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Chairman of FL Black Repub Caucus escorted out of Trump rally-'We don't need black votes to win' (Original Post) kpete Aug 2016 OP
Yeah, that makes Donnbrook's outreach to black voters sooo believable. cali Aug 2016 #1
I didn't see any explanation why the Secret Service was escorting him out... TreasonousBastard Aug 2016 #2
If no one vouches for you and you say you're a big wig... joshcryer Aug 2016 #6
It appears that Jackson is trying to crowbar himself into the campaign apparatus. Ikonoklast Aug 2016 #7
He may have invited himself but common courtesy would be to verify. joshcryer Aug 2016 #10
There's more to this story that isn't being told. Ikonoklast Aug 2016 #12
Really? You think so? joshcryer Aug 2016 #15
He says he was already cleared by the Secret Service to be there. pnwmom Aug 2016 #34
What is the campaign's past actions awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #24
Not necessarily. They also kicked out a young Indian man who was a registered Republican, pnwmom Aug 2016 #32
LOOKS LIKE A MESS FOR KELLY ANNE TO CLEAN UP. SHE'S ON HOUSEKEEPING DETAIL! cynzke Aug 2016 #17
And Trump-sitter duty too! She is tasked with going to every rally Trump does. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #18
He isn't some new guy -- he's the Chair of the Black Republican Caucus. pnwmom Aug 2016 #36
The latest poll shows Rump has 1% of the African American vote Wednesdays Aug 2016 #14
Thank you! Canoe52 Aug 2016 #37
Yes, the Secret Service and local law enforcement agencies routinely remove Chakab Aug 2016 #31
He says he was already cleared by the Secret Service, making this even stranger. pnwmom Aug 2016 #35
Republicans steal African-American votes when they steal elections. Coyotl Aug 2016 #3
Yes there is history of this and nothing done about it Person 2713 Aug 2016 #26
And he's still a trump supporter? Why would this bigotry be so shocking in the Republican Party? Laser102 Aug 2016 #4
Trump doesn't need any votes to win IronLionZion Aug 2016 #5
^^^THIS^^^ BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #8
Hello Log Cabin Republicans !!???!! RapSoDee Aug 2016 #9
Bwhaha B Calm Aug 2016 #11
"we don't need black voters to win..." Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #13
These people have to be the stupidest people going brush Aug 2016 #19
Oh that's Trump's new outreach to PoC workinclasszero Aug 2016 #16
makes no sense getagrip_already Aug 2016 #20
Good malaise Aug 2016 #21
Love It HipChick Aug 2016 #29
Hehehehe malaise Aug 2016 #30
hAH,,, THAT'S AS FUNNY AS,,, Cryptoad Aug 2016 #22
When will AA and Log Cabin republicans awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #23
For the life f me I don't get it. If you have Converative tendencies, fine, but Chakab Aug 2016 #33
He should have replied, "No problem. He won't get any." nt Ilsa Aug 2016 #25
At this rate, Trump won't even get these black votes... backscatter712 Aug 2016 #27
Hey wait SheriffBob Aug 2016 #28
I'm confused OldRedneck Aug 2016 #38

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. I didn't see any explanation why the Secret Service was escorting him out...
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 07:52 AM
Aug 2016

Can the Trump people just order the SS to throw out people they don't like? Or was something else going on?

Anyway-- "We don't need black votes..." Fine, you're getting even less of them now.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
6. If no one vouches for you and you say you're a big wig...
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:01 AM
Aug 2016

...the SS isn't going to sit around and do credentials checks or check your LinkedIn, they're going to kindly take you off the premises.

As far as the SS was concerned he was someone claiming to be the chair of the Black Republican Caucus and no one would vouch for him therefore even if he was, he didn't belong or wasn't wanted.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
7. It appears that Jackson is trying to crowbar himself into the campaign apparatus.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:17 AM
Aug 2016

And the campaign declined to bring him on board.

No credentials, sorry, you aren't allowed to be here.

Looks like a young guy trying to become someone important in Republican circles by piggybacking onto the Trump campaign and as one of the few Black Trump supporters garner some media attention for himself.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
10. He may have invited himself but common courtesy would be to verify.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:41 AM
Aug 2016

It's likely they viewed him as hostile just by the nature of his caucus and didn't even bother to check who he was.

Outreach fail by the campaign for sure.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
12. There's more to this story that isn't being told.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:46 AM
Aug 2016

One would think the Trump campaign would jump all over bringing on a young, Black pro-Trump Republican in a heartbeat.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
15. Really? You think so?
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:59 AM
Aug 2016

He'd be an unknown variable. He obviously tried to jump a few ladders and just show up, as opposed to going through proper channels.

But they should've still said "hey, let me verify you, contact this person or that person, and we'll see what's up, but you have to understand we don't know you so you're not going to just get automatic status as representing a bloc of people here."

For all they knew he was trying to stir some shit up and being young and new to politics he may not have inviting body language.

There's obviously more to it than either side is telling, but I think the guy was legit and I think Trump's people handled it wrongly.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
34. He says he was already cleared by the Secret Service to be there.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:22 PM
Aug 2016
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/trumps-top-black-republican-in-florida-says-state-campaign-doesnt-care-about-black-voter-outreach-8699767

Jackson's critiques come after news broke that Giorno refused to let Jackson stay backstage at a recent Florida rally and then, according to Jackson, told him flat-out that Trump didn't need black votes.

"The crazy part about it is that the Secret Service had already cleared me to be back there, and yet she made a scene and claimed that she didn't know who I was," Jackson says.

But Jackson says the problems with minority outreach inside Trump's Florida operation go much deeper than just one misstep by Giorno at a rally.

The West Palm Beach native says he had hoped to use his position to help Trump avoid Mitt Romney's missteps in 2012; Jackson thinks Romney started much too late in reaching out to black voters. Jackson says that he believes African-Americans are ready to leave the Democratic Party but that they need a sustained outreach effort.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
32. Not necessarily. They also kicked out a young Indian man who was a registered Republican,
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:20 PM
Aug 2016

from a family of Republicans, at another event.

Seems to be a pattern.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
17. LOOKS LIKE A MESS FOR KELLY ANNE TO CLEAN UP. SHE'S ON HOUSEKEEPING DETAIL!
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:17 AM
Aug 2016

Leave it to a woman to have to clean up the mess!

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
36. He isn't some new guy -- he's the Chair of the Black Republican Caucus.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:27 PM
Aug 2016

Shouldn't that person automatically be important in Republican circles?

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
14. The latest poll shows Rump has 1% of the African American vote
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:52 AM
Aug 2016

and since the margin of error is 9.5 percent, his actual popularity could be minus eight percent.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
31. Yes, the Secret Service and local law enforcement agencies routinely remove
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:19 PM
Aug 2016

people from Trump rallies that the Trump campaign doesn't want there. These people are usually minorities that they assume to be protesters. This phenomenon has been reported for months.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/02/29/donald-trump-georgia-rally-valdosta/81129964/

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
35. He says he was already cleared by the Secret Service, making this even stranger.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:25 PM
Aug 2016
Jackson's critiques come after news broke that Giorno refused to let Jackson stay backstage at a recent Florida rally and then, according to Jackson, told him flat-out that Trump didn't need black votes.

"The crazy part about it is that the Secret Service had already cleared me to be back there, and yet she made a scene and claimed that she didn't know who I was," Jackson says.

But Jackson says the problems with minority outreach inside Trump's Florida operation go much deeper than just one misstep by Giorno at a rally.

The West Palm Beach native says he had hoped to use his position to help Trump avoid Mitt Romney's missteps in 2012; Jackson thinks Romney started much too late in reaching out to black voters. Jackson says that he believes African-Americans are ready to leave the Democratic Party but that they need a sustained outreach effort.



http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/trumps-top-black-republican-in-florida-says-state-campaign-doesnt-care-about-black-voter-outreach-8699767
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
3. Republicans steal African-American votes when they steal elections.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 07:56 AM
Aug 2016

It was the black vote in Cuyahoga County Ohio in 2004, like Florida 2000, when caging the black vote was essential to Bush squeaking close enough to Gore to keep the election in play. Racist election fraud made Bush President.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
5. Trump doesn't need any votes to win
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:00 AM
Aug 2016

because he's going to lose. He's alienated too many Americans. Love Trumps Hate

The irony is there was a time when many Americans "didn't need" the people with last names like Giorno either.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
13. "we don't need black voters to win..."
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:47 AM
Aug 2016

Sadly, that's not the first time I've heard that line in this election...

brush

(53,788 posts)
19. These people have to be the stupidest people going
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 10:03 AM
Aug 2016

If they think there are enough bigoted, right wing whites to win the presidency they have very short memories.

Romney and McCain both failed because they lost the POC vote, badly.

Now they're actively turning away black voters — unbelievable.

But wait, maybe they have a point in this particular case. This guy has to be a little suspect to be cozying up to Trump's campaign. It's pretty well known that that campaign has its share of white racists.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
20. makes no sense
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 10:11 AM
Aug 2016

So even if they have decided they can't get/don't need aa support, why be this racist about it? Every vote counts, right?

Oh wait, this is trumps campaign. White nationalist party......

Nevermind

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
33. For the life f me I don't get it. If you have Converative tendencies, fine, but
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:22 PM
Aug 2016

that doesn't mean that you have to actively participate in a political party that despises you and actively works against your best interests.

It's just bizarre.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
38. I'm confused
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 12:33 AM
Aug 2016

Trump said he would likely win 95% of the African-American vote. What am I missing????

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