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mnmoderatedem

(3,728 posts)
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 07:06 AM Aug 2016

So let me get this straight


John Kerry, who served in Vietnam and legitimately was awarded Purple Hearts, has tea partiers wear purple heart band aids in a mocking tribute to his service and war wounds.

Tammy Duckworth, who lost both legs in Iraq and was awarded the Purple Heart, gets accused by her republican opponent of using her war wound disability as sympathy to garner votes.

Donald Trump, who was a child of priviledge and skirted military service altogether, gets given a Purple Heart which he has no fucking business whatsoever accepting, gets ohhs and ahhs from his supporters.

How do things get that freaking backwards?
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So let me get this straight (Original Post) mnmoderatedem Aug 2016 OP
Wingers live in Bizarro World. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #1
We all live in the same world. Else it wouldn't matter. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2016 #28
You mean this world? LongTomH Aug 2016 #42
Good recap True Dough Aug 2016 #2
Surely you meant to say "this is doubleplusgood"! JNelson6563 Aug 2016 #3
Churchill said SheriffBob Aug 2016 #4
Mark Twain said... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #23
Precisely malaise Aug 2016 #31
"Things" didn't get backwards; RWers, Republicans and conservatives did. baldguy Aug 2016 #5
It makes your head hurt to think about it. liberal N proud Aug 2016 #6
Many of them are scoundrels malaise Aug 2016 #32
And President Obama is blamed for Capt Khan's death C_U_L8R Aug 2016 #7
To them anyone that tells the truth is a liar... Zing Zing Zingbah Aug 2016 #9
Google Max Cleland TNNurse Aug 2016 #8
indeed-- that was so freaking disgusting Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #11
That's who I thought of. AwakeAtLast Aug 2016 #55
he was swift boated SheriffBob Aug 2016 #60
how freaking messed up to be do you have to be to give your Purple Heart to Trump? Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #10
I know, right. People are focusing on the fact that Trump accepted the purple heart, Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2016 #38
IMO, that veteran disrespected his award by giving it to Trump. 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #56
I think the Purple Heart moment mainstreetonce Aug 2016 #12
There should be just as much outrage to the person who GAVE it to him. HughBeaumont Aug 2016 #20
of course the man can do what he like with his medals, but maybe somebody ought to be niyad Aug 2016 #24
IOKIYAR malthaussen Aug 2016 #13
Republicans hate wounded, captured, and dead military. Ilsa Aug 2016 #14
Truth is what you right. 100% kairos12 Aug 2016 #19
I think that was a lesson learned from the war in Viet Nam, BarbaRosa Aug 2016 #26
Still sarge43 Aug 2016 #50
Thanks. In so many other Ilsa Aug 2016 #52
Never bothered me. sarge43 Aug 2016 #53
trump supporters are consumed with hatred. spanone Aug 2016 #15
How did things get this backwards? MynameisBlarney Aug 2016 #16
Backwards indeed. merrifield Aug 2016 #18
It's mind boggling jcgoldie Aug 2016 #17
The GOP uses the troops only when it suits them Politicub Aug 2016 #21
By appealing to low-lifes with a single digit IQ and a head filled with hate. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #22
Not because of the facts, but because of the filters. nolabear Aug 2016 #25
And let's not forget Max Cleland. nt Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #27
Don't overthink it. Just look in that big mirror that reflects all of us. jtuck004 Aug 2016 #29
I'll accept you are at fault. The rest of us, not so much. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #43
ROFL jtuck004 Aug 2016 #48
... 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #49
Trump's not actually wearing it, is he? SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #30
He would have no use for it. lpbk2713 Aug 2016 #44
Wouldn't that be against the law? Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2016 #45
Technically yes, but Trump don't need no stinkin' laws. n/t sarge43 Aug 2016 #51
Al Gore who was wounded was mocked by ReThugs wearing bandaids... Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #33
Actually, they mocked John Kerry with the bandaids. GoCubsGo Aug 2016 #35
Oh yeah, that's right. The purple bandaids were horrible. And the flip flops were childish. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #36
Marketing Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2016 #34
IOKIYAR Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2016 #37
Are there examples... OneGrassRoot Aug 2016 #39
Yep Cosmocat Aug 2016 #40
its called retrowire Aug 2016 #41
He was awarded a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. mobeau69 Aug 2016 #46
That's why the Repubs hate Kerry. He showed true valor and honor. RapSoDee Aug 2016 #59
Because Republicans say they're going to support the troops. Initech Aug 2016 #47
Pukes are exactly like the third grade bully clique. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #54
Let's not forget G.W. Bush, who honorably served his country in the military (sigh) progree Aug 2016 #57
Republicans don't really give a shit about veterans RapSoDee Aug 2016 #58

True Dough

(17,305 posts)
2. Good recap
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 07:16 AM
Aug 2016

And I would add this one, whether you agree with John McCain's politics or not (and I think it's safe to say most of us here do not):


“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured? I like people who weren’t captured.”






Don the Con proves his idiocy once more.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
6. It makes your head hurt to think about it.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 07:24 AM
Aug 2016

The republican world is a very bazar place where up is down (see Rudi Giuliani) and right is wrong and the Duck Dynasty crowd think that a fake billionaire with multiple bankruptcies is going to make America great again.

To create a list of things that the republicans are completely backwards on would take all year. It's as if they stepped into a mirrored universe and night is day.

https://vine.co/v/5Z6ZUliQAUU

malaise

(269,004 posts)
32. Many of them are scoundrels
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 03:53 PM
Aug 2016

just like Don the Con. They want legitimacy so they too can enrich themselves.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
7. And President Obama is blamed for Capt Khan's death
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 07:27 AM
Aug 2016

Even though it happened years before he was President.

The Republicans prove over and over that they're the party of bullshit and lies.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
8. Google Max Cleland
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 07:32 AM
Aug 2016

this is not new but certainly more widespread. If you read the Ann Coulter attack, unfortunately, you will not be surprised.

My dear mother who was a life long GA Democrat went to her grave still angry about how he was treated.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
11. indeed-- that was so freaking disgusting
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 08:47 AM
Aug 2016

I sent angry emails to him and every one in his campaign about that. Not one had the courage to respond.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
10. how freaking messed up to be do you have to be to give your Purple Heart to Trump?
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 08:46 AM
Aug 2016

that defies all commonsense and decency. Wingnuts. Oy.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
38. I know, right. People are focusing on the fact that Trump accepted the purple heart,
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 05:27 PM
Aug 2016

but that cretin would not be where he is now if he didn't have legions of fucked up bigots supporting his every reprehensible act.

3catwoman3

(23,992 posts)
56. IMO, that veteran disrespected his award by giving it to Trump.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:48 PM
Aug 2016

And, the gracious thing for Trump to do would have been to thank the veteran for the thought, but decline to accept it.

Of course, graciousness and Trump are mutually exclusive.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
12. I think the Purple Heart moment
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 08:52 AM
Aug 2016

was worse than the first Khan moment.

I think there should be a lot more outrage about a draft dodger holding up a Purple Heart.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
20. There should be just as much outrage to the person who GAVE it to him.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:24 AM
Aug 2016
Louis The Dorf Dorfman should be allowed to do what he wants with his medals, but this is just idiotic.

Trump exchanged a few words with Dorfman, who was wounded in action on Nov. 22, 2007, in the Iraq War. Trump recalled their discussion at the podium shortly after. “I said, ‘Lieutenant colonel, would you like to say something?’ He goes, ‘No sir, I’d like you to just keep saying what you’ve been saying.’ Seriously. He’s amazing.”


Simply stunning.

niyad

(113,315 posts)
24. of course the man can do what he like with his medals, but maybe somebody ought to be
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 01:01 PM
Aug 2016

checking on him a bit more carefully.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
14. Republicans hate wounded, captured, and dead military.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 08:55 AM
Aug 2016

They have no respect for any soldier, sailor, airman (still
-man?), or guardsman unless they are able to fight.

The injured ones cost too much money for republicans, and are able to testify as to the ingloriousness of war.

kairos12

(12,861 posts)
19. Truth is what you right. 100%
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:17 AM
Aug 2016

When a kid gets a pack of those green army men you don't see any with missing limbs or on a IV pole. Injured service personnel are shunted aside less the world see reality.

BarbaRosa

(2,684 posts)
26. I think that was a lesson learned from the war in Viet Nam,
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 01:26 PM
Aug 2016

keep the horrors of war out of sight from the public eye.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
50. Still
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:28 PM
Aug 2016

Airman Basic
Airman
Airman First Class
Senior Airman

It's also the generic term for any member of an air force

Service men and women are only good for back drops or wall paper. Even fighting doesn't count, re Captain Khan.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
52. Thanks. In so many other
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:30 PM
Aug 2016

Professions, the term "-man" has been replaced by something more gender neutral, and I know I haven't kept up.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
53. Never bothered me.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:38 PM
Aug 2016

I never noticed any lack of a X chromosome

Airperson just doesn't fly (pardon the pun)

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
16. How did things get this backwards?
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:02 AM
Aug 2016

Well, the people that support trump are not terribly bright. They've been fed a steady hate, fear, outright lies and half-truths for 20+ years. That is a BIG part of it.

merrifield

(73 posts)
18. Backwards indeed.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:15 AM
Aug 2016

Another example: Michelle Obama wears a sleeveless dress and the right goes apeshit. Malenia Trump poses completely nude and.. . . . Crickets.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
17. It's mind boggling
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:03 AM
Aug 2016

But I don't think those douchebags called themselves tea partiers in 2004, I thought that was a reaction to having a black president.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
21. The GOP uses the troops only when it suits them
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:59 AM
Aug 2016

When they don't fit their warped worldview, they're all too eager to denigrate them. Makes me angry.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
25. Not because of the facts, but because of the filters.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 01:05 PM
Aug 2016

The filters are getting more and more narrow, shutting out more and more of the picture because people are afraid. The whole purpose of "conservatism" is to narrow those filters, to close out ways of thinking and acting that don't reinforce those filters. Political conservatism uses that for personal gain (as does liberalism in its own ways; let's not be naive about people wanting to get and keep jobs).

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
29. Don't overthink it. Just look in that big mirror that reflects all of us.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 03:21 PM
Aug 2016

We are not only our brother's keeper; in countless large and small ways, we are our brother's maker.

- Bonaro Overstreet
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
48. ROFL
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 07:27 PM
Aug 2016

“The most monstrous monster is the monster with noble feelings”
― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Eternal Husband

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
33. Al Gore who was wounded was mocked by ReThugs wearing bandaids...
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 04:02 PM
Aug 2016

John Murtha was called a coward by "Mean Jean" Schmidt.

Max Cleland had his face morphed into Osama bin Laden and has never been able to revive his political career since.

There has always been a double standard when it comes to Rethugs and Democrats.

More Democrats have served in Congress than Rethugs. And there are more veterans currently serving who are Democrats.

But for some reason, people do not care when Rethugs mock veterans who are Democrats for having served.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
35. Actually, they mocked John Kerry with the bandaids.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 05:04 PM
Aug 2016

But, they did try to minimize Al Gore's military service when he ran for president.

What they did to Max Cleland is unforgivable, and I will never cease to be appalled by the fact that Suxby Chambliss was not only elected in spite of his filthy tactics, but that they gave that shitstain not one, but two additional terms. Sickening.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
39. Are there examples...
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 05:34 PM
Aug 2016

of Democrats denigrating anyone's military service -- let's say in the last 30 years? I can't think of any, but the list is long for the reverse, as this thread shows.

mobeau69

(11,144 posts)
46. He was awarded a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 06:37 PM
Aug 2016

In addition to being a war hero, he's a good man and a great Secretary of State.

RapSoDee

(421 posts)
59. That's why the Repubs hate Kerry. He showed true valor and honor.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 04:48 AM
Aug 2016

And he spoke the truth about the lies that got us embroiled in Vietnam. Republicans cannot abide his personal integrity and bravery, for it casts their fake piety, fake 'conservativism' and fake heroism in the hard light of reality.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
47. Because Republicans say they're going to support the troops.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 06:49 PM
Aug 2016

In actual reality, when it comes to actually supporting the troops, there's no unit of measurement created to accurately show just how little of a shit they give. Especially if it goes against their script.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
54. Pukes are exactly like the third grade bully clique.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:37 PM
Aug 2016

No matter what you do, we hate you.
No matter what we do, it's just peachy.

progree

(10,908 posts)
57. Let's not forget G.W. Bush, who honorably served his country in the military (sigh)
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 02:36 AM
Aug 2016

His father pulled strings to get him in the Texas Air National Guard that had little chance of seeing combat duty. And even then he went AWOL and somehow never completed his tour of duty.

But he is regarded by a grateful American media as having honorably served his country (and Dan Rather gets canned)...

Meanwhile John Kerry volunteered for perhaps the riskiest Navy duty there was in the Vietnam War (with the possible exception of naval aviators) -- swift boats that went up and down the rivers of Vietnam. And gets wounded and gets Purple Hearts.

But the dominant media narrative was that Kerry's military service was sort of a joke, while Bush's service, while not spectacular, was still serving his country in the military.

RapSoDee

(421 posts)
58. Republicans don't really give a shit about veterans
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 04:37 AM
Aug 2016

They just like to USE veterans and "patriotism" as marketing gimmicks, and Trump the new Republican Chickenhawk in Chief is a prime example of that hypocrisy and cynicism.

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