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Post removed (Original Post) Post removed Aug 2016 OP
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #1
Attacking the Democratic nominee during the campaign is disgusting. nt pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #18
Bernie is a progressive. Lunabell Aug 2016 #2
Hillary is a progressive. The OP's article is Hillary bashing, from a long time Hillary basher. nt pnwmom Aug 2016 #13
Me too. ananda Aug 2016 #26
. stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #27
he's still alive and in fact he's campaigning for Clinton very soon nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #30
So is Hillary. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2016 #33
Lol La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #35
Good that is what we need stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #3
Disappointing. But not unexpected. nt Buns_of_Fire Aug 2016 #4
Not having Trump! is really what America cares about. HereSince1628 Aug 2016 #5
So The Progressive Platform Coming Out Of The Convention Was.... global1 Aug 2016 #6
Seems like stretching to villify Hillary's administration before she's even sworn in pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #7
Not if we know the established track records of the already-named transition team. nt villager Aug 2016 #37
SSDD. nt MaeScott Aug 2016 #8
Isn't this best suited for JPR? SticksnStones Aug 2016 #9
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #19
Respectfully, I think Clinton has endured enough... SticksnStones Aug 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #25
the OP seems very concerned. stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #10
"four co-chairs" AHHHH! THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE! betsuni Aug 2016 #11
Why are you bashing Democrats? n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #12
The author of the piece was a pledged Bernie delegate. nt pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #14
So I guess he's still fighting the primary. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #15
Appears so. nt pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #16
It takes a villager to keep fighting the primary. betsuni Aug 2016 #17
primary? G_j Aug 2016 #50
Yes, it is. But he's still fighting the primary. He should realize it's over. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #51
lol, "corporatist" is a phony holier-than-thou smear from the primaries. R B Garr Aug 2016 #57
Analysis/opinion. BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #20
Some people .... LenaBaby61 Aug 2016 #22
Looking at Dr. Stein's twitter feed, she seems all het up about Ken Salazar. msanthrope Aug 2016 #23
Hillary Clinton Pissing OFF All The RIGHT People.. stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #24
Is this what Putin says? yardwork Aug 2016 #28
Black's brain is still stuck in the 1990's. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #29
So, it would seem, is this transition team. nt villager Aug 2016 #39
Salazar and Donilon served in the administration of the current president. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #40
Ah, so the writer does have a more recent basis for his critique. nt villager Aug 2016 #41
No, not really. He talked about negotiations with Newt Gingrich during the 1990's. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #43
Their vocal TPP support was suddenly time-ported back to the 90's? villager Aug 2016 #44
Black has been fighting the 1990s for 3 decades now. Stuck in the past. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #45
Again, their vocal TPP support was restricted to the 90's? villager Aug 2016 #46
Really? quickesst Aug 2016 #31
Awww, are you concerned? Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2016 #32
Don't care. I prefer her transition team over Donald's NightWatcher Aug 2016 #34
The author of the piece is a sore loser who is just lying about her. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #36
Where is he actually lying about the backgrounds of the transition team? villager Aug 2016 #38
He is lying about the implications of what ken Salazar may mean La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #42
How is he lying? villager Aug 2016 #47
when you definitely make arguments for which you have no proof La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #49
You're the one definitively claiming he's lying, without any counter-facts for rebuttal. villager Aug 2016 #54
Huffing and Posting has a great record. Home of HA HA Goodman and Stein. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #48
Well lookie here. Solomon's opinion about all things "Hillary" sounds like SORE LOZERISM! misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #55
The post has been alerted on, thank goodness. redstatebluegirl Aug 2016 #73
No surprise here but, deathrind Aug 2016 #52
I'm sick of Blue Dogs SHRED Aug 2016 #53
They do tend to derail "hope" (to say nothing of "change") pretty damn quickly. villager Aug 2016 #56
Leave it to Sanders Delegate & sore loser Norm Solomon to derail all hope misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #62
I'm so sick of conspiracy theory promoting Stein voting ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #59
That's not what I'm saying SHRED Aug 2016 #63
This is a horrid article ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #65
Thank you. It's so dumbed down and lowbrow as to be embarrassing to people R B Garr Aug 2016 #68
Exactly ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #70
Screw this article SHRED Aug 2016 #72
Soloman's "opinion".should be banned from DU. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #64
This article includes some of the worst of the primary bullshit ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #66
Yes. PRIMARY IS OVER. GTFO with this Anti-Dem bull shite misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #69
They'd love a Trump Presidency. Seriously, they really would. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #67
This is a disgusting OP ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #58
Yeah. This OP is typical media horse race bullshit fearmongering. ancianita Aug 2016 #60
I'm shocked! Shocked I say! Glamrock Aug 2016 #61
Manufactured outrage in search of ... JoePhilly Aug 2016 #71

Response to Post removed (Original post)

pnwmom

(109,177 posts)
13. Hillary is a progressive. The OP's article is Hillary bashing, from a long time Hillary basher. nt
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:35 AM
Aug 2016

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. Not having Trump! is really what America cares about.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:15 AM
Aug 2016

If we've got old DLCers in charge... that's clear evidence that -we-won.

A dem is always better than an republican.

global1

(25,526 posts)
6. So The Progressive Platform Coming Out Of The Convention Was....
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:16 AM
Aug 2016

just pulling our chain?

Doesn't this say something about trustiness?


pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. Seems like stretching to villify Hillary's administration before she's even sworn in
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:18 AM
Aug 2016

Most of us would prefer to judge President Hillary Clinton on what she does after taking office.

I can't help questioning an opinion piece seeking to undermine her at this point.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
9. Isn't this best suited for JPR?
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:22 AM
Aug 2016

Has the transition team done something specific, current tense, you object to?

Nice advance jab at Clinton


And the primary continues...

Response to SticksnStones (Reply #9)

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
21. Respectfully, I think Clinton has endured enough...
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 06:33 AM
Aug 2016

Of the damning by imagining what she will do or has done for which there is no proof. Just people supposing.

This article doesn't veer that far off from what republicans do to the Clintons all the time: accusing them of being about to do something.

Criticize her actual actions when they actually occur. That's valid. Clinton has stated clearly on multiple occasions that she will not support TPP in its current state. But again, respectfully, enough with the guilt by "could-have, might-just, maybe-will".

It's a technique that when employed by republicans lacks any nuance, or ability to imagine governance that isn't inherently corrupted.

And IMO, when employed by our side, it works against the stated purpose of this season, which is to get democrats elected.

Peace ~

Response to SticksnStones (Reply #21)

betsuni

(26,545 posts)
11. "four co-chairs" AHHHH! THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE!
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:33 AM
Aug 2016

Transition team TO HELL. The end is nigh! Repent, Democrats. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE? Thanks, Hillary.

R B Garr

(17,182 posts)
57. lol, "corporatist" is a phony holier-than-thou smear from the primaries.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:58 PM
Aug 2016

Heck, I was called a corporatist and I'm just a housewife. That's how it's obvious it was meant as some kind of smear since it is meant to signal that the speaker is the arbiter of all that is good and pure. Sick of it!

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
22. Some people ....
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 06:39 AM
Aug 2016

Are unfortunately still fighting in the primaries. There was only one winner, and that was Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders fought hard, and valiantly but it didn't happen for him.

We have a nominee whose going up against tRump and his Neo-Nazi buddy named Bannon and her name is Hillary Clinton.

End of story.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
23. Looking at Dr. Stein's twitter feed, she seems all het up about Ken Salazar.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 06:41 AM
Aug 2016

What strange bedfellows.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
29. Black's brain is still stuck in the 1990's.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:32 AM
Aug 2016

He's whining about talks that were held with Republicans in 1998, and fricking NAFTA.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
40. Salazar and Donilon served in the administration of the current president.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:52 PM
Aug 2016

Granholm served as governor of Michigan from 2003-2011.

You were saying?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
43. No, not really. He talked about negotiations with Newt Gingrich during the 1990's.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:06 PM
Aug 2016

Back when Newt Gingrich was relevant.

Which is ancient freaking history.

Ken Salazar got elected to the Senate in 2004, after Gingrich had resigned and well after NAFTA had passed. Donilon has never been in Congress.

Unclear where he got this nonsense.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
45. Black has been fighting the 1990s for 3 decades now. Stuck in the past.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:21 PM
Aug 2016

Black added: “And on the economic side, they were all in favor of austerity. All in favor of privatization. Tried to do a deal with Newt Gingrich to privatize Social Security. And of course, were all in favor of things like NAFTA.”


He's talking about the Newt Gingrich era in Congress. Stuck in the past. What he's talking about has zero relevance to people like Jennifer Granholm.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Archive/Governors_Story_Free_Trade.htm

https://www.quotetab.com/quote/by-jennifer-granholm/with-outsourcing-with-nafta-we-call-it-shafta-in-the-state-of-michigan-but-truly

Black hasn't figured out that this isn't the 1990s, and that Bill Clinton isn't on the ballot, and that the DLC no longer exists, and that Newt Gingrich is no longer relevant.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
36. The author of the piece is a sore loser who is just lying about her.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 08:32 AM
Aug 2016

Also this is clearly continuing the primary fights. Guy was a Bernie delegate who couldn't handle losing.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
42. He is lying about the implications of what ken Salazar may mean
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:05 PM
Aug 2016

In terms of her government and governing positions.

Like I said, sore fucking losers.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
47. How is he lying?
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:28 PM
Aug 2016

The best we could say is that we might hope the implications of this transition team aren't what they currently seem.

But given some of the track records of the appointees, that hope for change is the best we have, for now.

You can't know either, what this really means, until the points in the article are either confirmed, or allayed.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
49. when you definitely make arguments for which you have no proof
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:32 PM
Aug 2016

you are lying.

which is exactly what this sore loser Bernie delegate is doing.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
54. You're the one definitively claiming he's lying, without any counter-facts for rebuttal.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:54 PM
Aug 2016

I'd like to know specifics about Salazar, et al, that disprove these are legitimate concerns.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
48. Huffing and Posting has a great record. Home of HA HA Goodman and Stein.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:30 PM
Aug 2016

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Article in the op is laughable at best.



misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
55. Well lookie here. Solomon's opinion about all things "Hillary" sounds like SORE LOZERISM!
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:55 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:10 PM - Edit history (1)



Solomon was a Sanders delegate.
When has he E V E R supported Hillary without unsupporting her in the same breath.

Puke.
Why is this here on DU?

Disregard This OP from a Primary crybaby, Norman Soloman.



 

villager

(26,001 posts)
56. They do tend to derail "hope" (to say nothing of "change") pretty damn quickly.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:55 PM
Aug 2016

Let's hope there is, somehow, some margin for surprise, this time 'round...

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
62. Leave it to Sanders Delegate & sore loser Norm Solomon to derail all hope
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:04 PM
Aug 2016
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/16280

He's never supported Hillary.
He wasted no time pushing the Repub media lies.
He's still hoping to divide the Dem Party that serves as the ONLY HOPE against an extremist RW governance.

Wtf Norman.
Primary is over. Get over your bitter self.

Stronger Together ~ Hillary 2016
You get it Mr Sad Norman?!!!


ismnotwasm

(42,193 posts)
59. I'm so sick of conspiracy theory promoting Stein voting
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:02 PM
Aug 2016

Malcontents trying to upsurp and malign the democratic process

ismnotwasm

(42,193 posts)
65. This is a horrid article
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:06 PM
Aug 2016

Black’s assessment of Salazar, Podesta and the transition team’s four co-chairs is withering. “These aren’t just DNC regulars, Democratic National Committee regulars,” he said in an interview with The Real News Network. “What you’re seeing is complete domination by what used to be the Democratic Leadership Council. So this was a group we talked about in the past. Very, very, very right-wing on foreign policy, what they called a muscular foreign policy, which was a euphemism for invading places. And very, very tough on crime — this was that era of mass incarceration that Bill Clinton pushed, and it’s when Hillary was talking about black ‘superpredators,’ this myth, this so dangerous myth.”


Jesus.

R B Garr

(17,182 posts)
68. Thank you. It's so dumbed down and lowbrow as to be embarrassing to people
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:11 PM
Aug 2016

who claim to take this seriously. Just really stupid analogies, dated and out of context references. Good Lord, I thought this nonsense was behind us.

ismnotwasm

(42,193 posts)
66. This article includes some of the worst of the primary bullshit
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:09 PM
Aug 2016

From 'the DLC is all out to start many wars as possible' to a "super-predator" rehash

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
67. They'd love a Trump Presidency. Seriously, they really would.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:11 PM
Aug 2016

Trump fits everything Stein & her bigot VP shove at the media.

Yaa Stein & her Bigot VP. ..Same as Trump & his Bigot VP

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