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"Tonight, Ted Cruz has no fruits." (Original Post) kpete Jul 2016 OP
Huh? Isn't it the other way round? No good Christian can endorse Trump? DetlefK Jul 2016 #1
Maybe he's simply "unprofessional." LanternWaste Jul 2016 #2
And no true Scotsman takes his parritch without salt? lapislzi Jul 2016 #12
"Any Christian would forgive because the Bible says you know them by their fruits"? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #3
The first thing to know about most political Bible-thumpers auntpurl Jul 2016 #4
Absolutely true. Both Cruz and Trump have nothing but fruits, Hortensis Jul 2016 #5
Exactly right. auntpurl Jul 2016 #6
Lol. Oh, she's the perfect example, isn't she? Hortensis Jul 2016 #10
I was raised Catholic. auntpurl Jul 2016 #11
I can't even pump myself up to "vaguely" Hortensis Jul 2016 #13
I'm in favor of burning bad trees lapislzi Jul 2016 #14
And the Lord said, "Yes, he has no bananas. He has no bananas today." pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #7
Isn't that from Paul's Epistle to the Minions? Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2016 #9
If Ted's got no fruits, what's Donnie got? C_U_L8R Jul 2016 #8
That is one of the funniest things I ever read Justice Jul 2016 #15
Almost lucid! JNelson6563 Jul 2016 #16
Using "Christian man" as a weapon... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #17
Grownups. Iggo Jul 2016 #18
Let me see mercuryblues Jul 2016 #19

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. Huh? Isn't it the other way round? No good Christian can endorse Trump?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:39 AM
Jul 2016

The adulterer, the liar, the braggard, the insulter, the worshipper of Mammon?

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
12. And no true Scotsman takes his parritch without salt?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jul 2016

What load of logical fallacy hooey.

Haters gonna hate. Let's just call all of them what they are: ignorant people with hate in their hearts and very bad ideas.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
3. "Any Christian would forgive because the Bible says you know them by their fruits"?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:46 AM
Jul 2016

I'm pretty sure that passage isn't about forgiveness.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Absolutely true. Both Cruz and Trump have nothing but fruits,
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:54 AM
Jul 2016

some just different flavors. Not that one would expect that self awareness of any of them.

As for the Bible, the ignorance of most congregants of evangelical and fundamentalist religions is off the charts. Wearing the label prominently displayed is enough for so many that church leaders are always writing articles only they read about it.

?



auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
6. Exactly right.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:58 AM
Jul 2016

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Lol. Oh, she's the perfect example, isn't she?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:09 AM
Jul 2016

And the "beware of false prophets" a positively freudian mistake.

I'd forgotten the context, but in my defense I've never been a Christian, ever. Thank you for pointing it out, Auntpurl.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. I can't even pump myself up to "vaguely"
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jul 2016

since I tend to avoid any questions I can't google answers for. A lovely Christian friend did once assure me that she felt I was very spiritual. Very sweet woman, wouldn't allow anything less for a friend.


Not saying I'd become a Catholic, but if I joined a church it absolutely would be one with professional spiritual leaders and a mission for teaching, enlightening, and moral improvement, not just waving the carrot and stick.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
17. Using "Christian man" as a weapon...
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jul 2016

this is the kind of shit that makes me hate them. Who in the hell are they to judge who is christian or who isn't? Defending your family and standing for what you believe in makes him more "Christian" than they are by sticking with a hateful man.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
19. Let me see
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:18 AM
Jul 2016

if I have this right.

Ted Cruz should prove his Christianity by endorsing a man who has cheated on his wives, lies 90+% of the time. Brags about sleeping with other men's wives. Tried to steal a woman's home to build a parking garage. Does not pay people for their work. Hates his neighbor and wants to end help to the poor.

He has clearly broken commandments, 7, 8, 9, and 10. Has a questionable relationship with 1,3, and 4.

Eh. But Cruz is not against Trump over principles, as Cruz stands for many of the same things. He is against Trump out of spite. Which keeps him on the same level as Trump.

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