such a classless carnival barker ? Americans have a penchant for blaming everything on the government. NO EXCUSES THIS TIME AMERICANS, THIS ELECTION IS ALL ON YOU !!!!!

[IronLionZion]

29. Calling them stupid will help!

I think the majority of people across genders and racial lines will vote for the Democrat this year. Many of them will vote against Trump because he's such an asshole.

[blm]

30. The Lord of the Flies administration

Was appropriate for Bush-Cheney, and just as appropriate for Trump and his ilk.

[MynameisBlarney]

31. The "majority of men"? LOLWUT?

I'm a man and I'd sooner shove a red hot poker in me bum than vote for that fascist fucktard.

Where did you come across this info, btw?

[Aristus]

32. Hey, leave me out of this.

I'm a middle-aged white American Christian man. If I didn't have a college degree and a professional career, I'd be Trump's target demographic. But I'm not. I don't want that crass lunatic anywhere near the White House; even the visitor's tour.

[7962]

33. Trump is NOT going to win. He's too arrogant. And he doesnt care

Piss off enough groups and you lose in a landslide. Regardless of the polls. Wait till the polls come out in October

[Betty Karlson]

34. Sorry, but even from a man this OP sounds sexist.

Maybe if Clinton hadn't responded to every criticism by pointing at her gender, I would share your concerns. Right now, I am tempted to say that "the WOMEN of America have given the weakest possible GE candidate the nomination of the DSemocratic Party, thus allowing that racist Trump a shot at the White Hpouse he would nopt have had against Sanders."

The gender argument has been played so many times that I am now impervious to its desired effect: I won't be shamed into voting for a flawed candidate, whatever his or her gender.

No more establishment for me. No more Democratic Party like it's 1999. The 20th century is over. And your Trump-card won't change my throrough loathing and despising of its relics. Your Trump-card IS one of those relics.

[Adrahil]

35. Not this man either!

[greiner3]

37. So your only reason for voting is because Hillary has a uterus

I agree Trump has more than a good reason for becoming president. But in my mind I have read NOTHING that will swing my vote away from Bernie. Sorry. But screw a 1 reason vote 💩💩💩💩💩💩

[blm]

39. ProfPlum is a Sanders supporter. You misread his point.

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[geek tragedy]

67. Ugh, please lose the "uterus" talking point, permanently. nt

[libodem]

42. Baby Man

Baby Hands.

[n2doc]

44. It is turnout that will matter

Will the groups supporting her come out and be inspired to vote for Clinton? Even in the face of republican voter obstruction?

Because it is all going to come down to turnout. It always does.

[Stonepounder]

47. Well, let's see....

I'm a white man, no college degree, living in a trailer park in Kentucky. So, I'll be rooting for Bernie until the convention, then I'll be backing whoever gets the nomination and I'll be voting bright BLUE come November. If you don't have a (D) after your name on the ballot, you won't be getting my vote. Period.

Now, tell me again about demographics?!?

[LibDemAlways]

49. I think both male and female idiots -- and there is no

shortage in this country -- will gladly vote Trump. Many because they like him (go figure) and many because they hate Hillary. Assuming she is the Dem nominee (not a given) the oucome will depend on turnout and which side is more motivated to get to the polls.

[YOHABLO]

50. Straight men feel as if they've been emasculated by our culture i.e. vote for Trump

[Person 2713]

61. Not all straight men

[niyad]

51. fortunately, the men I know are far more intelligent than that.

one of them pointed out that der drumpfenfuhrer's base is mostly angry old white men, and he figures that, based on demographics alone, a good ten percent of them will be dead before the election.

[JimDandy]

53. Fuck! I've been turned into a man again! Why does Clinton keep doing that to us

Progressive women?

Damn, I have to purchase a whole new wardrobe again and learn to scratch where I never scratched before.

------------------

Listen up, Clinton:

I am Woman,
hear me ROAR,
Know/No Clinton,
Know/No Trump,
NO MORE!

[geek tragedy]

68. your choice is Clinton or Trump, so you're apparently okay with Trump winning

Don't expect any kind of validation for being okay with Trump defeating Clinton, there is none to be had.

this isn't GDP, this is the general Republicans vs Democrats forum.

[Jack Rabbit]

54. Professor

Guys like Trump rub me the wrong way. He's a bully. I was the smallest kid in my class. How much do I despise Trump? I'll even vote for Hillary Clinton to block him from the White House. That's desperation, not a ringing endorsement of Mrs. Clinton.

I'll stay out of the campaign this year. I have little good to say about Mrs. Clinton, so I'll say nothing at all. I heard of bumper stickers in New Orleans during the gubernatorial election of 1991, Edwin Edwards vs. David Duke, proclaiming It's Important -- Vote for the Crook. That's exactly how I feel about this election.

Sure, I oppose the TPP, but not because it will help China. In fact, I can think of no way in which it will. It should be obvious to all that in addition to being a racist, misogynist, a sectarian bigot (although he's no more religious than my cat) and a climate science denier, Mr. Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. Hillary Clinton may have demonstrated poor judgment often, but at least it is informed poor judgment.

[lame54]

56. Enough women may vote for him to put him over the top

[Person 2713]

60. Not all

[AlbertCat]

62. I will just quote this:

"The survey also found that a greater share of women registered as Democrats want Sanders to stay in the race than do Democratic men, directly contradicting another popular media narrative that posits that Sanders' support comes largely from men, while rival Hillary Clinton supposedly wins more support from women. "


from this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016158948

[kdmorris]

70. Locking

Since this mentions Clinton, it belongs in GD-P. Please feel free to repost there. Thank you.