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Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:09 PM Sep 2016

'New York Times' Editor: 'We Owed It To Our Readers' To Call Trump Claims Lie

'New York Times' Editor: 'We Owed It To Our Readers' To Call Trump Claims Lie
The New York Times recently published a story that examined the way that Donald Trump's presidential campaign promoted his tax plan. Trump had offered a big tax break to businesses, and his campaign told a leading business group he supported the tax break. He got their endorsement. Then his campaign told independent budget analysts he was against the same tax break.

The New York Times called this a lie — specifically, "the trillion-dollar lie."

The Times is using that word "lie" often in its coverage of Donald Trump, and Dean Baquet, the paper's executive editor, explains why on NPR's Morning Edition.

I heard this interview this morning. The interview spent more time discussing Trump's lie concerning birtherism, and it highlights the different editorial policies of NPR and the New York Times.
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'New York Times' Editor: 'We Owed It To Our Readers' To Call Trump Claims Lie (Original Post) Agnosticsherbet Sep 2016 OP
Listening now via your link. Indeed, "the trillion-dollar lie." Next: "crime" Coyotl Sep 2016 #1
NYT, you are saidsimplesimon Sep 2016 #2
Better late than never. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2016 #3
hey, nyt--if you had been doing your damned jobs at the beginning of this election cycle, niyad Sep 2016 #4
They have spent the last 18 months preaching the gospel of false equivalence. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2016 #7
And why did I cancel my NYT subcription. njcpa1978 Sep 2016 #14
i caught a snip of it barbtries Sep 2016 #5
His statement that NPR "gives people the facts and lets them decide" was enlighening. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2016 #6
absolutely. barbtries Sep 2016 #8
Ya think? jalan48 Sep 2016 #9
Finally figured that out, huh? Emilybemily Sep 2016 #10
You God damned "Yellow Rag In A Bubble" ... Jopin Klobe Sep 2016 #11
When I see NYT, I still can't help linking them with Judith Miller bulloney Sep 2016 #12
ehh... shouldn't they always be doing this? Astraea Sep 2016 #13
AGREED This just in... Zoonart Sep 2016 #16
ATTN NY Times Botany Sep 2016 #15
you OWED it to us a long fucking time ago Skittles Sep 2016 #17
Actually, I think everyone, R's included, realize Trump is a liar Albertoo Sep 2016 #18

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
2. NYT, you are
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:18 PM
Sep 2016

such a fickle lover of liberal ideals. I respect your prudence, but question your motives. These times require more than you are willing to give? OK, I understand the power of governments to silence the media. Another foolish attempt?

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. Better late than never.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:20 PM
Sep 2016

I still don't trust them.

The interview, by the way, covers in a small way NPR's editorial policy when it comes to Trump falsehoods. It violates their policy to call a lie a lie.

niyad

(114,192 posts)
4. hey, nyt--if you had been doing your damned jobs at the beginning of this election cycle,
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:24 PM
Sep 2016

you wouldn't have to call drumpfy on his lies now, because he never would have made it this far. you are complicit, you are responsible for helping to create this monster. apologize for that, even though it won't do us a damned bit of good.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
7. They have spent the last 18 months preaching the gospel of false equivalence.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:33 PM
Sep 2016

I hope the change last longer than the news cycle.

njcpa1978

(114 posts)
14. And why did I cancel my NYT subcription.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 02:15 PM
Sep 2016

Exactly what you said. Switched to the WashPost. Thank you Davud Fahrenthold for proving there are still REAL investigative reporters out there and not just a bunch of note takers. That famous monkey that typed all the works of Shakespeare could do that.

barbtries

(28,829 posts)
5. i caught a snip of it
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:27 PM
Sep 2016

it seemed the NPR guy was saying that calling a lie a lie was telling people what to think. twisted.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
6. His statement that NPR "gives people the facts and lets them decide" was enlighening.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:32 PM
Sep 2016

NPR has been a cheerleader of false equivalence, playing down, or ignoring, Trumps huge lies while using a megaphone when discussing every bit of gossip about Clinton.

If a politician stands up and tells a demonstrable lie, that lie is newsworthy, and the word LIE should be on the front page.

barbtries

(28,829 posts)
8. absolutely.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:46 PM
Sep 2016

National Public Republican Radio's political coverage has been abysmal. not rarely i have to switch to the cd to get away from it because i'm yelling at the radio

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
11. You God damned "Yellow Rag In A Bubble" ...
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 01:49 PM
Sep 2016

... you owe it to your readers to REPORT THE TRUTH ALL THE TIME ...

... you do realize that the tool you use in your part of the so-called "media" is called ...

... a God damned NEWSpaper ...

... look up the word "news" you pseudo-sophisticated klowns ...

... then resign ...

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
12. When I see NYT, I still can't help linking them with Judith Miller
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 02:11 PM
Sep 2016

and her role as a stooge for Bush & Cheney to gin this country up for war by facilitating their lies about Iraq and WMDs. So you see, their credibility with me is still pretty shaky.

What brought on the NYT's epiphany on Trump lying? Why haven't other media come out?

Astraea

(474 posts)
13. ehh... shouldn't they always be doing this?
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 02:13 PM
Sep 2016

Isn't that their job? They act like they're making an exception to tell the truth, just this once.

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