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Omaha suburbs complaining about potholes, city converts them to dirt roads. No money to fix roads. (Original Post) vinny9698 Aug 2016 OP
We have grass growiing in our streets. deminks Aug 2016 #1
Yep, you cut taxes, you have to make up the revenue elsewhere, or cut services. nt raccoon Aug 2016 #2
I lived there for 20 years - the general population is quite vehemently anti-tax. TwilightZone Aug 2016 #3
The "Republican Devolution" coming to a community near you . . . brush Aug 2016 #5
Maybe? imanamerican63 Aug 2016 #4
What my county has spent on gravel over the past 30 years on my country road, B Calm Aug 2016 #6
Must be lovely when it rains Yavin4 Aug 2016 #7
And clouds of dust when it doesn't. ThoughtCriminal Aug 2016 #25
looks pretty good to me, great for drifting :) snooper2 Aug 2016 #8
I'm sure it's Obama's fault. tanyev Aug 2016 #9
Deadliest Journeys should do an episode there, in about 5 years or so. closeupready Aug 2016 #10
Suburbs are expensive to maintain Clouseau2 Aug 2016 #11
The low-density shell game . . . hatrack Aug 2016 #24
Gravel roads are expensive to maintain too. B Calm Aug 2016 #12
Building the New Third World ... GeorgeGist Aug 2016 #13
oh they will love that come the winter then the thaw. nt Javaman Aug 2016 #14
Ruts and mud. Dust the rest of the time. Rock chips on their B Calm Aug 2016 #20
Tax cuts and small, limited government really are great aren't they, Republicans? Downtown Hound Aug 2016 #15
I hope we aren't headed towards being the next Kansas hibbing Aug 2016 #16
This is what happens. Stonepounder Aug 2016 #17
Success! SCVDem Aug 2016 #18
Just to explain this a little Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #19
This has nothing to do with taxes citood Aug 2016 #21
Republicans idea of going back to the good ole days. B Calm Aug 2016 #22
See Republicans? A perfect example of what your no government government gets you. Initech Aug 2016 #23
You'd think some of the residents would have mentioned that Omaha has very HIGH taxes whatthehey Aug 2016 #26

deminks

(11,014 posts)
1. We have grass growiing in our streets.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 07:54 AM
Aug 2016

I assume they will be dirt soon on their own. In Topeka. Same government story, maybe worse.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
3. I lived there for 20 years - the general population is quite vehemently anti-tax.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:08 AM
Aug 2016

They want services, services, services, but don't want to pay for them and don't seem to understand the connection. They'd vote down school bonds, road bonds, pretty much anything that would improve services and infrastructure, but would also raise taxes, even if the increase was minor. The people they elect to office have to pretty much promise to lower taxes at every opportunity to get elected.

Be careful what you wish for - you might just get it.

The funny thing is that there's a massive amount of money in Omaha - some of the wealthiest people in the country live there.

brush

(53,782 posts)
5. The "Republican Devolution" coming to a community near you . . .
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:48 AM
Aug 2016

or to yours if the dunces elect dunces who don't get that roads and infrastructure and all that has a cost — taxes we all pay to maintain roads or we get dirt roads.

Third world status here we come.

imanamerican63

(13,798 posts)
4. Maybe?
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:14 AM
Aug 2016

If they would not have spent the money for a new multi million dollar baseball stadium and a convention center? We would be fix the roads? We had a few mayors who sold out to big money & taxes are skyrocketing!

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
6. What my county has spent on gravel over the past 30 years on my country road,
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:54 AM
Aug 2016

they could have black topped it several times over.

Yavin4

(35,440 posts)
7. Must be lovely when it rains
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:55 AM
Aug 2016

Who wouldn't enjoy pushing your car out of the mud on your way to work in the morning. Think of it as a good workout.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
10. Deadliest Journeys should do an episode there, in about 5 years or so.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:07 AM
Aug 2016

If they want to live like this without the magnificent scenery, fine with me:

Clouseau2

(60 posts)
11. Suburbs are expensive to maintain
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:11 AM
Aug 2016

I googled a bit and couldn't find the article, but I remember reading somewhere an article where the author had analyzed the cost of maintaining the roads in suburbs (more expensive than in urban areas due to lower population density) and determined that taxes were far too low to cover the costs.

His conclusion was that what's happening (I don't remember the logic he used to come to this) is tax money from newly built areas is being used to maintain existing roads. This will eventually collapse on itself and depends on ever more roads being built to keep everything from falling apart because people do not want to pay the taxes to maintain expensive suburb roads.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
24. The low-density shell game . . .
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 02:32 PM
Aug 2016

As long as the suburbs keep expanding, it works, more or less.

However, to all things there comes a point of diminishing returns.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
20. Ruts and mud. Dust the rest of the time. Rock chips on their
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:09 AM
Aug 2016

new automobiles another plus too.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
16. I hope we aren't headed towards being the next Kansas
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:31 AM
Aug 2016

With our inherited money governor who is a colossal delta bravo.


Peace

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
17. This is what happens.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:42 AM
Aug 2016

First you dumb down public education.
Then you saturate the airwaves with the likes of Faux News, Limbaugh, and Beck.
Then you pitch snake oil about trickle down economics and how our taxes are too high.

And you end up with a citizenry that simply does not understand what taxes are used for. They somehow think (if they think about it at all) that gubmint is just 'taking their money'. They don't understand where the money to fix roads, fill potholes, hire cops and firefighters,drive snow plows, and the like comes from. And if you try and explain it to them they get hostile and figure you are some sort of lbrul effete jerk who just doesn't understand what it takes to make Murica Grate again.

And the assholes in the State Capitol are perfectly content with that.

Omaha Steve

(99,653 posts)
19. Just to explain this a little
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:54 AM
Aug 2016

These areas were built before being annexed years ago. They were rural and outside Omah's 3 mile zoning limit, beyond the city limits. The streets were substandard. No (they were blacktop) concrete, not wide enough, no proper sewer inlets, no curbs, etc.

Blame the contractor for substandard streets to keep the cost per home down.

OS

Omaha's answer to pothole complaints: a new dirt road: http://www.omaha.com/news/nation/omaha-s-answer-to-pothole-complaints-a-new-dirt-road/article_976e04fa-c35f-5027-9d4f-0475fdbc8d6f.html

citood

(550 posts)
21. This has nothing to do with taxes
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:41 AM
Aug 2016

Omaha tax revenues are actually up.

This is a POLICY FAILURE.

The city allowed streets to be built by developers, which were not up to city standards. The city controls the right of way, and should have never allowed this. I have no doubt that the homeowners on these streets pay taxes - and in 2015 valuations and taxes EXCEEDED budget expectations. But they are now screwed, because they trusted a) the developer b) Their elected leaders.

http://www.omaha.com/news/metro/city-residents-at-a-crossroads-over-who-should-pay-to/article_ef906c08-83e6-505e-9636-e2736fe51f9f.html

Initech

(100,079 posts)
23. See Republicans? A perfect example of what your no government government gets you.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 02:13 PM
Aug 2016

Absolutely nothing!

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
26. You'd think some of the residents would have mentioned that Omaha has very HIGH taxes
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:58 AM
Aug 2016

They are ranked in the top 100 counties in the nation in property taxes.

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