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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumshas politics always been full of stupid people?
I mean, people that are unfathomably stupid. Like, it is inconceivable that Trump has any followers whatsoever even STILL at this point in time.
Has it really always been this way?
Im feeling nauseous.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)People are not stupid by nature, it is a difficult process requiring years of continuous propaganda.
liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)It's hard to deny that the stupidity has never been this bald faced before.
This topic was spurred by my first sighting of a veteran's for Trump bumper sticker.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)If you look at it that way, then Trump could be just what Grover Norquist ordered.
The trajectory of GOP voters has been bent on drowning the Fed gov't in a bathtub for a long time.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)My dog is smarter than Dan Quayle and my dog is an idiot.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)mucifer
(23,548 posts)johnson was a drunken white supremest. He was nuts. When President Lincoln died he became president. He opposed the 14th amendment which gave citizenship to former slaves.
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/VP_Andrew_Johnson.htm
I sometimes wonder if my country would be different if Present Lincoln chose a better VP. Maybe not, but ya never know.
cali
(114,904 posts)People view things through the prisms constructed by their experiences.
Warpy
(111,270 posts)Oh, the bigots were always there, they used to call them Boll Weevil Democrats because they were conservative bigots who tried to eat the heart out of any progressive legislation and then voted with Republicans. They were supported by a bunch of bigots back home, but they were largely educated bigots. That's who Nixon successfully courted.
It wasn't until Reagan yanked the real rabble out from under their rocks by bringing in the holy rollers, snake handlers, televangelist true believers, and other religious lunatics that the party really took a dive. Oh, they got elected, but the price they were to pay is now coming due--Trump's Chumps are barely one step above a mob and no one, not even Trump, is going to be able to control them long term.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)talking to a person at work who is a big Glenn Beck fan, who pipes in the right-wing radio whenever possible, and who is always trying to start up political "conversations" (read: rants at people) based on what he's heard...
And I'll say that he is a good guy. He treats people well. He works hard and takes pride in the quality of his work. He has skills.
I generally just let him rant, because disagreeing with him feeds his need to rant. And because I want him to keep showing up and helping me when it comes to getting around bureaucratic bullshit that makes professional life miserable.
Yesterday he ranted a bit. Interestingly enough, he did not mention either presidential candidates by name. That was enough to make me wonder where his head was. I'm still not sure. The thing he was going on and on about that raised my brows was this:
"This country is in trouble. Nobody thinks. Nobody thinks they have to pay attention and think." Now, I was assuming that he meant that correct thinking would, of course, have people thinking like Beck. Because once, about 7 years ago, he told me that he's too busy to figure out everything himself, so he trusts Beck to do it for him.
It has always been this way. People are generally herd animals that want alphas to do their thinking for them.
I've been, this summer, working on a new unit to teach this year about Civil Rights. I've been searching through all kinds of potential resources. Yesterday I watched a BBC documentary on you tube about the history of the KKK that made me nauseous, listening to the people of the time talking, and realizing that their bigotry was considered righteous by supposed thinking people. Realizing that whatever the people in power say IS conventional wisdom. And also recognizing that the Trump campaign is empowering people to bring the worst of humanity out from under the rugs they've been hiding them to give them prime time again.
We see it at work all the time. Horrifyingly, we see it at work in the Democratic Party as well. I can read, every day of the week all year long, posts here defending bad ideas, bad policy simply because a Democratic leader said so. I can find someone coming out to argue for conservative and corporate positions because their candidate of choice backs that position.
Interestingly enough, many of the same things people take sides and engage in right now are very similar to the things they were fighting over 200 years ago. People are people. The smartest people can be filled with hate and ugliness. Cognitively limited people can recognize the value of love. And smart politics has always been about propaganda and spin rather than truth.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And those in-between.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,840 posts)Stupid people are emboldened by having their own TV network and practically their own radio band.