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ghostsinthemachine

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Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:57 PM Jun 2016

It IS the guns, the religion(s), the movies, TV, music


Video games, the television, the games we play, the games we watch, the vernacular, the music, the media, mental illness and hundreds of other things that go into making people psychopathic killers.

Everyone wants to say "it's not that, but definitely this", but it is all of it.

Religious extremists use violence as a weapon against innocent people. All religions, and even non religions.(Yes Muslim extremists are far more barbaric than most).

You cannot say that Christian terrorists are not violent as well. That would be disingenuous. I was raised by staunch Christians and my Father was a very violent man. His favorite song was "Onward Christian Soldiers" which he sang all the time (from the Crusades and celebrates violence). Not just me, but a lot of people back then all they knew was violence. We got beat with belts, rapped in the mouth if we stepped out of line. Most of us have moved past that, but some cultures, especially people that are new immigrants, carry that old school ideas with them.


This guy was in the FBI cross hairs yet was able to legally purchase weapons. History of violence, yet, he could buy guns. Security guard? There is something wrong there. I don't think care about the gun itself, I care more about why this happens. Why we refuse to make it harder to buy guns.

Guy probably witnessed 50k murders and violent acts on TV in his lifetime. The show Criminal Minds (a how to show for serial killers) is on TV 24 hours a day.CSI, NCIS and all the rest of the scripted shows on TV (excluding comedies) are filled with violence. Then there's cable. An orgy of violence.

The commercials are just as bad. During the NBA game, they aired extremely violent commercials for various movies. No plot, no nothing, just the violence. So bad it was, I commented on it. They do that all the time, break into sports programing and give you violent commercials for movies, TV shows and video games.

The movies are nothing but violence. Most of them anyway. When I went to see Star Wars the latest, before the movie they played, in a theater full of children, 15 minutes of violent trailers. Again no plot, nothing, just violence. So bad it was I talked to the manager about it after the movie. Star Wars is pretty violent in itself, but more cartoonist, the trailers were bloodbaths.

The media, they are a big part of the problem. In the hour i was watching TV news today the guy's name was mention a million times and scrolled even more. It is like a fame thing, guy makes his mark in the psychopath hall of fame.

The music, especially rap, is pretty violent too. But that doesn't mean there isn't violent music even from my generation. "down by the River" "Hey Joe" to name a couple of examples. My band wants to do "Down By the River" but I really don't like the violent theme so we ain't gonna play it.(and I kill that song).

Even the vernacular. Right there, above this I used a violent term,"kill". . Killer show. Constant violent terminology. Try thinking about it sometimes, you will be amazed at how often you use violent terminology.

Football. Yep. Violence. Violent men, a violent game, violent terminology. No wonder the sport has so many bad actors.

Video games? Well, that is all they are, from Mortal Combat to GTA, video game violence is commonplace. By the time a kid reaches their mid 20s, he has killed millions of foes in the games.

Now does that mean that every person that listens to "Bring Ya Whole Crew" gonna up and open fire? No, of course not. Play WoW, become a psycho killer? No. But these things get to some people, and deeply.
Violence in this country is celebrated. We have war heroes. We have no Peace heroes. The ones we did have all died in a hail of gunfire. (Bob Marley escaped an assassination attempt).


It is mental illness to. How we deal with it. Take a lil. Trying to get help is impossible unless you can afford it. The stigma hinders people from admitting they need help.

It is everything.
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It IS the guns, the religion(s), the movies, TV, music (Original Post) ghostsinthemachine Jun 2016 OP
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