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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/how_should_america_resist_a_fascist.htmlThis is how fascism comes to America, not with jackboots and salutes, wrote Kagan, but with a television huckster, a phony billionaire, a textbook egomaniac tapping into popular resentments and insecurities, and with an entire national political partyout of ambition or blind party loyalty, or simply out of fearfalling into line behind him.
Kagan didnt address it but his piece raised an important question, perhaps the important question of this election: If Trump is a vector for fascismif he is a fascist, full stopthen what do we do about it? The history of the 20th century is, among many other things, a testament to the danger of popular authoritarianism and how it can overwhelm the better angels of a nations character to pursue its resentments with murderous efficiency. That history is why, in the face of Trump, the targets of his rage have organized against him.
So far, this movement against Trump is a democratic one that utilizes U.S. laws and institutions to mount a defense against a man who threatens them, from his attacks on the idea of an impartial judiciary to his tolerance for violence and support for a herrenvolk vision of American life. On the grass-roots level, Muslim and Latino activists are working to naturalize immigrants and register them for the ballot, while civil rights groups are fighting voter restrictions that may keep them from the polls. Students and other young people are protesting Trump events to demonstrate their stance against his rhetoric and aims. On an institutional level, the Democratic Party is planning a massive campaign against his candidacy, and the press is beginning to scrutinize his life and beliefs in serious ways.
elfin
(6,262 posts)Ala Seven Days in May if he orders them to do something blatantly crazy and unconstitutional.
Odd to expect a military to rise against fascism, but I think ours would do so, even if the Trumpenator appoints a lackey for Def Sec.
Otherwise, impeachment, but with a likely Repug grip on Congress, that won't happen.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Trump has said that he would pick, as his running mate, someone with political experience. Senators Bob Corker and Jeff Sessions have been mentioned as possibilities. Suppose a ticket of that sort were to win and be inaugurated. If Trump were then to embark on some significant craziness, the Republicans in Congress might well decide that they didn't want the backlash against him to drag them down in the 2018 midterms. They'd probably feel much more comfortable with a typical Republican politician in the Oval Office.
elfin
(6,262 posts)Impeachment takes TIME. The eventual result could be the VP taking over anyway.
Or Trump could depart, finally meeting a deal he could not finagle.
pangaia
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(14,691 posts)former9thward
(32,002 posts)It is an offensive insult to the victims of 1930s fascism to suggest he is. People are using the term 'fascism' as someone who has different views than them. They have their own private definition of the word. Not reality based at all.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Fascism as an Authoritarian Nationalist movement is more than just Hitlers take on it.
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)He is displaying all of the characteristics of a fascist. It would be a very small step for him to convince himself - and many of his followers - that he has to take over to "save" America from the Congress and the Supreme Court.
former9thward
(32,002 posts)Given our educational system, not surprising.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Actually, I have an extremely good sense of history and tested at 99th percentile. You and I merely disagree on our opinion of Trump's movement and followers.
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)... & it appears that Trump has studied the Hitler/Goebbels playbook...
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Franco lasted decades because he had the sense to not attack outside his country. I usually mention Franco as an example of a fascist movement that never ended as the two classic examples. In a sense, Franco was smart enough to rule as a classic dictator. Salazar in Portugal had many similar elements, but never developed the true autocracy that is inherent to fascism. I do have a co-worker who grew up in Angola (Portuguese colonist) and he has described the militaristic upbringing he children had. It's scary to think about.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)He's a right-wing populist demagogue, not a fascist.
"Vector" in this case is a weasel word - it's a way to get other people calling Trump a fascist, while maintaining plausible deniability about having done so oneself.
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)He is not a fascist today, but he has all the traits. Hitler was greatly admired by many Americans in the early 30s.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Given the strong authoritarian viewpoints that Trump supporters have expressed when polled, this movement is the closest this country has come to fascism. It's like It Can't Happen Here is coming to life.
Article on the Authoritarianism that is behind Trump: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/03/11/its-not-just-trump-authoritarian-populism-is-rising-across-the-west-heres-why/
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Not all military dictatorships are fascist, but all fascism is military dictatorship*.
If elected, Trump would leave office in 4 or 8 years democratically. Ergo, for all his faults, he is not a fascist.
*Please don't get me started on Lawrence Britt...
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Unless you're lying in a ditch somewhere. Don't worry, you'll be next to people like me.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)He admires Putin and strongmen.
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)It is only because he doesn't have the power yet
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)If Trump had to pay for every moment of television time that he gets no one would know who he is in the first place.
QED.