This idea that Americans can't be an Islamic terrorist is BS

[B2G]

I have no idea where is came from, but it's flat out wrong and there is ample evidence to the contrary. And it's a dangerous mindset.

Read through this and then get back to me as to why someone is magically exempt from committing acts of terror in the name of radical Islam, simply based on their birthplace.

http://bipartisanpolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/default/files/NSPG%20Final%20Threat%20Assessment.pdf

[geek tragedy]

1. You have successfully rebutted an argument that no one is making. nt

[B2G]

3. Plenty are pushing this

The first thing they shout is 'he was born here'.

To which I say, so what? What special status does that extend as opposed to someone born in, say, Afghanistan?

[geek tragedy]

4. there are lots of Americans who become terrorists.

from Islamists (al Awlaki) to rightwing militia types (McVeigh) to racists (Dylann Root) to Christian nutjobbery (Scott Roeder, Eric Rudolph)

[emulatorloo]

5. "He was born here" is about Trump's Muslim immigration ban.

That's the context I usually hear it in. As a counter to the bullshit idea that all our problems would be solved if we banned Muslim immigrants.

[B2G]

6. "Homegrown" has become a code word for

not really a terrorist. Not an authentic one anyway.

It completely downplays the threat, as it's intended to do.

[emulatorloo]

7. Disagree. Because Tim McVeigh

and other domestic terrorists.

[B2G]

8. Do you classify Matten as a terrorist? nt

[emulatorloo]

10. Yes.

By his actions.

Definitely a terroristic act.

(That does not mean I think he is an Islamic terrorist, jury is still out on that aspect)

[ronnie624]

12. "Homegrown" has not become synonymous with "not really a terrorist".

I haven't noticed that at all.

And have you ever looked at the risk to the average American from terrorism? It's a matter of basic math. People are tens of thousands of times more likely to die in their cars or in their own home from an accident than from a terrorist attack.

[melman]

11. No one?

You mean except tons of people here pretty much non-stop over the last week?

[treestar]

2. Therefore focusing on immigrants and even refugees

is silly. We can't stop it using the immigration system.

It has also morphed into something that can happen anywhere. Apparently the idea we could fight them over there and stop them from coming over here was wrong.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. Hell, Americans have become expert terrorists. Of all stripes.

We even trained and funded the amateurs we hire to do our dirty work.

[DustyJoe]

13. very true

The operative word thus appears to be the word islamic whether imported, home grown, American born, immigrated etc. , so of course as in Orlando, an American can certainly be an islamic terrorist just as well as one of the 9/11 hijackers, or the San Bernadino couple, or the Boston bomber duo, or the DC sniper duo. Bad part is they're (ISIS) is just warming up it appears.

[MariaThinks]

14. you are right. And many are playing with words to downplay the connection.

[Odin2005]

16. Are you calling federal authorities liars because they don't follow your Islamophobic line?

There is no evidence that Muteen's claims of allegiance are anything more than simple attention-seeking BS by an asshole who wanted to go out in as shocking a way as possible.

[Odin2005]

15. There is no evidence that his claims of allegiance are anything more than attention-seeking behavior

IS and AQ are sworn enemies of each other, an actual militant would not say he supports both.