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Archae

(46,327 posts)
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:31 PM Jun 2016

It looks like we have a Darwin Award here...



Man fatally shot in accident during class at Ohio gun shop

AMELIA, Ohio (AP) — Officials say a man has been fatally shot in an apparent accident during a concealed carry class at a gun shop in Ohio.

The Clermont County sheriff says the unidentified man was shot in the neck around 1 p.m. Saturday and died at the scene. There were about 10 people in the concealed carry class when the shooting occurred at KayJay Gun Shop in Amelia, about 20 miles east of Cincinnati.

According to the gun shop’s website, the class taught basic pistol safety, gave attendees range time and reviewed Ohio’s gun laws.

http://wbay.com/ap/man-fatally-shot-in-accident-during-class-at-ohio-gun-shop/
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It looks like we have a Darwin Award here... (Original Post) Archae Jun 2016 OP
I think they have a problem with the curriculum in their gun safety class. nt Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #1
What's KayJay's refund policy? TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #2
checking to see if the gun was empty? rurallib Jun 2016 #3
Am I now "old" because ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #4
Indeed. In the Internet Age, it's all about getting the most clicks n/t arcane1 Jun 2016 #5
Obviously the shooter misunderstood the concealed portion of the class. nt edgineered Jun 2016 #6
I haven't got a problem with it when they off themselves. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #7
Darwin award only applies if man shot himself. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #8
...and did himself in without having reproduced. (n/t) Iggo Jun 2016 #23
"Ok, we need a volunteer to play the bad guy, so we can practice being good". n/t jtuck004 Jun 2016 #9
Lesson #1 Geronimoe Jun 2016 #10
Lesson #1, don't go to a gun class with 9 people who need a gun class. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #11
Was the shooter a good guy with a gun? dickthegrouch Jun 2016 #12
Lesson#2 sangfroid Jun 2016 #13
They don't know if ISIS is going to attack the store IronLionZion Jun 2016 #17
lesson 3.... paleotn Jun 2016 #14
The victim was the owner of the gun shop, who was in another room pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #15
"Malfunction drill" successfully completed, sir ! nt eppur_se_muova Jun 2016 #20
Why do people find humor in this? sick fucks. nt Logical Jun 2016 #16
Simply examples sarisataka Jun 2016 #21
And on a liberal discussion board. Disgusting. nt Logical Jun 2016 #22
Yes it is Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author anigbrowl Jun 2016 #34
The incident is a living reply to the false claim that having a gun makes you safer. n/t Binkie The Clown Jun 2016 #35
KayJay Gun Shop in Amelia... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #18
Did he get a passing grade? mindwalker_i Jun 2016 #19
Depends on what you mean by passing. sangfroid Jun 2016 #24
idiots Skittles Jun 2016 #25
curriculum enrichment...I wonder if they had to pay extra Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #26
How sad struggle4progress Jun 2016 #27
Man dies through no fault of his own, DU delights. linuxman Jun 2016 #28
Yep Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author anigbrowl Jun 2016 #31
He was in another room, not part of the class REP Jun 2016 #33
Ah, my bad. I mixed it up with a different story I read recently. Sorry. anigbrowl Jun 2016 #36
Easy enough to do REP Jun 2016 #37
Because life is precious ... except when it's icky people who do things we don't approve of REP Jun 2016 #32
No fault of his own??!!! postatomic Jun 2016 #38
He was in another room, not part of the class REP Jun 2016 #39
"I don't particularly like dancing on graves" LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #41
Hmm... sangfroid Jun 2016 #42
The man wasn't even in the same room linuxman Jun 2016 #43
Sorry to be a party pooper.. Matrosov Jun 2016 #40
add today's shooter in Germany to the list Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #44

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
4. Am I now "old" because
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:46 PM
Jun 2016

I can remember when news articles actually covered the who, what, when, where, and why?

Why is it that publishing a "empty" article quickly is more important than publishing a full and accurate article?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
11. Lesson #1, don't go to a gun class with 9 people who need a gun class.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:49 PM
Jun 2016

Really, think about it for a minute. " I'll just load up and go hang with all these other loaded up guns in the hands of people who need a class in gun safety and how to shoot," thinks nobody.

IronLionZion

(45,435 posts)
17. They don't know if ISIS is going to attack the store
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:32 PM
Jun 2016

in a very rural part of Appalachian Ohio. So they must be loaded and ready just in case. After a gay nightclub, a gun store is obviously the next target of the caliphate.


pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
15. The victim was the owner of the gun shop, who was in another room
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:31 PM
Jun 2016
Clermont Co. gun shop owner killed in 'accidental' shooting
Patrick Brennan and Cameron Knight, 6:23 p.m. EDT June 18, 2016

The owner of a Monroe Township gun shop was fatally shot Saturday afternoon when a student in a concealed carry permit class accidentally discharged a weapon, the Clermont County Sheriff's Office said.

James Baker, 64, was shot in the neck and pronounced dead just before 1 p.m. at his KayJay Gun Shop at 3023 Lindale-Mt. Holly Road, the sheriff's office said in a news release. He was struck by a bullet that was fired by a class participant while practicing weapon malfunction drills.

The sheriff's office reported about 10 people were taking the class in a room adjacent to where Baker was sitting.

...

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/06/18/police-1-dead-accidental-clermont-co-gun-shop-shooting/86085726/

sarisataka

(18,635 posts)
21. Simply examples
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:50 AM
Jun 2016

Of double standards and flexible ethics. Some people only need to know one thing about a person and it changes the death from tragic to jovial.

Response to Logical (Reply #16)

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
18. KayJay Gun Shop in Amelia...
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:38 PM
Jun 2016

You can call it Kay, or you can call it Jay, you can even call it KayJay, but don't ya call it Kay's and Jay's Gun Shop and Shooting Range.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
26. curriculum enrichment...I wonder if they had to pay extra
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:25 PM
Jun 2016

they got
1) to see the damage from guns at first hand
2) to experience talking to police about the aftermath of a shooting
3) at least one of them, experienced murdering someone else

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
28. Man dies through no fault of his own, DU delights.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jun 2016

I wonder how many of the entertained in this thread railed on about how "Gun owners don't care about peoples' deaths!"

I guess it has to be the right death.




Response to linuxman (Reply #28)

REP

(21,691 posts)
33. He was in another room, not part of the class
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:48 PM
Jun 2016
Clermont Co. gun shop owner killed in 'accidental' shooting
Patrick Brennan and Cameron Knight, 6:23 p.m. EDT June 18, 2016

The owner of a Monroe Township gun shop was fatally shot Saturday afternoon when a student in a concealed carry permit class accidentally discharged a weapon, the Clermont County Sheriff's Office said.

James Baker, 64, was shot in the neck and pronounced dead just before 1 p.m. at his KayJay Gun Shop at 3023 Lindale-Mt. Holly Road, the sheriff's office said in a news release. He was struck by a bullet that was fired by a class participant while practicing weapon malfunction drills.

The sheriff's office reported about 10 people were taking the class in a room adjacent to where Baker was sitting.


...

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/06/18/police-1-dead-accidental-clermont-co-gun-shop-shooting/86085726/

REP

(21,691 posts)
37. Easy enough to do
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:53 PM
Jun 2016

I'd possibly fault the range master but certainly not the victim. I say "possibly" in case the range master did check to make sure every gun was unloaded and the student reloaded surreptitiously; otherwise, FAULT.

REP

(21,691 posts)
32. Because life is precious ... except when it's icky people who do things we don't approve of
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:47 PM
Jun 2016

Maybe this 64 year old shop owner was also an overweight smoker. Then he would've really been asking for it, in that other room away from the class.

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
38. No fault of his own??!!!
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jun 2016

I don't particularly like dancing on graves but I do appreciate a good irony now and then. And if we break it down, even under an apparent controlled situation guns kill. That's what I got out of this. Guns suck.

REP

(21,691 posts)
39. He was in another room, not part of the class
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:03 PM
Jun 2016
Clermont Co. gun shop owner killed in 'accidental' shooting
Patrick Brennan and Cameron Knight, 6:23 p.m. EDT June 18, 2016

The owner of a Monroe Township gun shop was fatally shot Saturday afternoon when a student in a concealed carry permit class accidentally discharged a weapon, the Clermont County Sheriff's Office said.

James Baker, 64, was shot in the neck and pronounced dead just before 1 p.m. at his KayJay Gun Shop at 3023 Lindale-Mt. Holly Road, the sheriff's office said in a news release. He was struck by a bullet that was fired by a class participant while practicing weapon malfunction drills.

The sheriff's office reported about 10 people were taking the class in a room adjacent to where Baker was sitting.


...

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/06/18/police-1-dead-accidental-clermont-co-gun-shop-shooting/86085726/

 

sangfroid

(212 posts)
42. Hmm...
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:49 AM
Jun 2016

You might wish to return to the OP. The Darwin Prize is a faux award given to those who die in a spectacularly stupid or foolish manner. Anyone who sees the words "Darwin Prize" should expect to see some gallows humor.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
43. The man wasn't even in the same room
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:08 AM
Jun 2016

And was killed by someone else.

Hyuk, hyuk, hyuk, hyuk...

Disgusting.

 

Matrosov

(1,098 posts)
40. Sorry to be a party pooper..
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jun 2016

..and I know there is a certain amount of irony in me defending this man, seeing how much I usually rage against firearms.

The reality is, he wasn't shot and killed through his own negligence. In fact, he wasn't even shot and killed through the negligence of someone in the same room.

He was sitting in an adjacent room, and one of the students forgot to clear his weapon before engaging in the lessons. That student pulled the trigger, and the bullet passed through the wall and hit the owner in the neck.

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