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applegrove

(118,636 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:49 PM Jun 2016

It Was Too Late to Stop Trump Anyway

It Was Too Late to Stop Trump Anyway

https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/10/it-was-too-late-to-stop-trump-anyway/

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Matthew Sheffield: “The time to stop Trump was in the 1990s, when the movement’s intellectuals were busy prostrating themselves before Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell as they sought to remake the GOP into a party for white Christians. The time to stop Trump was during the George W. Bush administration, when Republicans swallowed the nonsense that deposing secular dictators was a great way to promote moderate Islam. The time to stop Trump was in 2009, when Sarah Palin was dumbing down conservatism into an alternative lifestyle that glorified anti-intellectualism. The time to stop Donald Trump was in 2013, when Ted Cruz was opportunistically telling Republican voters that obstreperousness was the equivalent of conservative philosophy.”

“2016 was far too late to stop the Trump Train.”



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Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
3. They pissed off their base enough to provide space for the rise of Trump
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jun 2016

Talk about reaping and sowing...

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
4. Donald Trump was a Democrat and a big donor to the Democratic congressional and Senate
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jun 2016

campaigns during the George W. years and in 2009.

Who was going to stop him, and stop him from what before he became a republican in September of 2009?

applegrove

(118,636 posts)
5. I think the point is that for years the GOP has been destroying institutions and
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jun 2016

how things work, eating everything like a bunch of locusts, that they paved the way for a demagog. Religion is not working as it should. Congress is not working as it should. Foreign affaires are not working as they should. People's brains are not working as they should. All of it thrown out the window in favour of republican power.

applegrove

(118,636 posts)
9. You are being too literate. The GOP paved the way for a demagog by undoing institutions that make up
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:20 PM
Jun 2016

the fabric of the country. They debased it all. For reasons of pure power and money lust. Then along comes Donald, no matter what his past, and steps right into the void and appeals to the base prepped in hatred.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
10. It is terrible writing, and it was the GOP that has been removing secular Muslim leaders for
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jun 2016

40 years, like the Shah?

I think this guy just wrote a silly piece that didn't make sense, he doesn't seem to know what he is writing about and is just throwing a mish-mash of whatever.

applegrove

(118,636 posts)
11. Maybe the secular thing is not so strong. But it was hubris for the neocons to think they could
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jun 2016

remake the ME.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
8. The line about Sarah Palin is effective
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jun 2016

The dumbing down of conservatism has shed any semblance of a logical, coherent point of view. The rise of the Tea Party is directly the result of the elimination of critical thinking by the Republican base. How could anyone with a brain comprehend, let alone understand, almost any speech by Sarah Palin. And Donald Trump is just as incomprehensible. Read a transcript of any of his speeches and I'm certain there won't be any coherence in it.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. Disagree
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:10 PM
Jun 2016

It took only 2 things:

-8 years of a black president

- a candidate who stopped with the dog whistle and is straight up racist.

He is not Anti-choice, pro-small government nor anti free trade. Just look at his recent record. He has no ideology except making more money.

But the republican base at heart really do not care about all that if they can get them an old fashioned straight up racist to vote for.

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