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http://stfuconservatives.net/post/24682040060Police in Chicago used a Taser on an African-American woman who is 8-months-pregnant because she parked in a handicapped parking space.
Tiffany Rent parked there because she was trying to calm down her 3-year-old daughter. She tried to explain what happened but they wouldnt listen, and gave her a ticket for $200.
The police, who had blocked her in, started insulting her one told her to call Jesse Jackson ............
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/06/tiffany-rent-pregnant-chi_n_1574402.html
Tiffany Rent, Pregnant Chicago Woman, Tasered By Police During Parking Dispute
Posted: 06/06/2012
The family of a pregnant woman who was reportedly Tasered by police Tuesday says they plan to file complaints against the officers who arrested her.
Tiffany Rent, 30, was approached by Chicago Police in the parking lot of a Walgreen's in Roseland late Tuesday night, who ticketed her for parking in a handicapped space, according to WGN. The police report says that Rent tore up the ticket and threw it at the officer, and in the ensuing altercation between police, Rent and her boyfriend Joseph Hobbs, a Taser was discharged. .....
tomkoop
(55 posts)that's all I can say.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)NCcoast
(480 posts)They abuse them with frightening regularity. They use them instead of using their heads to control a situation. I've seen plenty of footage where the person being arrested is simply protesting the situation, not being violent, and they're tased. It's becoming more common and more acceptable and it needs to stop.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)and that's a sad, sad state of our country's affairs.
Can you wrap your head around this truth: we, the taxpayer not the tax evaders like the rich, are actually paying for this type of brutality to be freely perpetrated on us? It's mind-boggling, frightening, and infuriating, and it doesn't serve the image of those who swore to protect and serve their communities, either.
radhika
(1,008 posts)PatSeg
(47,649 posts)police use of Taser guns in the past decade, according to Amnesty International.
If we can't trust police officers with tasers, can we trust them to use any weapon or deterrent safely? There is something seriously wrong with the way we train police, if they repeatedly use taser guns excessively, carelessly, and dangerously. Taser guns could have been a valuable, life-saving tool for competent police officers, so maybe we need to "take away" some of the police officers from the tasers.
The stories don't stop - the elderly, handicapped, injured, children, and pregnant women, yet I've read no stories about how police departments are dealing with this serious issue.
Dena4r
(8 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)The story was first reported on DU last Wednesday:
Kids watch cops Tase 8-month pregnant mom re parking dispute; MSM says no harm was caused to fetus
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002775454
See, e.g., one paragraph from that story four days ago:
Today is Sunday. Today's headline for the previous reported story, "Justice for Tasered 8-Months-Pregnant Woman!", can be viewed as indicating that the pregnant woman who was tased received justice. She didn't.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)the vast majority of them are on roid rage, an authority kick and geneally are narrow minded pricks
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Well, most of them are.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)responsible enough to have them. All we ever hear is about how they misuse them.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)The headline "Police use tazer appropriately to subdue violent criminal" doesn't really grab anyone's attention.
Just like we never hear about Priests who *don't* molest kids. That doesn't mean they don't exist.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)Threatening to use something has a downside too. Because at some point someone is going to call that bluff.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)would warn others to be more careful in the use in the future.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)No, they should lose their jobs if they can't do their jobs, not just their toys.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)I suppose that might work.
Although it seems like if they can't be trusted with a tazer they can't be trusted with a gun either.
Meiko
(1,076 posts)belligerent and disrespectful behavior toward the police should be totally overlooked, right. There is a right and wrong way to deal with police.
frylock
(34,825 posts)up to and including advising her to "call jesse jackson."
fuck tha police, and fuck any authoritarian enabler that would rationalize this kind of behavior from our public servants.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)it's not clear who fired the tazer.
http://www.wgntv.com/news/wgntv-cops-taser-pregnant-woman-after-refusing-to-move-from-handicap-spot-20120606,0,2384785.story
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)According to the story,
1. She either has a husband or a fiancé.
2. She either has a car or a SUV
3. She either was tased or she is merely claiming that she was tased.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)that is: putting "pregnant" and "cops" and "tazer" in the same headline.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Plenty of Black officers harass Black people on a regular basis. Although in Harlem, I have never seen one Black officer in my 15 years here or the other 15 years living in Inwood.
Meiko
(1,076 posts)You can't always tell. All I was saying is that you need to maintain your cool when dealing with cops. They basically hold all the cards during a police stop. Ranting and raving, tearing up the ticket and throwing it at the cop, swearing at them and basically acting a fool is not the best decision the lady could have made. It never does any good to argue with the cops during a traffic stop, it just makes them angry. I know it's hard to swallow but the best thing to do is "yes sir, no sir" sign the ticket and be on your way.
Should the women have been tasered? I don't think so. It seems pretty harsh behavior over a traffic ticket especially on a pregnant woman. She still bears some responsibility for her actions, you have to be civil when dealing with others.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)should be complied with so that an impartial determination could be made according to the facts.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)there is a right and a wrong way to deal with a pregnant woman.
Do you think the pregnant woman was tasered because she was a threat, or because she was uppity?
Do you believe the belligerent and disrespectful behavior of the police towards the family should be overlooked?
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)I don't give a shit if you are calling the cops names and freaking out (rightly in this case), tasers should only be used as a VERY last resort.
My SIL is a cop and her force doesn't really give out tasers except for a very few officers. The normal street cops don't get them. I'm not even sure what the criteria is, but SIL has been on the force for a long time and has been promoted several times and she doesn't carry one. And you know what? They still manage to arrest belligerent people without tasering them. It's lazy, hateful cops in poorly managed forces that use them regularly. I don't know how things are in the US but here when a cop draws (just draws, not shoots) their gun, they have a huge write up they have to go through to justify the use of such force. Should be the same for tasers.
LiberalFighter
(51,170 posts)They probably are too stupid to figure out what the policy should be when using a tazer because they figure it doesn't kill.
It sounds like your police force is using better judgement then what we see in the news.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)in general? Or just uppity, smart-mouthed pregnant women? Or perhaps only black women??
Even if you DO, where is her due process aka her day in court prior to punishment??
(crickets chirping)
Meiko
(1,076 posts)was keep her mouth shut sign the ticket and be on her way, she would have gotten her day in court like everyone else. The cops hold all the cards during a confrontation like this and that's a good thing to know. Tearing up tickets and throwing then at the cops,scuffling with police is always a bad idea. Why purposely escalate the situation.
Should she have tasered? doesn't seem like good idea. The cops used too much force but they are allowed to get away with it day after day. She still bears some responsibility for her actions.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)we are in the presence of teh holy police?
And I think we all know there WAS no scuffle. If she has scuffled with police, she and her fetus would be DEAD.
mythology
(9,527 posts)It is possible to point out that this woman made some suboptimal choices without being racist. But the fact that you immediately leap to that conclusion does say a lot about you.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)have seen more than a little racism and inappropriate conduct on the part of too many police. And I'm a white professional businesswoman.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)vaberella
(24,634 posts)vaberella
(24,634 posts)Are you fuckin' out of your damned mind? For real. Rational thinking will tell you that she would be put into force labor and it puts her kid at risk.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)disproportionately greater than the scar tissue created by the electrocution of an adult.
Organ scar tissues are not beneficial to fetuses, children, or adults.
Organ scar tissues are also not harmless.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)I'm talking about abdominal trauma from the electrical shock that the mother experienced which could affect the fetus. Not to mention just the stress of the situation as a whole can affect the unborn child and lead to early labor, so I don't know what you're on about scar tissue. Even at 8 months that is a direct risk to the child. What the hell does scar tissue have to do with anything?!
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)early labor, that is one harm. But the recognition of that harm does not go far enough. You are overlooking the fact that the Taser electrocutions cause more harm than what is being reported by the MSM, namely scar tissue to internal organs. When a fetus is developing, most of the mass consists of internal organs.
Doctors who treat patients who have suffered electrical shock know that electrical shocks cause scar tissue.
Do you need to see this reported by the MSM in order to recognize the additional harm to the fetus?
Is it your position that you will not consider the additional harm caused to a fetus by a Taser electrocution unless such harm is made widely known by the MSM?
vaberella
(24,634 posts)I was never looking at that particular part of the discussion and by the mere fact that you are focusing entirely on scar tissue and ignoring trauma; I can see that you obviously see that my point is relevant hence the reason you are so quick to dismiss.
And why bring up MSM. What the fuck does the media have to do with anything being discussed here in context to the pregnant woman being tasered. Trauma is not something that is easily apparent immediately and can happen a day or two days later. A pregnant woman in Chicago did lose her baby after being tasered.
The scar tissue issue is something different from emotional trauma that can lead to miscarriages. Although it could be an aspect of abdominal trauma which could have affects on the fetus. I know for a fact fetus' are sensitive since my mother lost my older brother due to trauma and she was in her 5-6th month.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)to it.
The purpose for bringing up the MSM is that some people, who apparently do not focus upon the resulting scar tissue and do not recognize it as a harm, need to get their information from somewhere and apparently are willing to limit themselves as to their sources of information. When someone takes the position that Taser-related scar tissue caused to a fetus is unimportant or not related to the Taser shock caused to a mother, I know that their sources of information is limited. As is their willingness to consider additional information.
Since you adequately covered your point, why would you need someone to echo your point in order to avoid coming back with an insult and claiming that you are a victim of someone who purportedly dismissed the point that you were making?
You don't have to answer. Just consider it a rhetorical question.
Logical
(22,457 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,170 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Methinks she'll end up rich by the time this is over.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)She was 3 months at the time and lost the baby. So this is a serious situation. This is showing that the cops are taking advantage of the tasers they are given.