Sun Jul 17, 2016, 03:20 AM
Liberal_in_LA (44,397 posts)
Heavily tatted White supremacist kills three![]() ![]() Police found the bodies of the two men outside the house at 4006 NW 417th Street, while the woman was dead inside. None of the victims' names have been released, but Sergeant Tony Barnes told the New York Daily News they were all white. Police believe Luyster was looking for something when he opened fire. Police launched an online appeal showing Luyster's tattoos, which includes 'skinhead' scrawled over his abdomen. Adolf Hitler and other Nazi Germany symbols are tattooed on his back. A friend wrote on his Facebook page on Saturday: 'My heart breaks that my comrade Brent Luyster is on the loose with multiple body bags in tow, brother ODIN is calling for you, may you have a proper taking into Valhalla......' Police received a tip and arrested Luyster at 4.15pm on Saturday while he was in his gold Ford Explorer on the Ocean Beach Highway. The Cowlitz County Sheriff's Office issued a tweet announcing Luyster's arrest, adding that he was taken into custody 'peacefully by his choice'. ___!! The 35-year-old pleaded guilty and served 90 days in jail for rioting with a weapon after he was accused of pointing a loaded gun at a black man in a Vancouver, Washington, tavern because he became angered by an interracial couple. He used a racial slur and when another black customer intervened, Luyster started threatening to kill the couple, according to court documents cited by KPTV. The Columbian reported he was involved in a drive-by shooting, taking a motor vehicle without permission, rioting while armed, malicious mischief and theft, among many others. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3694080/White-supremacist-arrested-woman-shot-face-drove-two-miles-convenience-store-wrote-note-telling-police-killed-three-couldn-t-speak.html#ixzz4EeVGFLhV
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Liberal_in_LA | Jul 2016 | OP |
MADem | Jul 2016 | #1 | |
pinboy3niner | Jul 2016 | #2 | |
Motown_Johnny | Jul 2016 | #11 | |
MADem | Jul 2016 | #12 | |
EL34x4 | Jul 2016 | #16 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #39 | |
AgadorSparticus | Jul 2016 | #42 | |
AgadorSparticus | Jul 2016 | #41 | |
eppur_se_muova | Jul 2016 | #3 | |
pinboy3niner | Jul 2016 | #6 | |
LeftyMom | Jul 2016 | #4 | |
grossproffit | Jul 2016 | #5 | |
Warren DeMontague | Jul 2016 | #7 | |
melman | Jul 2016 | #8 | |
MADem | Jul 2016 | #14 | |
heaven05 | Jul 2016 | #28 | |
barbtries | Jul 2016 | #44 | |
unc70 | Jul 2016 | #30 | |
malaise | Jul 2016 | #9 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Jul 2016 | #10 | |
malaise | Jul 2016 | #13 | |
awoke_in_2003 | Jul 2016 | #25 | |
ZombieHorde | Jul 2016 | #45 | |
kentauros | Jul 2016 | #46 | |
oberliner | Jul 2016 | #15 | |
MADem | Jul 2016 | #17 | |
oberliner | Jul 2016 | #18 | |
MADem | Jul 2016 | #19 | |
oberliner | Jul 2016 | #20 | |
MADem | Jul 2016 | #22 | |
oberliner | Jul 2016 | #23 | |
Donald Ian Rankin | Jul 2016 | #21 | |
MADem | Jul 2016 | #24 | |
heaven05 | Jul 2016 | #26 | |
Motley13 | Jul 2016 | #27 | |
rug | Jul 2016 | #29 | |
Ilsa | Jul 2016 | #31 | |
MADem | Jul 2016 | #32 | |
Calculating | Jul 2016 | #33 | |
Ilsa | Jul 2016 | #35 | |
Calculating | Jul 2016 | #36 | |
Ilsa | Jul 2016 | #37 | |
gratuitous | Jul 2016 | #34 | |
kimbutgar | Jul 2016 | #38 | |
Initech | Jul 2016 | #40 | |
TroyJackson | Jul 2016 | #43 | |
Yupster | Jul 2016 | #47 | |
Liberal_in_LA | Jul 2016 | #48 |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 03:39 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
1. Gobsmacked is how I feel, reading that and seeing those images.
What kind of lunatic does that kind of shit?
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Response to MADem (Reply #1)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 03:43 AM
pinboy3niner (53,339 posts)
2. Thank God he didn't get promoted from Trump's short list
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Response to MADem (Reply #1)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 05:56 AM
Motown_Johnny (22,308 posts)
11. The kind that has nothing in his life to be proud of other than the color of his skin.
If he had ever done anything meaningful during his entire life, he couldn't possibly be like that. |
Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #11)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 05:59 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
12. I have to wonder "Who raised that child to be a man?"
They didn't do a very good job. Or maybe there was just no one there.
It's astounding, though--I can't imagine anyone going to such effort to disfigure oneself so horrifically in support of an idea, particularly such an odious idea. |
Response to MADem (Reply #12)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 07:02 AM
EL34x4 (2,003 posts)
16. Article said his criminal record goes back to 1988 when he was 7.
I'm guessing from the day he was born, the deck was stacked against him.
Anyhow, with tats like that, it was a foregone conclusion he's be spending his life in prison. |
Response to MADem (Reply #12)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 11:45 AM
PatSeg (44,535 posts)
39. Yes
Those tattoos were not some drunken impulse. He has put a lot of time, thought, and effort into his hate.
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Response to MADem (Reply #12)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 02:36 PM
AgadorSparticus (7,963 posts)
42. I think a lot of this sort of racism is something that is handed down from 1 generation tothenext
Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #11)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 02:34 PM
AgadorSparticus (7,963 posts)
41. Exactly this! ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 04:02 AM
eppur_se_muova (35,135 posts)
3. If only there had been some warning signs ... nt
Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #3)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 04:09 AM
pinboy3niner (53,339 posts)
6. It's always the quiet, low-key ones from whom you never expect it. nt
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 04:08 AM
LeftyMom (49,212 posts)
4. What's the over/under on how many porn sites autofill if you put the word "interracial"
into his browser history?
I'm starting the line at 3.5 |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 04:08 AM
grossproffit (5,591 posts)
5. That's the face of pure evil.
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 05:05 AM
Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)
7. Well
One less Trump delegate for Cleveland, eh.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 05:11 AM
melman (7,681 posts)
8. It's a weird thing about the PNW
I used to live in Seattle and there were a lot of these shitbags there. You'd see them all the time at various bars or rock clubs.
I don't recall ever seeing any of them when I lived in Boston or NYC, but in Seattle there were a whole bunch. |
Response to melman (Reply #8)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 06:09 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
14. The Pacific Northwest has a liberal veneer, but they have a foundational history of
racial hatred that is really shocking. Those haters you saw might just be an aftershock of all that.
A little history: ....From its earliest American outset, the Pacific Northwest was long meant to be a land for the white caste. “Whites Only” writ large.
Look at Oregon, for instance. As Walidah Imarisha of Portland State University’s Black Studies Department told me, “Oregon was founded as a state, as a territory, as a white homeland. Folks who answered that call wanted to build their perfect white society.” And not in the same vein of a three-fifths-clause South, where black Americans would be tolerated, if in servitude. Oregon would be different. While the state remained in the Union—and actually proved pivotal to Abraham Lincoln’s nomination on the Republican ticket—Oregon’s founders mentioned racial unity in the state's original documents. To wit, the 1850 Oregon Donation Land Act allowed free land to whites alone. And during an 1857 vote on the constitution’s formulation, some 83 percent of participants voted to prohibit “free negroes” from living or working in the state. Chief Justice George Williams, who later served as attorney general for President Ulysses Grant, summed the sentiment, lobbying voters to “consecrate Oregon to the use of the white man, and exclude the negro, Chinaman, and every race of that character.” According to one researcher, Oregon was “the only state ever admitted with a black exclusion clause in its constitution.” There’s a reason, growing up in Portland, that my seventh-grade teacher informed us Oregon was often considered the most racist state west of the Mississippi. Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/northwest-front-americas-worst-racists-119803#ixzz4EfAXk4oW |
Response to MADem (Reply #14)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:20 AM
heaven05 (18,124 posts)
28. always has been
"whites only". That's why these thugs get off so easy when apprehended as many times as this lowlife thug animal.
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Response to heaven05 (Reply #28)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 05:12 PM
barbtries (27,050 posts)
44. as i started to read his criminal history
it was hard to believe he wasn't already in prison.
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Response to MADem (Reply #14)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:22 AM
unc70 (5,613 posts)
30. So was the Midwest - OH, IL, IN, ...
The "original" NW Territories were initially white only in their state constitutions. Free blacks were not allowed to move to these areas. In the early 1800s, a free black in NC was a full citizen in NC (including voting and jury service), but could not even move to states like IN, OH, and IL.
The division then was not between slave v free states but between slave and white-only states. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 05:17 AM
malaise (252,663 posts)
9. And he was taken alive???
Just asking!
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Response to malaise (Reply #9)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 05:46 AM
Bernardo de La Paz (44,175 posts)
10. He didn't want to get his silly pictures marked up. Thinks he's going to be a king in prison. . . nt
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #10)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 06:07 AM
malaise (252,663 posts)
13. LOL
Ok then
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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #10)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:05 AM
awoke_in_2003 (34,582 posts)
25. As an aside...
the pictures are offensive, but that is some quality work. Too bad the tattoo artist is wasting talent on Nazi imagery.
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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #25)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 11:44 PM
ZombieHorde (29,047 posts)
45. I was thinking the same thing. nt
Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #25)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:42 AM
kentauros (29,414 posts)
46. Yes the quality is great.
Yet I would think for a tattoo artist to even make such imagery, they'd have to be a fellow believer. I can't think of any people I've known with tattoos asking for Nazi symbolism. And the one tattoo artist I've known never offered that kind of thing.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 06:10 AM
oberliner (58,724 posts)
15. This article is from the British tabloid, Daily Mail
They basically take articles written by other sources and re-package them, sometimes without even crediting the folks who did the actual reporting.
Here's an article on this topic from an actual local news source that did some actual reporting on it: http://www.columbian.com/news/2016/jul/16/suspect-in-woodland-area-shooting-had-trial-set-for-monday/ |
Response to oberliner (Reply #15)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 07:17 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
17. The Mail is very tabloid-y, but it is "accessible."
I wonder how many people they have on staff whose sole job it is to comb through regional and local papers looking for stuff they can lift?
They really are skilled at the "aggregation" game. They aren't much of a news source, but they do well at "content providing," if one remembers that they do have a bit of a rightwing bent. |
Response to MADem (Reply #17)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 07:24 AM
oberliner (58,724 posts)
18. They seemed to have mastered the repackaging/aggregation game
And for some reason, they seem a really popular choice of source here at DU, which I don't really understand.
They have this pattern, especially with respect to US stories. They will grab reporting from a few other sources, along with numerous photos from other newspapers (or wire services) and use an attention-grabbing headline along with several bullet points at the top of their piece. All of the information in the article, though, is compiled from actual reporting done by others. it seems like for a local Washington state story, it would be good to use local Washington state sources. |
Response to oberliner (Reply #18)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 07:40 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
19. I can tell you why they're liked here--their stuff is easy to copy.
They don't put barriers in the way of accessing their info--the pics are easy to grab, as is the content, and they helpfully provide the link back to the original source.
Those of us who use them on occasion know that they're wingnutty at times, but, as I said, they're accessible. So long as we know just what they are (and most of us do) it's the convenience. They're also very good at repackaging foreign language material. That's handy for people who don't speak a foreign language and can't read the material in the original form. |
Response to MADem (Reply #19)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 07:45 AM
oberliner (58,724 posts)
20. Makes sense
Though I'm not sure that everyone is as aware of their right-wing slant as you are.
Also, that their front page is usually focused around how much skin various female celebrities are showing. I am not a fan of giving them any clicks, but that is just me. |
Response to oberliner (Reply #20)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:34 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
22. LOL about the skin! They also like to talk about how "toned" and "taut" their abs are!
Of course, this is just for the women--I don't notice any males being praised for how "slim" they're looking, or how lovely their LEGS are! It's like a sad throwback to the dark ages, but I guess it sells papers. They also like to post pictures that are really unflattering, and then pretend to not notice (So-and-So looking fit in skimpy bikini when the poor thing looks tired, exhausted, in need of a break and is completely unaware that they're being photographed)--that way they get the clickbait fights (She looks HORRIBLE!! No she doesn't, she looks great!!!!) in their comments section, and that, of course, increases their ad revenue.
They do make a bundle on the whole body shaming culture, don't they? You're not talking rocket scientists who read that thing, at any rate! I will take note of their slant if I am citing a political article, but for the tabloid-y/lounge-type stuff, I sometimes don't bother. |
Response to MADem (Reply #22)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:41 AM
oberliner (58,724 posts)
23. Yes, indeed
I agree with all your observations.
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Response to MADem (Reply #17)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:26 AM
Donald Ian Rankin (13,598 posts)
21. Never trust anything you read in a British tabloid. The Mail is excrement.
Legitimate British journalism takes place pretty exclusively in magazines and broadsheets. The tabloids are sometimes not wrong, but only by coincidence.
The Telegraph is a right-wing paper, but a respectable one with reasonably high standards of accuracy. The Mail, Sun, Express, Mirror etc, by contrast, are hogwash. |
Response to Donald Ian Rankin (Reply #21)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:56 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
24. They're not "hogwash." They're just aggregators. It's a lot of pop news.
They copied that story about the white supremacist accurately, and provided an accessible portal (clicks for ad revenue, no fees required) to access it.
Try getting an article from the Times of London and copying it here. Not happening. They give you a teaser paragraph, but then you need to pony up the dough to see their content. I wouldn't compare Newsweek or Time to People or Us, either. They're all magazines, but each has a particular audience and purpose. I don't notice a lot of difference between the Mail and the Telegraph, really, save the Telegraph crew do less "entertainment/celebrity" type news. They still mock their opponents with cheap shots, e.g. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/17/labour-in-crisis-and-a-relaxed-jeremy-corbyn-plays-pokemon-go-in/ It is what it is--they're convenient, and they're not quite Fauxsnooze. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:15 AM
heaven05 (18,124 posts)
26. I get disgusted
how animal thugs like this can get away with using a weapon to intimidate an interacial couple, be arrested without being shot right away(white privilege) getting 90 fucking days of jail time and walk. This animal is representative of 99% of chumps for trump. If these thug animals take over, well.............america WILL become a battleground. They should not be tolerated, yet are. All that Odin shit is thug bullshit too. Yeh they belong in valhalla, every last goddamn one of them.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:19 AM
Motley13 (3,867 posts)
27. What a surprise, I NEVER wold have suspected him
His mom probably said, "impossible, he is such a good boy"
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:21 AM
rug (82,333 posts)
29. One less trump vote.
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:28 AM
Ilsa (60,603 posts)
31. What is the word in large letters on the back of his shoulders?
I googled. Looks like it might be RAHOWA: Racial Holy War (RAHOWA, sometimes spelled as RaHoWa) is the belief that White people should unite and undertake a holy war against Jews and non-Whites. The concept was first put forward by Ben Klassen, founder of the Church of the Creator. Since the group's inception, the term has gained a significant amount of popularity within White nationalist terminologies.
This man is evil. |
Response to Ilsa (Reply #31)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:36 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
32. Thank you for taking the time to do that--I wondered, as well. nt
Response to Ilsa (Reply #31)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:44 AM
Calculating (2,580 posts)
33. Good find
I was wondering what that was. The artwork is actually pretty well done, outside of the evil intent. I wonder what happens to somebody in life for them to turn out like this? Daddy left the family? Mommy left daddy to get with a black guy? Rape? Molestation? Or just born as a psycho?
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Response to Calculating (Reply #33)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 10:11 AM
Ilsa (60,603 posts)
35. I had to try various spellings since one letter was partially
obscured in all of the pics. My first two words took me to Middle East links!
I can't imagine how this happens. I guess his environment was awful growing up. But I can't discount the possible influence of DNA that probably had something to do with bad choices by his parents, and then him. I'm not certain, but I think I have been seeing more behaviour linking to DNA over the last few years. That, in and of itself, is a scary thought. We could open a whole can of worms in discussing the impact. |
Response to Ilsa (Reply #35)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 10:16 AM
Calculating (2,580 posts)
36. Yeah, that's a very controversial thing
What if clear genetic tendencies to deviant/violent behavior were mapped out? What do we do with people who are known to have them?
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Response to Calculating (Reply #36)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 10:19 AM
Ilsa (60,603 posts)
37. And my thoughts had not even gotten to that point yet... nt
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Response to Ilsa (Reply #31)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:53 AM
gratuitous (80,047 posts)
34. Useful information
I wonder why, though, in spite of his fellow traveler's urging to die in a fiery shootout, the hero of the story surrendered peacefully? I guess he likes to fight only when the odds are heavily in his favor. Did he soil himself when the cops came, or just collapse in a blubbering heap?
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 11:38 AM
kimbutgar (18,153 posts)
38. One less vote for the cheeto
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 12:32 PM
Initech (95,403 posts)
40. That guy looks like a real winner!
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 02:48 PM
TroyJackson (86 posts)
43. those tattoos look so scary
damn scary news
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:05 AM
Yupster (14,308 posts)
47. Who's next to Hitler?
Looks like Rudolf Hess.
Do neo-Nazis like Rudolf Hess? |
Response to Yupster (Reply #47)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 02:29 AM
Liberal_in_LA (44,397 posts)
48. Yes, looks like Hess