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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy brother is a moron.
He came over to pick some stuff up and he said that Hillary would be a disaster. I asked him why and he said she would start a civil war.
I rolled my eyes and asked him how she would accomplish that. He then told me she said she was going to shut down the NRA. I told him that she had never said any such of a thing. He insisted although he could not tell me when she said it.
Soooooooo. I asked him how she would shut down the NRA. That stopped him. He had to ponder that for a while before he said ' an executive order.' I told him those applied to the federal government and its employees and agencies. I also told him that a judge can issue a stay if they are brought to court and found to be lacking in some manner.
I asked him why he believed everything he heard and refused to find out what was really going on. I told him that there were plenty of arguments to be made not to vote for Hillary but all I hear is made up shit and that she is Satan. He just shrugged.
My brother has a BS in chemical engineering. He used to be able to think critically. Somewhere along the way his mind melted. I am not going to bother to try to correct him. He is certain he is right.
He likes Trump less but that is the only glimmer of sanity.
MFM008
(19,782 posts)but politically we are together,
my younger sister is the dumb ass
still waiting for Obama to come and take the guns.
Its her boyfriend...... hes a survivalist type.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)they should stay home to make sure he isn't successful. Pass the word.
global1
(25,169 posts)this is a reference to the CBS Tv Show called 'Braindead'.
It's worth watching.
mdbl
(4,972 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)chillfactor
(7,566 posts)she never explores the possibilities as to why she hates Hillary and can never discuss the issues.....but then she is a FAUX NEWS viewer and believes everything she is told by those idiots. Her stubbornness and lack of critical-thinking skills has really affected our friendship that was once upon a time very strong.
TomCADem
(17,378 posts)Use lose a point of IQ for every hour of exposure.
canetoad
(17,090 posts)Life's too short and all that.
SunSeeker
(51,378 posts)It sucks.
stopbush
(24,378 posts)It's hard to accept that sometimes we're the siblings.
pansypoo53219
(20,908 posts)barbtries
(28,703 posts)i think he's been brainwashed by years of fox news, apparently it's on 24-7. we don't talk politics anymore.
as far as the hillary hate, there is a co-worker, very liberal, still pining for bernie (I supported Bernie until it was mathematically impossible for him to win and still support the man and the message). every time we talk i now have to remind him to check her CV - he cannot deny she has the experience, she knows the people personally all over the world, and she has been doing good work all of her life. yes, she is not perfect. but she will hold the country together. can't say the same for drumpf.
i also have a sister with whom i cannot really talk politics, but it's hard for me to believe she would vote for drumpf. i think her blinding came from hate radio. i live across the country from both and love them very much. so it's hard.
Festivito
(13,452 posts)At least I hope so.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)One was talking to the other and sitting on a new bicycle. His friend asked, when did you get a new bicycle? His friend replied, yesterday I was walking down the sidewalk and this beautiful blond came pedaling up on this bike. She jumped off and took all her clothes off and said take whatever you want, so I took the bicycle. His friend replied, smart choice, the clothes probably wouldn't have fit you anyways.
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)to start the day with a joke at the expense of the Boilers.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,441 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Bill was supposed to take their guns.
Obama was supposed to round them up.
Actually the last Prez to grab guns was GWB (see New Orleans post Katrina).
Hillary won't grab their guns but hopefully try to make it harder for dangerous people to amasse an arsenal and shoot up a movie or school.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)the one grabbing their guns...yet no mention of that fact from the Morans...
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)The orders came from former Police Chief Edwin Compass, and Former Mayor ray Nagin.
Cyrano
(15,023 posts)Bad news: I have a cousin who's for Trump.
Good news: He isn't registered and never votes.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)My question to him...
Are you registered to vote?
Answer...
No
Alrighty then.
spanone
(135,637 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Anytime someone makes one of these ridiculous assertions, ask a question. "Hillary's gonna start a civil war!" Calm question: How? What's the mechanism? Walk down that path a few steps together, applying a few facts along the way. At the very least, you won't hear that nonsense anymore as the other person actually figures it out for himself that his fear is groundless. They'll probably be on to something else next time, but patiently repeat the process. If you're going to turn someone from the political wasteland, it takes time. After it happens enough times, they may actually come up with the refutations on their own.
roamer65
(36,739 posts)Tell him to stop being so selfish and vote for the candidate who will best provide affordable college and better job chances for his kids.
The choice is then pretty obvious.
The civil war crap is nonsense.
madinmaryland
(64,920 posts)I am an engineer, also. It is amazing that these guys are very smart and good at what they do, but when it comes to politics I have heard some of the most bizarre and goofiest conspiracy theories and political views from these guys. It makes no sense.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)I am also amazed at what he will believe in direct contradiction of the facts. It's as if he was replaced by a nutjob pod person.
malaise
(267,845 posts)is still rational
HipChick
(25,485 posts)I get these breathless phone calls, with all the incorrect information, that they have picked the surface off, but not bothered to get into the details...its mis-information, pure Trump regurgitation...I no longer have the energy to correct or debate...I just hang up in their ear....maybe after Hilary wins, I will start talking to them again..
treestar
(82,383 posts)from that platform it is easier to push back. I also push "reply all" to see all the others sent it to her get some enlightening on her BS. She actually believes Obama is a Muslim. She has a college degree and it's hard to believe how gullible she is.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)This is scary in itself...but they think I am the one that is mis-guided
treestar
(82,383 posts)the POTUS is an all powerful position. They hear how the POTUS "runs the country" and is the "most powerful person in the world." Executive Orders seems like some power of dictation - though they are limited by the law and the constitution and the courts have decided such cases.
My nephew who is young had two opinions 1) The POTUS should have to be from the military and 2) The SCOTUS must have 4 cons and 4 libs and one neutral. I explained the constitution did not require the first and that the way the justices are picked means the second cannot be. This kid is majoring in criminal justice and informed me the exclusionary rule was not right. He has time to learn, hopefully.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)I notice some people seem to lose it into when they get older (around the 60's). Happened to my dad (but thankfully he is still voting for Hillary).
Renew Deal
(81,803 posts)northoftheborder
(7,566 posts)My brother is a retired professor of law - brilliant in his field - has written several law books - plays chess online and with a chess club - has other interesting hobbies - photography and gardening.
However he read Ann Rand in the seventies (as did I) but he was persuaded that it made sense; we both grew up in a liberal Democratic home, but now his political views are OFF THE WALL. We try not to even converse or mention politics, but I get a few email's now and then from him that I'm sure come from some far-right source; he thought Obama was a complete fraud. Last week I got an article from him which indicated he does not believe in global warming. Despises Hillary. I can't believe he would vote for Trump, but probably will go libertarian. Living in a southern state for 35 years as also made him racially intolerant. I've also heard intolerant comments about Italians from him. WHY WHY WHY?????? He's my brother -- and we have a lot in common - same crazy sense of humor - I love my sister-in-law- I don't know what she thinks other than being anti-Democrat. Their daughter is a loyal Democrat - very liberal! I just can't figure out what happened to my sibling.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I have one republican brother that refuses to vote for Trump, although he won't vote for Hillary either. The other brother has made a complete 180 degree turn from Republican to Democrat which seemed to concur with his level of education from undergrad to grad to PhD. Funny how that happens.