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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm going there; I STILL think Trump is deliberately trying to lose.
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He's playing a game. Artful, in-artful, it's a freakin' game. He has no desire to be president because that would be WORK. He doesn't even have a campaign operation. He is either seriously mentally ill, or a genius in how to lose. How can a serious candidate do the stuff he's doing and honestly expect to get elected.
He's selling time shares is what he's doing. Tell The Mrs. how beautiful she is, tell the man that his new condo is crawling with chicks, just tell them ANYTHING to get them to sign the purchase agreement. What happens afterwards isn't his problem...except this time, he realizes it will be his problem. He doesn't want this crap. The bombast and hate will intensify, the corporate media will fall in line behind the corporate candidate, and Trump knows it. Play out the game, then blame his loss on "the media" and all the people who hated him. Never his own fault.
Trump does not want to win this.
If I were of Trump's mindset, I'd call for all Trump supporters to have to wear an orange lapel insignia following the election, just so we can ostracize and ridicule them in public.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Only a fool would say the dumb shit that he says, and he's no fool.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)won't put his money where his big mouth is. That's why he has such a small staff, and it's showing. There are so many fires but no one to put them out. He's trapped into a cycle of saying controversial stuff to dominate the news cycle, because he has no other avenue to go down without spending money.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)progressively more stupid as time goes on. He doesn't want the job because that would require real work. He just likes all the attention.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)I think he entered the race just for the attention and never imagined that people would take him seriously. Now, his ego is to big to let him drop out, so he has to lose just to get out from under it.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)After all it was Bill Clinton who encouraged him to run. That stays in the back of my mind.
billymike
(122 posts)Although Breitbart and (I think) Glenn Beck say that Trump is a Clinton plant.....maybe a carrot. But, really, I'd love to know what the two men discussed. Trump's campaign has a guerilla theater flavor to it, yet so clumsy and ham-handed.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Which I simply find hard to believe.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Trump is so impulsive, he doesn't think anything through. I'm sure that he is shocked he is where he is.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Faux pas
(14,672 posts)he announced his run that he and the clintons are in cahoots. The worse he gets the better she looks.
xloadiex
(628 posts)exact same thing for a while. Only I think it was to insure the coronation. They never expected it to go this far.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)enormous ego. Agree that he never expected to get this far. And agree that he wants out. All the shit he's been shoveling is a cry for help. Please hate me. Get me out of this mess.
I think that behind the scenes some sort of financial deal benefitting Trump is in the works. The RNC gives Trump a big wad of cash in exchange for allowing them to bring on board a VP candidate acceptable to the party regulars -- a Kasich type. Then at some point before the convention, Trump bows out citing unspecified "personal and business reasons" and urges his delegates to vote for the VP choice who is nominated by acclimation. The Repukes then unite to take on Hillary in the fall.
I don't think that's too far fetched of a scenario. I think Ryan and Priebus would do pretty much anything to rid themselves of that giant albatross around the party's neck.
Invincibility
(20 posts)He might be one of the biggest real life trolls ever. He ran as a protest candidate and probably had no idea that people would take him seriously. Then to his amusement, the GoP base was actually dumb enough to buy into his troll platform. Maybe he's trying to hand the GoP their worst defeat ever to send some kind of message.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)This campaign seems like a year-long commercial for his brand more than anything.
It still doesn't take away from the fact that this is a phenomenally dangerous choice that puts America at great risk.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)An unbelievable number of Americans love every minute of his schtick.
He says what they think, and acts how they wish they could act.
Xolodno
(6,390 posts)With that said, I'm of the opinion that he thinks his party is so screwed up, he has to burn it down. It's playing so much lip service to the radical religious right wing...its ignoring and at times going against the traditional pro business ideology.
Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)He'll start the excuses as soon as it's official, but look for the #1 reason - "my heart just wasn't in it."
He knows Hillary is going to eat his lunch!
elfin
(6,262 posts)His ego is so massive, all he wants is a win and use the new power to jab at people he doesn't like -- for a while.
Even now, I half-expected him pick up his toys and go home after Hillary blasted him successfully. Losing to HER over any other woman would somehow be the worst loser humiliation of all. He would want to avoid that, even if his excuse for dropping out is ridiculous in the extreme.
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)I've been wondering who is waiting in the wings to step in at last minute. Someone like Newt Gingrich perhaps? Has this been a grand rope a dope scheme from the beginning to slip in someone like Newt who they didn't think could get through the primaries.
I agree...Trump doesn't want to win...but I also don't think he is prepared to lose his fortune and face a lifetime of mockery from the American public. I think he stepped in a pile way too big and can't see his way out. Could a medical emergency be in the wings? Will we see a Dementia Diagnosis?---- It's a way he can save face, stay in the public eye and raise money for a good cause in the future!
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)I think he's trying to weasel out of even running in the general. We don't need them pulling out someone who can beat our candidate on the "newness" factor orbit seeming reasonable for a Republican.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)maybe there's a deal in the works...
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2016/06/why-meltdown-methodtohismadness.html
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)He originally ran for President, so he could brag about running for President, and used some of his demagoguery tricks he learned from reading Hitler's speeches.
Then something happened. He started winning.
Now his monstrous ego won't let him drop out, and won't let him take a dive. He's going to be campaigning to win. He'll have no clue what to do if he does win and ends up in the White House, but he's now emotionally and narcissistically committed to this race. And his narcissistic personality has no idea how to emotionally manage an electoral defeat.
So we must defeat him. Not just to keep his vulgarian little fingers off the nuclear button, but so we get the comedy of watching his reaction to losing the election.
RobinA
(9,888 posts)You can't accuse him of being a narcissist and then say he doesn't want to win. It doesn't work like that. He can't drop out and there's no way he believes he can't run the country. If he wins, he farms most of the actual work out to underlings and just goes around bloviating on his pet subjects, maybe attempts to make a momentous decision every now and then. Hopefully he can be stopped before blowing anything up.
Best he not be given the chance.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)I'm just praying he loses by the biggest landslide in history and takes the down-ballot GOPers with him -- just as freaky Ann Coulter predicted at the beginning.
I'm going to be watching with fascinated horror to see who in elected office lines up behind him, watch them squirm, and who will actually vote for him. That's what I mean by a litmus test for the nation. Who the hell ARE we to let it get to this point?!
If my prayers are answered and they lose big, my second prayer is that we don't let the GOP anywhere near the federal government again until they regain their sanity. But look at the left-left: ready to sacrifice all Democratic gains to prove a point.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Who once pretended to be another person to brag about his power and sexual prowess.
I think he believes in his own infallibility.
Trump thinks Hispanics/latinos, women, and blacks like him.
thucythucy
(8,048 posts)we'll know for sure.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Because American political campaigns are mostly a whole lot of deceptive marketing a master deceptive marketer such as himself can succeed masterfully, magnificently, huuuuuuuugely.
We ought not elect him, be we ought to thank him for the lesson.
DeGreg
(72 posts)Having said that... Perhaps the voters are being kettled by the establishment with Donald's help to drive people to vote for Hillary and to drive votes away from a populist from the left (what the establishment fears most) by having a "crazy" populist right candidate to scare everyone back to "the status quo," or "more if the same" (which includes a war economy all the time).
Perhaps they didn't count on mrs Clinton crapping all over the plan with her reckless sense of being above accountability. I also think the establishment unestimated how easy it would be to take the population for granted. Perhaps we have not wised up enough to vote in our own interests, but enough of us have to put a few wrinkles in the works...