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Separation

(1,975 posts)
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 04:29 PM Aug 2016

Slavery in America, was never abolished. Nice little loophole in the amendment.

Ok so here is the 13th Amendment verbatim

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]


Notice how it can be used as punishment for a crime. Now Fast forward to today and the Prison Farms in the South.

American Plantation Prisons

The issue of police brutality and racism is more than what is presented by the media today. This is an American Institution fully supported by our government.

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Slavery in America, was never abolished. Nice little loophole in the amendment. (Original Post) Separation Aug 2016 OP
government allowing a take over by private industrial prison industry. Privatization slave labor Jan lonestarnot Aug 2016 #1
K & R malaise Aug 2016 #2
Or perhaps it's "involuntary servitude" that's being limited by the following clause. Igel Aug 2016 #3
Very good points gabeana Aug 2016 #4
You should read the 2009 Pulitizer Prize winning book Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of TeamPooka Aug 2016 #5
 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
1. government allowing a take over by private industrial prison industry. Privatization slave labor Jan
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 04:47 PM
Aug 2016

leather Brewer and ilk of the same cloth.

Igel

(35,310 posts)
3. Or perhaps it's "involuntary servitude" that's being limited by the following clause.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 06:29 PM
Aug 2016

I'm not sure how to reconcile chattel slavery with most cases of prison labor.

That's the problem with some grammar. Does the modifying clause apply to both conjoined nouns (or verbs) or just the closest? Takes a bit of good will and looking at the legislative history, unless you think that between speaker and hearer it's the hearer who really has the final say. That whole "author's intent fallacy" nonsense often still gets applied (at least by reasonable jurists) to the law.

TeamPooka

(24,227 posts)
5. You should read the 2009 Pulitizer Prize winning book Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 07:02 PM
Aug 2016

Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II is a book by American writer Douglas A. Blackmon.
Great book, very maddening though
https://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Another-Name-Re-Enslavement-Americans/dp/0385506252/ref=mt_hardcover?_encoding=UTF8&me=

PBS made a documentary about it too
Watch it here:
http://www.pbs.org/tpt/slavery-by-another-name/watch/

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