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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:18 AM Aug 2016

My brother is a moron.

He came over to pick some stuff up and he said that Hillary would be a disaster. I asked him why and he said she would start a civil war.

I rolled my eyes and asked him how she would accomplish that. He then told me she said she was going to shut down the NRA. I told him that she had never said any such of a thing. He insisted although he could not tell me when she said it.

Soooooooo. I asked him how she would shut down the NRA. That stopped him. He had to ponder that for a while before he said ' an executive order.' I told him those applied to the federal government and its employees and agencies. I also told him that a judge can issue a stay if they are brought to court and found to be lacking in some manner.

I asked him why he believed everything he heard and refused to find out what was really going on. I told him that there were plenty of arguments to be made not to vote for Hillary but all I hear is made up shit and that she is Satan. He just shrugged.

My brother has a BS in chemical engineering. He used to be able to think critically. Somewhere along the way his mind melted. I am not going to bother to try to correct him. He is certain he is right.

He likes Trump less but that is the only glimmer of sanity.

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My brother is a moron. (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Aug 2016 OP
my brother has a difficult personality MFM008 Aug 2016 #1
He's doing it on Nov 8... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #24
Maybe Ants Crawled Into His Ear And Rattled His Brain.... global1 Aug 2016 #2
Ants that were chemically engineered to eat the common sense out of it mdbl Aug 2016 #11
Obama's fault. nt Cracklin Charlie Aug 2016 #15
I have a friend who is also a moron...... chillfactor Aug 2016 #3
Fox News and RW Talk Radio TomCADem Aug 2016 #4
Meh, just remove yourself for the duration canetoad Aug 2016 #5
I can relate. I have several relatives like that. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #6
There's a lot of morons out there, and most of them have siblings. stopbush Aug 2016 #7
i find a lot of men are very gullible to the brainwashing. pansypoo53219 Aug 2016 #8
i have a brother like that. barbtries Aug 2016 #9
Fortunately, their voting habits are near as shallow as their thinking. Festivito Aug 2016 #10
Did you hear the one about two engineering students at Purdue? B Calm Aug 2016 #12
Always good Bob Loblaw Aug 2016 #13
Or engineers! GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #19
LOL B Calm Aug 2016 #20
As an engineer, I resemble that remark.... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #35
Just like the Kenyan Muslin usurper did? NightWatcher Aug 2016 #14
That always floors me...their never elected war criminal pResident was SammyWinstonJack Aug 2016 #34
Morans gonna moran NightWatcher Aug 2016 #37
Excapt that wasn't * grabbing them. beevul Aug 2016 #38
Good news, bad news Cyrano Aug 2016 #16
I heard the same nonsense from my brother in law. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2016 #17
this is what trump's lies will do....poison the nation spanone Aug 2016 #18
You handled it pretty well gratuitous Aug 2016 #21
Does he have children? roamer65 Aug 2016 #22
I work in an engineering firm and it is amazing some of the shite I hear... madinmaryland Aug 2016 #23
I just stared in wonderment at his idiocy. Are_grits_groceries Aug 2016 #25
Anyone who likes Trump less malaise Aug 2016 #26
I am having a really hard time with low information people that I happen to share DNA with... HipChick Aug 2016 #27
I get emails from them treestar Aug 2016 #29
I get the emails too...some of them how no idea about how goverment is actually run HipChick Aug 2016 #30
There are so many people who think treestar Aug 2016 #28
About how old is he? Zing Zing Zingbah Aug 2016 #31
Ask him how his stay in a FEMA camp was during the race wars. Renew Deal Aug 2016 #32
I empathize with those with inexplicable brother beliefs... northoftheborder Aug 2016 #33
Sorry to hear that, but good for you for your reasonable response. smirkymonkey Aug 2016 #36

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
1. my brother has a difficult personality
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:23 AM
Aug 2016

but politically we are together,
my younger sister is the dumb ass
still waiting for Obama to come and take the guns.
Its her boyfriend...... hes a survivalist type.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
24. He's doing it on Nov 8...
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 11:05 PM
Aug 2016

they should stay home to make sure he isn't successful. Pass the word.

global1

(25,230 posts)
2. Maybe Ants Crawled Into His Ear And Rattled His Brain....
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:27 AM
Aug 2016

this is a reference to the CBS Tv Show called 'Braindead'.

It's worth watching.

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
3. I have a friend who is also a moron......
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:37 AM
Aug 2016

she never explores the possibilities as to why she hates Hillary and can never discuss the issues.....but then she is a FAUX NEWS viewer and believes everything she is told by those idiots. Her stubbornness and lack of critical-thinking skills has really affected our friendship that was once upon a time very strong.

stopbush

(24,393 posts)
7. There's a lot of morons out there, and most of them have siblings.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 04:43 AM
Aug 2016

It's hard to accept that sometimes we're the siblings.

barbtries

(28,783 posts)
9. i have a brother like that.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 05:39 AM
Aug 2016

i think he's been brainwashed by years of fox news, apparently it's on 24-7. we don't talk politics anymore.

as far as the hillary hate, there is a co-worker, very liberal, still pining for bernie (I supported Bernie until it was mathematically impossible for him to win and still support the man and the message). every time we talk i now have to remind him to check her CV - he cannot deny she has the experience, she knows the people personally all over the world, and she has been doing good work all of her life. yes, she is not perfect. but she will hold the country together. can't say the same for drumpf.

i also have a sister with whom i cannot really talk politics, but it's hard for me to believe she would vote for drumpf. i think her blinding came from hate radio. i live across the country from both and love them very much. so it's hard.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
12. Did you hear the one about two engineering students at Purdue?
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:24 AM
Aug 2016

One was talking to the other and sitting on a new bicycle. His friend asked, when did you get a new bicycle? His friend replied, yesterday I was walking down the sidewalk and this beautiful blond came pedaling up on this bike. She jumped off and took all her clothes off and said take whatever you want, so I took the bicycle. His friend replied, smart choice, the clothes probably wouldn't have fit you anyways.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
14. Just like the Kenyan Muslin usurper did?
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:37 AM
Aug 2016

Bill was supposed to take their guns.
Obama was supposed to round them up.
Actually the last Prez to grab guns was GWB (see New Orleans post Katrina).
Hillary won't grab their guns but hopefully try to make it harder for dangerous people to amasse an arsenal and shoot up a movie or school.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,129 posts)
34. That always floors me...their never elected war criminal pResident was
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:54 AM
Aug 2016

the one grabbing their guns...yet no mention of that fact from the Morans...

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
38. Excapt that wasn't * grabbing them.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 02:09 PM
Aug 2016

The orders came from former Police Chief Edwin Compass, and Former Mayor ray Nagin.

Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
16. Good news, bad news
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:45 AM
Aug 2016

Bad news: I have a cousin who's for Trump.

Good news: He isn't registered and never votes.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
17. I heard the same nonsense from my brother in law.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:45 AM
Aug 2016

My question to him...

Are you registered to vote?

Answer...

No

Alrighty then.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. You handled it pretty well
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:07 AM
Aug 2016

Anytime someone makes one of these ridiculous assertions, ask a question. "Hillary's gonna start a civil war!" Calm question: How? What's the mechanism? Walk down that path a few steps together, applying a few facts along the way. At the very least, you won't hear that nonsense anymore as the other person actually figures it out for himself that his fear is groundless. They'll probably be on to something else next time, but patiently repeat the process. If you're going to turn someone from the political wasteland, it takes time. After it happens enough times, they may actually come up with the refutations on their own.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
22. Does he have children?
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 01:12 PM
Aug 2016

Tell him to stop being so selfish and vote for the candidate who will best provide affordable college and better job chances for his kids.

The choice is then pretty obvious.

The civil war crap is nonsense.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
23. I work in an engineering firm and it is amazing some of the shite I hear...
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:29 PM
Aug 2016

I am an engineer, also. It is amazing that these guys are very smart and good at what they do, but when it comes to politics I have heard some of the most bizarre and goofiest conspiracy theories and political views from these guys. It makes no sense.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
25. I just stared in wonderment at his idiocy.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 06:36 AM
Aug 2016

I am also amazed at what he will believe in direct contradiction of the facts. It's as if he was replaced by a nutjob pod person.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
27. I am having a really hard time with low information people that I happen to share DNA with...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:05 AM
Aug 2016

I get these breathless phone calls, with all the incorrect information, that they have picked the surface off, but not bothered to get into the details...its mis-information, pure Trump regurgitation...I no longer have the energy to correct or debate...I just hang up in their ear....maybe after Hilary wins, I will start talking to them again..

treestar

(82,383 posts)
29. I get emails from them
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:10 AM
Aug 2016

from that platform it is easier to push back. I also push "reply all" to see all the others sent it to her get some enlightening on her BS. She actually believes Obama is a Muslim. She has a college degree and it's hard to believe how gullible she is.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
30. I get the emails too...some of them how no idea about how goverment is actually run
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:14 AM
Aug 2016

This is scary in itself...but they think I am the one that is mis-guided

treestar

(82,383 posts)
28. There are so many people who think
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:09 AM
Aug 2016

the POTUS is an all powerful position. They hear how the POTUS "runs the country" and is the "most powerful person in the world." Executive Orders seems like some power of dictation - though they are limited by the law and the constitution and the courts have decided such cases.

My nephew who is young had two opinions 1) The POTUS should have to be from the military and 2) The SCOTUS must have 4 cons and 4 libs and one neutral. I explained the constitution did not require the first and that the way the justices are picked means the second cannot be. This kid is majoring in criminal justice and informed me the exclusionary rule was not right. He has time to learn, hopefully.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
31. About how old is he?
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:14 AM
Aug 2016

I notice some people seem to lose it into when they get older (around the 60's). Happened to my dad (but thankfully he is still voting for Hillary).

northoftheborder

(7,570 posts)
33. I empathize with those with inexplicable brother beliefs...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:48 AM
Aug 2016

My brother is a retired professor of law - brilliant in his field - has written several law books - plays chess online and with a chess club - has other interesting hobbies - photography and gardening.

However he read Ann Rand in the seventies (as did I) but he was persuaded that it made sense; we both grew up in a liberal Democratic home, but now his political views are OFF THE WALL. We try not to even converse or mention politics, but I get a few email's now and then from him that I'm sure come from some far-right source; he thought Obama was a complete fraud. Last week I got an article from him which indicated he does not believe in global warming. Despises Hillary. I can't believe he would vote for Trump, but probably will go libertarian. Living in a southern state for 35 years as also made him racially intolerant. I've also heard intolerant comments about Italians from him. WHY WHY WHY?????? He's my brother -- and we have a lot in common - same crazy sense of humor - I love my sister-in-law- I don't know what she thinks other than being anti-Democrat. Their daughter is a loyal Democrat - very liberal! I just can't figure out what happened to my sibling.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
36. Sorry to hear that, but good for you for your reasonable response.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:09 AM
Aug 2016

I have one republican brother that refuses to vote for Trump, although he won't vote for Hillary either. The other brother has made a complete 180 degree turn from Republican to Democrat which seemed to concur with his level of education from undergrad to grad to PhD. Funny how that happens.

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