Donald Trump is not Polically Incorrect

[louis c]

Trump always refers to his racist statements as "not being politically correct".

Let me explain my understanding of not being "politically correct". If someone refers to "Native Americans" as "Indians", that's not politically correct. If a 60 year old man refers to a 26 year old woman as a "girl", that's not politically correct.

To say most Mexicans are murders and rapists, that's bigotry. To say all Muslims are terrorists, that bigotry. To allude to a woman's attitude being as a result of menstruating, that's sexist.

To too many Trump supporters, they think that bigotry is some how just not being politically correct and that has set this country back a generation.

Bigotry and sexism are not being politically incorrect, it's hate.

[Scarsdale]

1. Politically INEPT

Face it, tRump is an ignorant fool. What we see is who he really is.

[Cary]

2. "Political correctness" is code for

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"My FREEDOM to say racist stuff." It's a terrible burden, you see, to be nice to people and to be respectful to them. Especially to those GD ******s.

I hate the term "political correctness." I hate everything about it.

[Bibliovore]

9. Author Neil Gaiman had a nice post on the term

http://neil-gaiman.tumblr.com/post/43087620460/i-was-reading-a-book-about-interjections-oddly

[geardaddy]

17. That hits the nail on the head.

Thanks for sharing it!

[Cary]

18. Definitely, and please note that I clarified my post

A term I haven't heard in awhile is "reverse discrimination." What is "reverse discrimination?" Isn't it just being nice to people?

[RoBear]

11. Paul Monette said it best...

"All you have to do to be politically correct is not be an asshole." (I don't have the book in front of me, so that might not be technically precise, but it certainly means what he said)

[cali]

3. Hateful and sick. It has nothing to do with not being "politically correct"

[Cary]

19. Very good.

Now I respectfully suggest you might do a little work with "concern."

[cali]

20. I suggest you work on your snark. It's of such poor quality. Quite sad that you can't

improve on it. You could try, I suppose, but one must work within one's...

[Cary]

21. Snark? Me?

You got it all wrong Cali. I gave you some good advice, from the bottom of my heart.

[cali]

22. ah, of course. then let me suggest you stop trying to make me out as a concern troll

You've repeatedly, if poorly, attempted to do so.

From the top of my head, if not from my heart,

cali

[Cary]

30. "Concern troll?"

Where did I "repeatedly" "attempted to do so?" What on earth are you talking about?

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning or what?

[raven mad]

24. I like snarks. They make good eating.........

[cali]

25. oh dear, you just reminded me of an embarrassing moment

I was at a party many years ago and some guys were talking about skeet shooting. Being an avid cook, I asked how you cooked skeet.

There was silence for a second, followed by uproarious laughter.

[raven mad]

26. LOLOLOLOL! I have gotten more people mad at me for that one!

"Go to the range, grab a dead skeet and boil it".

[awoke_in_2003]

33. You and I

should go snipe hunting one day

[raven mad]

42. I've done them, too - usually at the expense of folks -

who bought it! OH! I have a solution! Skeet and Snipe Stew!!!

[awoke_in_2003]

43. We're going to go hungry

[raven mad]

44. Nah, brought the clams. n/t

[randome]

4. Josh Marshall called it early. Trump evaluates his audience and gives them what they want.

As all good snake-oil salesmen do.

He may not even be a bigot himself but the constant pandering to his audience-of-the-moment makes it difficult for anyone to have an idea of who he really is.

At this point, Trump himself may not know who he is.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

[Nevernose]

10. I've said form the beginning that Trump's not a bigot

He's too much of a narcissistic sociopath to actually care about another human being's race, color, or creed. He's actually one of the very, very few things worse than a bigot.

[randome]

12. I think you have that right.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

[raven mad]

27. A psychopath with narcissistic tendencies? n/t

[raven mad]

5. I'm not sure it's hate.

I think most of it is fear.

[Warpy]

14. Some of it is ignorance and some of it is defiant boorishness

and some of it is resentment from adults being corrected by people half their age.

[GoDawgs]

36. You young whippersnappers with your interwebs and twitterers!

Why, back in my day, I......GET OFFA MY LAWN!!

[raven mad]

41. LOL! You're only allowed to yell that if it's moose.

Cancel the cross fox and ptarmigan.................

[Wounded Bear]

16. Hate is based on fear...

almost always. Hate and anger are secondary emotions that come up out of feelings of fear and uncertainty.

[raven mad]

23. Y'all are right - ignorance and fear..........

I remember my dad during the Cuban Missile Crisis...... THAT was fear. I was all of 9.

[jtuck004]

37. No, it's hate. It's easy to tell. If one is hanging around, beating up on someone verbally or

physically, calling them names, denying them opportunity - that's hate.

If it is fear, they leave them alone and go away.

Calling hate fear is giving these bastards an excuse.

They are not afraid of you, or them - at all. Not even a little bit. They just hate.

[ck4829]

6. Personally, I see the concept of "politically correct" as some sort of strawman

That the right uses to shame anyone who doesn't conform to the "freedom of saying what I want and you should agree with me or you aren't really free".

It seems as though, for far too many people, that anything that anyone on the left of center says or any standard they adhere to must be politically correct. If enough liberals said "kittens are nice" then there would be people who say that is politically correct and the opposite must be politically incorrect. That's an exaggerated example but it goes to the point of what I think this politically correct/incorrect binary is actually about.

That being said, I agree, I think we should assert Donald Trump isn't actually politically incorrect (Just incorrect), we have the right to construct or deconstruct that binary as well.

[raven mad]

28. THAT term came about during Nixon's time.

I'm not "politically correct". But I DO expect honesty.

[lillypaddle]

7. Spot on. n/t

[Roland99]

8. Bing-O!

[Warpy]

13. Actually "Indian" might be more correct than you think

It's what Columbus called the indigenous people he found in the Caribbean. Maps of that time referred to what we now call India as "Hindustan," so the name confusion came much later. Had Columbus been trying to pull a fast one at the court of Spain, he'd have called them "Hindustanis."

There's a lot of argument over the etymology of the word, whether it's the Spanish 'indio" or the Italian "en dio." The former seems a bit more likely since it meant "people of the land." They weren't of god yet, Columbus wanted to convert them.

In any case, it's what they call themselves in the aggregate when the tribe is unknown. As always, the best policy is to call a person by his or her name and respect individual preferences as to general identification.

[63splitwindow]

15. +1 well stated

[unblock]

29. it actually *is* politically correct, in the original sense of the term.

"political correctness" was, originally, simply an effort to align speech and behaviors with political attitudes.

for example, *if* your politics was that women should be treated equally and not demeaned, *then* you should not refer to 26-year old women as "girls".

it was *not* originally meant to apply to bigots and sexists! their politics was in fact, to demean women and minorities, so it was not "politically incorrect" for them to refer to women and minorities in demeaning ways.


what happened was that right-wingers with a martyr complex started taking it personally and resenting it, especially when it started showing up more generally, outside liberal communities. then it became an object of resentment for right-wingers who felt they couldn't properly express their own views, which did not align with the some of what was being presented as liberal political correctness.

so now, the generic term "political correctness" is really being overused to apply specifically to "liberal political correctness" or "egalitarian political correctness".

[kentuck]

31. Absolutely!

The media should not be permitted to get away with calling racism and sexism "political incorrectness".

[tblue37]

32. Thank you. This needs to be said--often and emphatically! nt

[Beartracks]

34. Awesome post. Repubs don't even care to understand what they claim to despise.

You see it when, in support of "creation science," they assert that gravity is "only a theory" in order to invalidate science as knowledge -- because they don't understand scientific theory.

You see it when, in denial of climate change, they assert that the globe can't be warming up since winter is still a season -- because they don't understand climate science.

You see it when, in support of being "politically INcorrect," they assert that bigotry and sexism are warranted -- because they misunderstand the purpose of political correctness.

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[BlancheSplanchnik]

39. ^+ n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

35. Another example: "If Trump talks the way you think it's because you're a racist".

[jtuck004]

38. Just so you know, some of call it respecting other people.The term politically correct is a right

wing term that should only be used by right-wing thugs to further their point of view. Well, them and those who support them.

Many still call it respecting other people, because we are not conservatives, and don't use their language and framing so as not to support them.

[tomp]

40. excellent distinction!

should be noted by the clinton campaign for use in their ads.