Stephen Baldwin Says Gays Should Start Their Own Church If They Want To Marry

[Initech]

While attending the Republican National Convention this week, actor Stephen Baldwin offered up some eyebrow-raising views on same-sex marriage.

The 50-year-old “Usual Suspects” star told Katie Couric in a July 19 Yahoo! News interview that his stance on marriage equality was a bit of a “Jedi mind trick.” Same-sex couples should be allowed to marry, he said, if they started their own churches and institutions that give them that right.

“I think anybody should be free to do whatever they want, but they shouldn’t ask other people to compromise what they believe in order to do so,” he said. “I don’t think there should be anything wrong with that at all.”

When Couric pressed him further, Baldwin noted that some of his “best friends in the world are gay folks,” before attempting a clarification that somehow wound up making his stance more convoluted than it had been previously.

“If they believe that they should have the right to have that kind of a union, and they believe that they should have the rights that come along with that,” he said, “they shouldn’t ask, for instance, the Catholic church to change its doctrine to accommodate that.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/stephen-baldwin-gay-marriage_us_57926ae1e4b02d5d5ed18bde?section=

[onehandle]

1. Stephen Baldwin needs to get off my planet. nt

[Major Nikon]

2. He became a "born-again" after doing enough coke to kill a horse

Ever since he makes as much sense as a streetcorner preacher. Must have been one helluva bad trip.

[Monk06]

7. I don't think born again/my church is the only church, evangelicals would agree with him LOL

Interesting idea tho Everyone get married in their own church by inventing their own church

That way MY GOD, which is the way born aginners describe god fits nicely with MY CHURCH

and MY SATAN and MY JESUS

My God would also meet the approval of capitalists who believe all things and relationships between things are private property or relations between individual private property

Worship is then part of a system of exchange just like capitalism

See everyone happy LOL

[pinboy3niner]

8. Church of Ménagerie à Trois for the bestial among us

[Monk06]

18. As i have read the Jewish Protestant early church was taken over in the first century AD by the

Greek Simon Petros and what did we get? Zues.Alcmene and Hercules

A god raping a virgin mortal who gives birth to a super human, who is condemned by his bastardy to perform tasks assigned to him for Dad's ammusment and then is rewarded with ascendency to heaven

A tired and pathetic myth made by men for men because no women will talk with them

[pinboy3niner]

3. Someone shd tell him that equality doesn't require the C. church or any other to perform a wedding

[krawhitham]

4. I love Bender Bending Rodríguez

[Beartracks]

5. Curious when the Catholic Church was asked to change its doctrine...

Sure Catholic public servants are asked, nay required, to follow the laws of their city, state, or Federal govt.... but the Church itself has never been expected to start marrying gays.

Instead of requiring gays to "start their own church" maybe people like Baldwin should stop turning the public square into one.

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[merrily]

9. That was my first thought, too, but

I think the Caltholic has been asked to change its doctrines, as to both gays and women.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/19/yes-there-are-women-priests-and-the-vatican-wishes-there-weren-t.html

https://newwaysministryblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/11/roy-bourgeois-catholic-church-must-change-its-teachings-on-homosexuality/

So have Muslims.

No huge or very powerful movements have been involved, but they have been asked.

And, IMO, they both should be asked to change, and asked often, until they do change.

Meanwhile, I'm guessing Stephen Baldwin is making money out of being a converted celebrity and saying bigoted things.

[mythology]

6. So all I need to do is invent a religion and Stephen Baldwin has no problems with that

being the law.

I am feeling a deeply held religious belief that it's okay to smack him upside the head for being a dipshit. I'm sure I can convince a few people to join my new religion and then we can all go smack him upside the head.

[pinboy3niner]

10. Ramen

[msongs]

11. gee if everyone became their own church nobody would have to pay taxes :) nt

[bhikkhu]

12. Division versus unity

rejection versus acceptance, separation versus brotherhood, traditional bigotry versus equality, etc...the republican stance, clearly.

[NanceGreggs]

13. There's an impromtu game ...

... going around, the object of which is to come up with a celebrity that would have been even less of a "get" than Chachi for the RNC.

Stephen Baldwin!!!

I think you just won!!!

[pinboy3niner]

16. LOL!

His name sometimes turns up in TV listings for B-grade suspense and horror movies. To me it's a nice tipoff that a movie is not worth my time.

[Initech]

24. How about Mike Norris?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028038983

[luckylefty77]

14. There already are chruches with predominantly gay congregations and leaders.

It's just not that many of them.

[LuvNewcastle]

19. There are also denominations that are

mostly heterosexual people that are nevertheless welcoming to GLBTs and perform same-sex weddings. I haven't seen anyone say that any church or minister should be forced to perform weddings that contradict their beliefs. I think that would violate the First Amendment.

[Lint Head]

15. Baldwin is as ignorant as a rock. Marriage is a civil act

not a religious one. You have to get a certificate of marriage from a county clerk. Then anyone can administer the ceremony, if a ceremony is desired, and pronounce marriage. That is the legal definition. That is what insurance companies and inheritance court procedures recognize.

[kwolf68]

29. Ha yea

But them details....

[MrScorpio]

17. A man that stupid needs an MRI to show out why he can walk and talk without any brain activity

I figure that he has barely enough neurons to operate his autonomic functions.

[Solly Mack]

20. I'd ask him to change his last name if I was one of his siblings.

No way the blood is as thick as that man's thinking.

[eShirl]

21. What decade does he think this is?

What century?
What millennium?

[Ilsa]

22. I guess he believes the crap that ministers are forced to marry

Gay couples. No one who is a pastor has to do that, just like they aren't required to marry hetero couples if they believe they shouldn't marry.

For justices of the peace, it's a different matter. They hold a publuc, government job.

[spanone]

23. and i say FUCK STEVE BALDWIN

[Paladin]

25. Time to knuckle-drag yourself into the 21st century, Baldwin. (nt)

[beachbum bob]

26. like WTF...what kind of stupid is baldwin....gays have never asked for church permission

for marriage or unions...its all a matter of PUBLIC LAW

what kind of stupid is this guy???

[gratuitous]

27. News flash, Stephen

Many gays and lesbians have been in their churches from the cradle. Why should we leave because you're uncomfortable? We've been working this field for 40 years, praying, persuading, studying, proclaiming. We've endured ostracism, hostility, death threats, beatings, official condemnation, and worse.

Now, slowly, there's grudging acceptance and still a plurality holding out against inclusion. But the numbers are dwindling, and even you have figured out where things are heading. You don't like it? Why don't you start your own church? You're in the process of losing this battle. We haven't fought for 40 years or more to get inside the church door and serve as who we are just to let some empty-headed bigot tell us to stop. Your attitude is no longer relevant, Mr. Baldwin.

[sarcasmo]

28. Lunatic