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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:52 AM Jun 2016

Stanford Swimmer Who Raped Unconscious Woman Gets Short Sentence Because Jail Would Have a ‘Severe I



This is horrible. A perpetuation of the rape culture that supposedly does not exist. This judge is negligent and needs to leave the bench.[hr]
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/stanford-swimmer-brock-allen-turner-sentenced.html?mid=fb-share-thecut

By Dayna Evans - June 3, 2016 11:41 a.m.


Brock Allen Turner, the former Stanford swimmer who was discovered raping an unconscious woman behind a dumpster on campus in January of last year, will be sentenced to six months in county jail and probation. Prosecutors had recommended that Turner receive a sentence of six years, but judge Aaron Persky determined that Turner's age — 20 — and lack of criminal history warranted him a much shorter sentence.

“A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him," Persky said at Turner's sentencing on Thursday. "I think he will not be a danger to others." Meanwhile, the 23-year-old victim in the rape case, who had had a blood-alcohol level three times the legal limit at the time of the rape and who had no memory of the attack, gave important testimony at the trial.

"You took away my worth, my privacy, my energy, my time, my safety, my intimacy, my confidence, my own voice, until today," she said, reportedly directly to Turner. "I am a human being who has been irreversibly hurt." And yet it's Turner who would be severely impacted in his sentencing? Right.

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Stanford Swimmer Who Raped Unconscious Woman Gets Short Sentence Because Jail Would Have a ‘Severe I (Original Post) FrodosPet Jun 2016 OP
When woman have value in America I will finally feel safe! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #1
WTF A Little Weird Jun 2016 #2
Powerful Letter The Stanford Victim Read Aloud To Her Attacker FrodosPet Jun 2016 #3
Holy shit--where did she find the courage to read that? Orrex Jun 2016 #8
Last Time I Checked, Norman Conch Quest Jun 2016 #4
I'd love to "have a severe impact on him." Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #5
White privilege or affluenza? Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #6
Probably both FrodosPet Jun 2016 #9
Rape, of course, does not have a "severe impact" on the victim. athena Jun 2016 #7
If I were her father Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #10
Completely agree. smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #14
if it had happened to me, it would be ME waiting Skittles Jun 2016 #35
America hates women. nt valerief Jun 2016 #11
Hard to argue with that when they keep proving it over and over. Iggo Jun 2016 #13
Also, we are becoming comfortable with living in a plutocracy. Judges seem to like it. Rex Jun 2016 #22
Hey Judge Persky - maybe you haven't seen this - asiliveandbreathe Jun 2016 #12
+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #15
But we have seen sex abusers in the GOP and Conversatives get no jail time. Set Free. rladdi Jun 2016 #16
What an ass! Don't do the crime if you can't do the time! Initech Jun 2016 #17
disgusting. He should be disbarred Actorvist Jun 2016 #18
He'd risk being raped in prison left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #19
Nah VA_Jill Jun 2016 #21
My barber's brother was 20 when he went to prison for a robbery left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #26
Yes, prison rape is horrible. Just like non-prison rape. FrodosPet Jun 2016 #23
Everyone sent to prison is at risk of being raped gollygee Jun 2016 #33
Well said. cui bono Jun 2016 #36
more likely others would be at risk of being raped by him considering he already JI7 Jun 2016 #39
Yep left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #40
Yeah he's the rapist here gollygee Jun 2016 #43
War on women? Nothing to see here move along... Rex Jun 2016 #20
I would like VA_Jill Jun 2016 #24
Horrible -nt Bradical79 Jun 2016 #25
This needs a review or an appeal Omaha Steve Jun 2016 #27
Back in the 90s Bad Dog Jun 2016 #28
This cannot be reposted enough times FrodosPet Jun 2016 #29
Who's to say Lazy Daisy Jun 2016 #30
Biased judge? catchnrelease Jun 2016 #31
maybe the Judge did the same to other girls when he was a student there JI7 Jun 2016 #38
I wonder if our dear young Brock will be on any list of sexual offenders. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #32
I believe he has to register as a sex offender mythology Jun 2016 #41
LEGAL QUESTION: Can the DA appeal the sentence? jg10003 Jun 2016 #34
piece of shit judge JI7 Jun 2016 #37
I saw where his father defended him. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2016 #42
By his reasoning, we should not imprison murderers FrodosPet Jun 2016 #46
Judge is a Stanford Alum JCMach1 Jun 2016 #44
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #45
Whoa. proverbialwisdom Jun 2016 #47

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
3. Powerful Letter The Stanford Victim Read Aloud To Her Attacker
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:05 AM
Jun 2016
https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-letter-the-stanford-victim-read-to-her-ra

Katie J.M. Baker
BuzzFeed News Reporter
posted on Jun. 3, 2016, at 4:17 p.m.


On January 17th, 2015, it was a quiet Saturday night at home. My dad made some dinner and I sat at the table with my younger sister who was visiting for the weekend. I was working full time and it was approaching my bed time. I planned to stay at home by myself, watch some TV and read, while she went to a party with her friends. Then, I decided it was my only night with her, I had nothing better to do, so why not, there’s a dumb party ten minutes from my house, I would go, dance like a fool, and embarrass my younger sister. On the way there, I joked that undergrad guys would have braces. My sister teased me for wearing a beige cardigan to a frat party like a librarian. I called myself “big mama”, because I knew I’d be the oldest one there. I made silly faces, let my guard down, and drank liquor too fast not factoring in that my tolerance had significantly lowered since college.
The next thing I remember I was in a gurney in a hallway. I had dried blood and bandages on the backs of my hands and elbow. I thought maybe I had fallen and was in an admin office on campus. I was very calm and wondering where my sister was. A deputy explained I had been assaulted. I still remained calm, assured he was speaking to the wrong person. I knew no one at this party. When I was finally allowed to use the restroom, I pulled down the hospital pants they had given me, went to pull down my underwear, and felt nothing. I still remember the feeling of my hands touching my skin and grabbing nothing. I looked down and there was nothing. The thin piece of fabric, the only thing between my vagina and anything else, was missing and everything inside me was silenced. I still don’t have words for that feeling. In order to keep breathing, I thought maybe the policemen used scissors to cut them off for evidence.

Then, I felt pine needles scratching the back of my neck and started pulling them out my hair. I thought maybe, the pine needles had fallen from a tree onto my head. My brain was talking my gut into not collapsing. Because my gut was saying, help me, help me.
I shuffled from room to room with a blanket wrapped around me, pine needles trailing behind me, I left a little pile in every room I sat in. I was asked to sign papers that said “Rape Victim” and I thought something has really happened. My clothes were confiscated and I stood naked while the nurses held a ruler to various abrasions on my body and photographed them. The three of us worked to comb the pine needles out of my hair, six hands to fill one paper bag. To calm me down, they said it’s just the flora and fauna, flora and fauna. I had multiple swabs inserted into my vagina and anus, needles for shots, pills, had a Nikon pointed right into my spread legs. I had long, pointed beaks inside me and had my vagina smeared with cold, blue paint to check for abrasions.

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Naturally, there are dipshits in some comments section saying she is partially, if not completely responsible.



Hopefully she can feel the love and respect and healing thoughts coming from the part of our species who are NOT sick sub-humans.

Orrex

(63,209 posts)
8. Holy shit--where did she find the courage to read that?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:16 PM - Edit history (1)

This suggests amazing force of will and a strength of character that won't cause her to be reduced to this coddled, over-privileged asshole's target.

She surpasses him in every way, and it's a gross failure of the justice system that the judge care more about the attacker's well-being than about justice.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
5. I'd love to "have a severe impact on him."
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jun 2016

One pointy-toed gothgirl boot straight to the junk, as hard as I can kick (and as a pretty damn serious cyclist, that's kinda hard).

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
9. Probably both
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jun 2016

This s**t needs to come to an immediate screeching halt.

A poor person, or a non-white doing the same thing would be buried under the jail, while this privileged piece of trash walks almost free with less time than someone selling individual cigarettes.

athena

(4,187 posts)
7. Rape, of course, does not have a "severe impact" on the victim.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jun 2016

It's amazing that the judge thinks the criminal's life is more valuable than the life of his victim. The poor young woman will probably need therapy for years to get over this, while the criminal goes on to destroy more lives.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
10. If I were her father
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jun 2016

I would be waiting outside of the prison on his release day so he could finish his term properly.

This judge deserves time for handing down such a light sentence.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
22. Also, we are becoming comfortable with living in a plutocracy. Judges seem to like it.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jun 2016

We are accepting affluenza as an actual excuse for criminal activity in normal society.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
12. Hey Judge Persky - maybe you haven't seen this -
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jun 2016

Aaron is campaigning for re-election in the Santa Clara County Election on Tuesday June 7, 2016. A petition called "Santa Clara, vote Rape Judge OUT" was created to encourage people to come out and vote against him for his poor handling of the Brock Turner case.

Just like Turner - Persky should not be able to hand down another sentence that would rape a victim twice!

"You took away my worth, my privacy, my energy, my time, my safety, my intimacy, my confidence, my own voice, until today," she said, reportedly directly to Turner. "I am a human being who has been irreversibly hurt." And yet it's Turner who would be severely impacted in his sentencing? Right.



This one is on you California...you have the power to NOT reelect this poor excuse for a man!


 

Actorvist

(29 posts)
18. disgusting. He should be disbarred
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jun 2016

tho then again, I bet he's doing this to lower the likelihood of appeals given the kid's rich parents.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
19. He'd risk being raped in prison
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jun 2016

Would that be justice or "unusual punishment", prohibited by the U.S. Constitution?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
26. My barber's brother was 20 when he went to prison for a robbery
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jun 2016

He was raped every day for the 3 years he was locked up.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
23. Yes, prison rape is horrible. Just like non-prison rape.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jun 2016

I don't joke about prison rape. I don't say anyone deserves it, I don't feel any justice is served by it.

But he still deserves to be in prison for at least a decade. And the judge needs to be removed from the bench. That was a horribly inadequate sentence.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
33. Everyone sent to prison is at risk of being raped
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jun 2016

But I don't always hear it given as a reason why someone shouldn't have to go to prison (and a 6 month sentence would be served in a county jail rather than a state prison.)

I've heard this before - keep the sentence under a year so someone can do the sentence in the county jail and not be sent to prison where they might be raped. It's always a way to keep white people out of prison. A young black man would go to prison for a long time for far, far less than this. But this guy actually commits rape and is kept out of prison because he might be raped.

We need to do something about rape in prison, but that's an separate issue.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
43. Yeah he's the rapist here
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:12 AM
Jun 2016

Why aren't we concerned about the men he'll be locked up with. There are a lot of non-violent criminals in prison. He's actually a violent criminal.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. War on women? Nothing to see here move along...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jun 2016

Meanwhile, the GOP has Man Pig running for Leader of the Free World.

VA_Jill

(9,966 posts)
24. I would like
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jun 2016

to give him a "severe inconvenience".....right where it REALLY HURTS! (sorry, no "kick" emoji)

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
28. Back in the 90s
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:27 PM
Jun 2016

In the UK we had a bunch of ridiculous judgements made my doddery old judges with no sense of what's acceptable today. Judge Aaron Persky doesn't even have that as a defence. He should be kicked off the bench.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
30. Who's to say
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jun 2016

this was his ONLY time doing this? No criminal history my ass. I'd bet the bank this is something he does without conscience.

catchnrelease

(1,945 posts)
31. Biased judge?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jun 2016

This judge is a Stanford alumni and was also an athlete there, so there has been speculation that he is biased towards the rapist, maybe he can even relate to that kind of behavior.

I read her whole statement yesterday and it is really powerful, not to mention heartbreaking.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
38. maybe the Judge did the same to other girls when he was a student there
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:13 AM
Jun 2016

that's why he can relate to the rapist and feels so bad for him.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
32. I wonder if our dear young Brock will be on any list of sexual offenders.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jun 2016

But, of course, such a listing might impact our young friend when he seeks employment.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
42. I saw where his father defended him.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jun 2016

He said his son shouldn't have to pay a long prison term for 20 minutes of action.

Good God. No wonder that kid is like he is.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
46. By his reasoning, we should not imprison murderers
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:23 PM
Jun 2016

It only takes seconds to shoot someone.

Dude, your son committed what a friend of mine calls "Soul Murder".

Is that going to fuck up his life? Good! Rapists need their life to be seriously fucked up in exchange for fucking up hers.

Disgusting enabling of a sociopath.

JCMach1

(27,558 posts)
44. Judge is a Stanford Alum
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.smartvoter.org/2002/03/05/ca/scl/vote/persky_a/bio.html


From his bio... seriously, WTF

A year after returning from Japan, I became a criminal prosecutor for the Santa Clara County District Attorney's Office, where I now prosecute sex crimes and hate crimes. I focus on the prosecution of sexually violent predators, working to keep the most dangerous sex offenders in custody in mental hospitals. I am also an Executive Committee member of the Santa Clara County Network for a Hate-Free Community, where I helped create a county-wide law enforcement policy on hate crimes. In addition, I serve as an Executive Committee Member of the Support Network for Battered Women.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
47. Whoa.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-brock-turner-cory-batey-show-race-affects-sentencing-article-1.2664945

King: Brock Turner and Cory Batey, two college athletes who raped unconscious women, show how race and privilege affect sentences

By Shaun King
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Tuesday, June 7, 2016, 5:42 PM


When Cory Batey was a 19-year-old standout football player at Vanderbilt, he raped an unconscious woman. The ample evidence, including security cameras showing the unconscious woman being carried into a dorm room and cellphone photos and videos of the sexual assault, was clear — Cory Batey sexually assaulted the woman. In April, a jury found Batey guilty of three felony counts including aggravated rape and two counts of aggravated sexual battery.

He was immediately remanded into custody and must serve a mandatory minimum sentence of 15 to 25 years in prison.

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