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imanamerican63

(13,798 posts)
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:17 PM Aug 2016

Will Lochte and the other swimmers have the medals taken away after they fabricated their story?

I feel they should lose their medals. They lied and put people's lives at stake. They are an embarrassment for all the athletes who did their best in a world where lying is the way of life and the consequences are minimal.

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Will Lochte and the other swimmers have the medals taken away after they fabricated their story? (Original Post) imanamerican63 Aug 2016 OP
Probably the last Olympics where they preform liberal N proud Aug 2016 #1
While I think they are shitheads, they did win the medals prior to doing their vandalism. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #2
No. stopbush Aug 2016 #3
Whose lives did they put at stake? Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2016 #4
Lochte and his fellow douchebags did get in a brawl... backscatter712 Aug 2016 #12
Have you seen video of this? B2G Aug 2016 #23
Exactly, and the Rio officials confirmed they were held at gunpoint AND paid money! anneboleyn Aug 2016 #29
I know... it's terrible. OBenario Aug 2016 #38
What brawl? LisaL Aug 2016 #40
No. The IOC does not police athlete's personal lives. Nor should they. Takket Aug 2016 #5
If so, when does Hope Solo get disciplined? Bluzmann57 Aug 2016 #6
Why not waterboard them - they're swimmers after all ksoze Aug 2016 #7
Did OJ get his Heisman trophy revoked? milestogo Aug 2016 #8
Tried & Acquitted SoCalMusicLover Aug 2016 #27
And when was the trial for Lochte and the other swimmers? milestogo Aug 2016 #34
Why they are not suddenly not the winners of those events treestar Aug 2016 #9
They shouldn't. Throd Aug 2016 #10
I'm Sure The U.S. Olympic Committee Will Mete Out Discipline For These Guys.... global1 Aug 2016 #11
They should be fined at minimum by the IOC, and made to pay restitution. backscatter712 Aug 2016 #13
Rio forced one swimmer to give 11,000 dollars in order to get his passport back yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #20
To charity. Guess you forgot to include that part. Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #24
Who cares who he was forced to give it to? SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #31
Oh please! A "donation" of $11,000 (!) to a "charity" see he can leave the country?! If the U.S. anneboleyn Aug 2016 #32
ITA. LisaL Aug 2016 #39
Yeah, extortion must be a way of life there n/t SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #30
Seriously. Lochte is an ass. But why people are excusing Rio for blatant extortion is beyond me anneboleyn Aug 2016 #33
No. EL34x4 Aug 2016 #14
This thread is an embarrassment to DU. nt Stubborn Aug 2016 #15
This. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #16
... Stubborn Aug 2016 #17
... Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #18
Wow! imanamerican63 Aug 2016 #19
They earned the medals. LWolf Aug 2016 #21
Swimmers get most of their money from endorsements. panader0 Aug 2016 #22
Arbitrary and ridiculous. They earned medals in competition. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #25
Punish them for being the stereotypical ugly American? MyNameGoesHere Aug 2016 #26
They won their medals fair and square. Greybnk48 Aug 2016 #28
"They lied and put people's lives at stake" - Hyperbole much? taught_me_patience Aug 2016 #35
It is bizarre that anyone would think their medals should be taken away oberliner Aug 2016 #36
Lochte won his medal for being a part of a relay. What about Phelps? mentalsolstice Aug 2016 #37
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
2. While I think they are shitheads, they did win the medals prior to doing their vandalism.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:22 PM
Aug 2016

So, in my opinion only, they should keep the medals.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
3. No.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:23 PM
Aug 2016

How can you take away medals for a relay race unless you take them away from the entire team?

That, and the IOC would think long and hard before doing anything to piss off the USA, which is a major financial supporter of their events.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
23. Have you seen video of this?
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 01:31 PM
Aug 2016

Because supposedly it exists, but I haven't seen it posted anywhere.

They came out amazing unscathed for brawling with armed off duty cops, didn't they? Not a scratch, not a torn piece of clothing, nothing.

I don't buy that at all.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
29. Exactly, and the Rio officials confirmed they were held at gunpoint AND paid money!
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:56 PM
Aug 2016

Lochte may be a jerk and pompous and an ass etc but I honestly don't get the rabid hostility towards him with the media and everyone else hating him, despite the fact that the Rio officials confirmed that the swimmers WERE held at gunpoint by the security guard and paid money (they can be seen holding their hands up and paying money on the video). Of course a crucial three minutes of the video was "edited" by the police before it was shown to the media, which the police chief stated had happened for "investigation" purposes.

Jimmy Feigen has agreed to "donate" $11,000 to a Rio charity so that he can leave the country. Can you imagine what the world media would be saying if the United States detained Olympic athletes from another country for allegedly vandalizing a bathroom, a misdemeanor for which they already paid money ($150 to the security guard who held them at gunpoint),and if we forced one of them to "donate" $11,000 before he could return to his home country? That STINKS of corruption. But the rabid hatred and screaming that the swimmers should have their medals stripped and be scorned and punished for the rest of their lives seems rather odd to me given the ugliness of the entire situation.

 

OBenario

(604 posts)
38. I know... it's terrible.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:29 PM
Aug 2016

You know what the American media shoud do? Bashing Brazil...

Oh... nevermind... I remember they've been doing that for the last 14 years.

Bluzmann57

(12,336 posts)
6. If so, when does Hope Solo get disciplined?
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:39 PM
Aug 2016

She is a disgrace to the USA Women's soccer team and to the USA in general and should be booted off the team immediately for her comments about the Swedish team, which won fair and square. Not only that, she is a domestic abuser. So she should be disqualified for that just as any male would have been (rightfully so).

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
7. Why not waterboard them - they're swimmers after all
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:43 PM
Aug 2016

No medal taken away - its an embarrassment but no one lost a life or limb.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
27. Tried & Acquitted
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:24 PM
Aug 2016

The killer or killers are still out there on some golf course. If OJ were not in prison, he would be searching for them right now.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
9. Why they are not suddenly not the winners of those events
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:45 PM
Aug 2016

and they will have whatever other consequences legally that exist.

global1

(25,253 posts)
11. I'm Sure The U.S. Olympic Committee Will Mete Out Discipline For These Guys....
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:49 PM
Aug 2016

I don't think we'll see any of them in a future Olympic competition. They embarrassed themselves, their parents, their coaches, all the U.S. athletes competing in Rio and disgraced the U.S.

This stunt really took the edge off of the great medal count that the U.S. generated.

And I'm sure that Lochte will not be getting any lucrative endorsement deals.

Maybe - Trump should hire him.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
13. They should be fined at minimum by the IOC, and made to pay restitution.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:55 PM
Aug 2016

I'm not sure what penalties are available. Kicking them off the team, fines, but yeah, Lochte and co. should be punished harshly. They're a real embarrassment.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
20. Rio forced one swimmer to give 11,000 dollars in order to get his passport back
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 01:14 PM
Aug 2016

Brazil is handling this horribly.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
32. Oh please! A "donation" of $11,000 (!) to a "charity" see he can leave the country?! If the U.S.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 04:02 PM
Aug 2016

pulled a stunt like this the international media would be screaming, and rightly so, about blatant corruption. I don't care where they claim the money is going. Do you really think an $11,000 "donation" is appropriate for an alleged misdemeanor act of vandalism (since they were actually held at gunpoint AND paid the security guard $150?!) -- before he is allowed to leave the country?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
39. ITA.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:34 PM
Aug 2016

This guy obviously is able to pay $11,000 to leave the country, but what about some poor schmuck without that kind of money? Per tmz, damage was a small crack on plastic sign. $11,000 could buy a lot of plastic signs.

imanamerican63

(13,798 posts)
19. Wow!
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 01:07 PM
Aug 2016

I asked a question! If you don't like it? Oh well! I won't call you an embarrassment, but hope you have a great day!

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
21. They earned the medals.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 01:18 PM
Aug 2016

I don't think they should lose what they earned. There should be consequences, yes, but consequences related to the offense.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
22. Swimmers get most of their money from endorsements.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 01:24 PM
Aug 2016

Lochte, being the most well known, will lose quite a bit of money.
His rep is shot.
The medals were already won when their national embarrassment
took place. After all the fine athletes and sportsmanship at the Olympics
it is a shame to have these drunken boys cast a shadow on the rest.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
25. Arbitrary and ridiculous. They earned medals in competition.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 02:01 PM
Aug 2016

being a bad person doesn't make the Croatian swimmer faster.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
26. Punish them for being the stereotypical ugly American?
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 02:03 PM
Aug 2016

Lords no, they just got positions in the tRump campaign.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
28. They won their medals fair and square.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:28 PM
Aug 2016

The punishment should be something similar to what would happen to a celebrity tourist; someone who would get a lot of press. But the medals are theirs no matter what.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
35. "They lied and put people's lives at stake" - Hyperbole much?
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 04:21 PM
Aug 2016

It was a minor incident. How about a punishment of cleaning up the piss, public apology, fixing the door, and a fine of $150? Brazil's 11,000 fine is more disgusting than the incident.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
36. It is bizarre that anyone would think their medals should be taken away
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 04:26 PM
Aug 2016

Endorsement deals, yes. But medals?

mentalsolstice

(4,461 posts)
37. Lochte won his medal for being a part of a relay. What about Phelps?
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 05:39 PM
Aug 2016

Phelps and two other men were also on that team. If Lochte were stripped of his medal, would they also be disqualified?

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