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Josh Marshall @joshtpm 3h3 hours agoa few thoughts on the Trump campaign's new 'wink-wink' stance toward calls to murder Hillary Clinton http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-trump-campaign-is-now-wink-winking-calls-to-murder-clinton via @TPM
As our reporters on the ground in Cleveland are telling us, the "lock her up" theme of the Cleveland convention is pervasive. Signs, T-shirts, memorabilia - it's pervasive. It's not just a chant on the convention floor. The campaign isn't just comfortable with it. They're actively pushing it. We noted earlier that a New Hampshire Trump delegate, who's also a Trump advisor on veterans issue has just said Clinton should be "shot for treason." He's now being investigated by the Secret Service for threatening the former First Lady and Secretary of State's life.
But there's a part of this story that's been overshadowed by the shocking nature of what Al Baldasaro said. That's the response from the Trump campaign. In response to Baldasaro's attack, Trump Campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks said: "Were incredibly grateful for his support, but we dont agree with his comments."
...Calls for violence or the killing of a political opponent usually spurs the other candidate to totally disavow the person in question. Frankly, it's a pretty new thing for a prominent supporter of a prominent politician to call for killing opposing candidates at all. But the Trump campaign is still "incredibly grateful his support" even though "we don't agree" that Clinton should be shot...
Do I think people on the Trump campaign really want to see Clinton injured or killed? No, I do not. But I do think they believe that exciting a climate of agitated grievance, militant anger and aggression helps them galvanize, gain and intensify support. On one and three they're likely right. Just as importantly, they clearly believe that any clear denunciation of the growing chorus of angry and occasionally violent threats would demoralize and dishearten a key part of their base. Trump's brand is dominance and submission. Provocation is his calling card. Calling a pause on their more febrile supporters would simply be off brand and would be hard to clearly differentiate in kind from the campaign-endorsed demand for her incarceration.
I'm not sure I've seen a better example of the wink-wink attitude of the Trump campaign - here not just Trump's impulsive retorts but the campaign apparatus itself - to things that used to get people totally written out of the world of legitimate political discourse. I'm working on a piece about how the biggest legacy of the Trump campaign - assuming he isn't elected president - is the re-normalization of racism and anti-semitism in American political life. This is another part of the same story. We've already discussed the numerous ways Trump has embraced the stylings, policies and speech of a would-be autocrat. He's now moving on to the kinds of banana republic politicking where the cost of political defeat is imprisonment or death or even a legitimate form of 'activism' in advance of the ballot.
read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-trump-campaign-is-now-wink-winking-calls-to-murder-clinton
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TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Or at least gets the shit scared out of him by no-nonsense men in blacks suits and sunglasses.
Fuck him and the barnyard animal he rode in on.
longship
(40,416 posts)I know some amusing memories that I would like to implant in that guy.
niyad
(113,306 posts)is "hanged", but hey, what does one expect from such a hate-filled cretin?) apparently the people in the black suits have not visited him yet, either.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Who will sacrifice themselves to carry out this mission the republicans have given them. The Secret Service needs to have a long talk with Trump, Manafort, and whoever is going to campaign with them.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,804 posts)When it comes to politics, especially conventions, there's always been nastiness. Name-calling and wild accusation are nothing new. But I don't recall ever hearing such a constant litany of thinly veiled solicitations of homicide. This is truly frightening.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)dubyadiprecession
(5,711 posts)NBachers
(17,110 posts)As the multitude of messages sinks down through the entire republican membership, it will fester in brains and hearts until it manifests in the unthinkable. But they are doing their damn best to make it thinkable and actionable.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)When someone makes the attempt, they'll be able to deny knowing him and treat him like a lone wolf, even though the gop was practically brainwashing someone into doing it. They are just like Daesh in manipulating angry, weakminded goobers.
NBachers
(17,110 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)I believe a great number of Trumpbots would like to see harm come to Ms. Clinton
calimary
(81,267 posts)I am certain that some of them want that and want it very badly. Some of them pray for it every day. We've already seen too many news stories verifying that. I'd bet some of 'em are standing in that convention center and roaring "Lock Her Up" this very week.
That contingent has wished for, and prayed for, bad things if all kinds to befall both of the Clintons - AND some of 'em have already wished that on Chelsea Clinton, too.
Anybody remember john derbyshire, who used to write for the National Review? He once actually wrote a column calling for someone to murder Chelsea Clinton because - Heaven forbid - someday when she grows up, she might want to get into politics. That bastard doesn't write for the National Review anymore. That column stunk up the joint so bad even they couldn't stand behind it. They had to disavow it - and him.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)what a disgrace
I see some of the rabid Hillary hatred right here on DU; there's plenty of legitimate criticism to be had but they are over the top
they make me sick
calimary
(81,267 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)and I do think Hillary understands the anger that came from Bernie supporters - hopefully she will appreciate that anger and take some action
Iggo
(47,552 posts)And yes, it's amazing the shit they're getting away with.
Actual fucking death threats. What the fuck?
SheriffBob
(552 posts)The Kennedys, Martin Luther King prove that this kind of hate speech should be severely prosecuted.
Lock him up!
bigtree
(85,996 posts)....from conservatives looking to reopen old wounds, many which held deadly consequence in their time; racism, sexism, homophobia, misogyny, all of the destructive rhetoric revived without concern about the effect (or, with clear knowledge and approval of the potential harm).