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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:21 PM Sep 2016

CNN just now: Trump Will Try To Rattle Hillary Before 2nd Debate By Going After Bill's Indiscretions

NYT reporter Patrick Healy spoke with Trump tonight by phone and told Anderson Cooper that Trump said he will go after "Bill's indiscretions" in order to rattle Hillary.

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Donald Trump Opens A New Line Of Attack On Hillary Clinton: Her Marriage

by Patrick Healy and Maggie Haberman
September 30, 2016

Donald J. Trump unleashed a slashing new attack on Hillary Clinton over Bill Clinton’s sexual indiscretions on Friday as he sought to put the Clintons’ relationship at the center of his political argument against her before their next debate.

Mr. Trump, aiming to unnerve Mrs. Clinton, even indicated that he was rethinking his statement at their last debate that he would “absolutely” support her if she won in November, saying: “We’re going to have to see. We’re going to see what happens. We’re going to have to see.”

In an interview with The New York Times, he also contended that infidelity was “never a problem” during his three marriages, though his first ended in an ugly divorce after Mr. Trump began a relationship with the woman who became his second wife.

-snip-

He said he was bringing up Mr. Clinton’s infidelities because he thought they would repulse female voters and turn them away from the Clintons, and because he was eager to unsettle Mrs. Clinton in their next two debates and on the campaign trail.

read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/01/us/politics/donald-trump-interview-bill-hillary-clinton.html

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CNN just now: Trump Will Try To Rattle Hillary Before 2nd Debate By Going After Bill's Indiscretions (Original Post) napkinz Sep 2016 OP
I wonder if he knows Bill isn't running. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2016 #1
That misogynist pig thinks Bill will be the real president Warpy Oct 2016 #101
Who the hell are his advisors? Dorian Gray Sep 2016 #2
this ... napkinz Sep 2016 #5
+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #58
yep, he's digging his own political grave napkinz Oct 2016 #66
Yep. That's exactly right! He just goes from one stupid thing to the next. AgadorSparticus Oct 2016 #70
Please ... proceed relayerbob Oct 2016 #81
he does not listen to his advisors Skittles Sep 2016 #37
He doesn't even listen to his own family who just want to stay rich and be able to show up in public Monk06 Oct 2016 #45
The voices in his head KewlKat Oct 2016 #46
Roger Ailes Dream Girl Oct 2016 #74
Steve Bannon, Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #88
yeah, i see no way this strategy ends well for him (which i guess makes it a good strategy) fishwax Oct 2016 #84
he obviously doesn't listen to advisors (because he thinks he is the smartest person ever.) salin Oct 2016 #100
I think the Hillary camp should prepare but not over prepare meadowlark5 Sep 2016 #3
Best thing to do is to divert his attention elsewhere. NYC Liberal Sep 2016 #41
Exactly ScubaSteve Oct 2016 #63
Welcome to DU wryter2000 Oct 2016 #78
if? DonCoquixote Oct 2016 #51
And the Soviets will never take Berlin..... VMA131Marine Sep 2016 #4
You win best of the day GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #39
Bad move Iliyah Sep 2016 #6
Depends on your perspective...... TheCowsCameHome Sep 2016 #9
Hey Donald - good luck with that! Avalux Sep 2016 #7
the irony ... in trying to rattle Hillary, Trump is showing how rattled he himself is napkinz Sep 2016 #19
Hillary weathered this storm 20 years ago by people much smarter than Trump. Democrat 4 Ever Oct 2016 #87
so Hillary wasn't the victim mr. trump? you are one sick fuck. spanone Sep 2016 #8
Carl Bernstein on CNN just responded to this breaking news ... napkinz Sep 2016 #15
Dumbasses. Is that all they got? Yawn. Little Star Sep 2016 #10
he thinks this will "unsettle Mrs. Clinton in their next two debates" napkinz Sep 2016 #25
There are potentially so many ways she can respond to this that will bury him elehhhhna Oct 2016 #76
Hillary: "Go ahead, make my day." napkinz Oct 2016 #79
That's right Don forgotmylogin Sep 2016 #11
So funny. If there's one thing the Clinton's are ready for it's people thinking they can enough Sep 2016 #12
Please proceed, Donald. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #13
:) napkinz Sep 2016 #27
let's see .... one of the candidates for POTUS has been married three times, has had .... etherealtruth Sep 2016 #14
Trumpy, Rudy & Newty Mendocino Oct 2016 #69
the three stooges ... Deweycheatumnhowe napkinz Oct 2016 #71
Its bizarre etherealtruth Oct 2016 #89
3 wives, going after HRC spouse, funny stuff. sarcasmo Sep 2016 #16
He is setting the bar for stupid pretty high for future Repubs rurallib Sep 2016 #17
trump announces plans for surprise attack! unblock Sep 2016 #18
No surprise GopherGal Oct 2016 #72
more telling, is that it doesn't remotely occur to him to roll out a popular policy proposal unblock Oct 2016 #75
Good luck with that Egnever Sep 2016 #20
Bring it, Dumbass. spiderpig Sep 2016 #21
Something tells me this isn't the approach McCarthur would have taken underpants Sep 2016 #22
Let's see. The last issues with Bill happened 20 years ago... backscatter712 Sep 2016 #23
Ummm... Someone remind me what the actual topics of this debate are supposed to be? Hugin Sep 2016 #24
yes, it's a Town Hall. There will be no lecterns. Trump will be seated. napkinz Oct 2016 #67
My eyes!i1!!i Hugin Oct 2016 #68
T P (Trump Pence) napkinz Oct 2016 #85
Oh yeah matt819 Sep 2016 #26
"Rattle Hillary" MFM008 Sep 2016 #28
:) napkinz Sep 2016 #31
First image that came to my mind... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #42
I love the GWC58 Oct 2016 #55
lol MFM008 Oct 2016 #80
He is going to rattle her with rehashed smears? wisteria Sep 2016 #29
That was what... 25 years ago?? C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #30
Hillary will simply wipe the floor with him...it will be a Please Proceed moment HipChick Sep 2016 #32
he'll be ON the floor napkinz Oct 2016 #86
This is going to seriously backfire. n/t TDale313 Sep 2016 #33
Yawn. Hekate Sep 2016 #34
Thanks for the grins -- ☺ ☻☺☺☺☺ :-) :) ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #35
That's the way to get women's votes, all right! regnaD kciN Sep 2016 #36
Does he repeat everything to try to convince himself the lie is reality? Thor_MN Sep 2016 #38
Go for it, Drumpf. Show us just how much an asshole you really are. roamer65 Sep 2016 #40
Just announcing that should garner a 3 point bump for Clinton in the polls...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #43
how could that possibly backfire? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #44
you know what would really leave her befuddled, Don? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #47
He's also claiming that he has never cheated maryellen99 Oct 2016 #48
Wait just a minute. He's telling her his plan instead of convening his generals to come up with one? randome Oct 2016 #49
Bring it Donald. Getting attacked is Hillary's super power justiceischeap Oct 2016 #50
Bring. It. On. Arkana Oct 2016 #52
At the end of the debate.... Aviation Pro Oct 2016 #53
30 years of people trying to rattle hillary hasn't work and coming from trump it ill appear as beachbum bob Oct 2016 #54
This idea that Bill's infidelities would repulse women and turn them away sarae Oct 2016 #56
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #60
The entire Republican party is a cocker spaniel repeatedly banging into a sliding glass door. sarae Oct 2016 #57
Hillary’s response to Donald “if” he has the balls to bring up Bill’s indiscretions in next debate; ScubaSteve Oct 2016 #59
Boom! smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #61
Thanks! ScubaSteve Oct 2016 #62
Welcome to DU. Step on in and take a look around. fleabiscuit Oct 2016 #83
Yessss… ScubaSteve Oct 2016 #95
Unsettle... Mike Nelson Oct 2016 #64
Heh heh. Please proceed, dumbass. DinahMoeHum Oct 2016 #65
He is right. Bringing up Bill's infidelities will repulse women voters...just not to Hillary AgadorSparticus Oct 2016 #73
a couple of commentators on Joy Reid this morning came to the conclusion that he's actually napkinz Oct 2016 #92
That has been floated for a long time now. The way things are going, AgadorSparticus Oct 2016 #94
Good luck with that wryter2000 Oct 2016 #77
Because they've never thought about this possibility relayerbob Oct 2016 #82
Hillary will just ignore him. Duval Oct 2016 #90
:) napkinz Oct 2016 #93
Boxers call this "telegraphing a punch" jmowreader Oct 2016 #91
he won't reveal his plan to defeat ISIS (it's a secret) napkinz Oct 2016 #96
Bill can speak for himself. Hillary should NOT address this in a public forum. It's an invasion ancianita Oct 2016 #97
well, he just crossed another line ... napkinz Oct 2016 #98
And she needn't react. ancianita Oct 2016 #99
yep, just let him keep digging napkinz Oct 2016 #103
20 years too late Zambero Oct 2016 #102

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
101. That misogynist pig thinks Bill will be the real president
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 10:27 PM
Oct 2016

while Hillary's in the kitchen, barefoot and chained to the stove.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
2. Who the hell are his advisors?
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:25 PM
Sep 2016

Honestly, bring it on. It's going to make every single female voter think he's an asshole.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
45. He doesn't even listen to his own family who just want to stay rich and be able to show up in public
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 12:40 AM
Oct 2016

once this insane narcissist destroys himself

salin

(48,955 posts)
100. he obviously doesn't listen to advisors (because he thinks he is the smartest person ever.)
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 10:05 PM
Oct 2016

He is now in full phase of bull in a china shop. And with each goring of an object in the store he will repulse more fence sitters. His die-hards - are going to be his die hards. Females included. But for those "i'll vote 3rd party", "I'll vote, but not at the top of the ticket" a tipping point is growing near.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
3. I think the Hillary camp should prepare but not over prepare
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:26 PM
Sep 2016

Trump's campaign seems in a panic and will be trying to trip them up. They're probably saying this to, hopefully, have Hillary spend all of her time preparing for those attacks and then throw something else at her.

I suspect Hillary's campaign knows this. I think trying to predict what Donald Trump shows up the next debate is just as unpredictable as the first debate. They just have to anticipate everything - especially if there will be Trump supporters in the town hall asking Benghazi/email questions.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
41. Best thing to do is to divert his attention elsewhere.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:42 PM
Sep 2016

And it's very easy to do.

Look at what Hillary did when he brought up the emails. She mentioned his tax returns and suggested he isn't as rich as he says. That was it -- he forgot all about the emails and spent the next 10 minutes getting defensive.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
51. if?
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 07:50 AM
Oct 2016

I would not be surprised if they had some Benghazi widow waiting in the audience, ready to do tearful screams that might as well be directed by Michael Bay, for endless replay and "did yooo see how she wuz so heartless" loops.

NO low is too low, absolutely none.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
7. Hey Donald - good luck with that!
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:27 PM
Sep 2016

He wants so desperately to unsettle Hillary, to make her nervous and submissive to him, but it isn't going to happen.

Hillary's got this.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
19. the irony ... in trying to rattle Hillary, Trump is showing how rattled he himself is
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:44 PM
Sep 2016

talk about a meltdown!

Democrat 4 Ever

(3,941 posts)
87. Hillary weathered this storm 20 years ago by people much smarter than Trump.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 02:42 PM
Oct 2016

She didn't rattle then and he certainly doesn't have the ability to rattle her now. This issue is a huge loss for Trump. He will only highlight his hypocrisy and really piss off women. Go for it dumb ass. I hope he tries, the 3 am tweets will be epic.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
15. Carl Bernstein on CNN just responded to this breaking news ...
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:39 PM
Sep 2016

Called Trump an unhinged Rage-a-Holic.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
76. There are potentially so many ways she can respond to this that will bury him
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:37 AM
Oct 2016

that I honestly hope he does it

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
11. That's right Don
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:32 PM
Sep 2016

Hit her in the place she's most callused and used to hearing about. That'll rattle this battle-hardened 60 year old verbal amazon warrior right where she least expects. She won't know what hit her. She won't have thought of any type of retort for this 30 year old issue. You have the best strategies. Flawless.

enough

(13,259 posts)
12. So funny. If there's one thing the Clinton's are ready for it's people thinking they can
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:33 PM
Sep 2016

bring them down by going after Bill's "indiscretions."

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
14. let's see .... one of the candidates for POTUS has been married three times, has had ....
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:37 PM
Sep 2016

... numerous affairs . The other has not been credibly linked to any of the above and chose to work on a marriage where her spouse was involved in multiple infidelities.

It is bizarre to me that the short fingered vulgarian would even consider this

Mendocino

(7,488 posts)
69. Trumpy, Rudy & Newty
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:40 AM
Oct 2016

have 9 marriages between them. Hillary has one. Yet these rubes are somehow the arbiters of behavior.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
17. He is setting the bar for stupid pretty high for future Repubs
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:42 PM
Sep 2016

if there is any party left after election day

unblock

(52,208 posts)
18. trump announces plans for surprise attack!
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:42 PM
Sep 2016

and this is the guy who whined about hillary's isis plan being too revealing.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
72. No surprise
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:17 AM
Oct 2016

You've got to think Hillary was prepared in case he brought it up in the first debate anyway.

If he thinks that after 20 years of unending public criticism a jibe from him about this will make her loose her &*#^, he's massively projecting...

unblock

(52,208 posts)
75. more telling, is that it doesn't remotely occur to him to roll out a popular policy proposal
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:32 AM
Oct 2016

with trump, the thought is even laughable.

all he has is insults.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
20. Good luck with that
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:45 PM
Sep 2016

she has heard years of that shit. If that rattles her at this point she is not the woman I think she is.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
23. Let's see. The last issues with Bill happened 20 years ago...
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:56 PM
Sep 2016

...and Bill and Hillary worked to stay together and save their marriage.

All I can say about thrice-married Trump, with his acrimonious divorces: I. Wouldn't. Be. Talking...

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
24. Ummm... Someone remind me what the actual topics of this debate are supposed to be?
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:57 PM
Sep 2016

A Town Hall format?

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
30. That was what... 25 years ago??
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 10:23 PM
Sep 2016

I'm sure Hillary and Bill have it all worked out... and good for them for working it out. As for Trump trying to make an issue of it... who the fuck cares. He's deplorable.

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
35. Thanks for the grins -- ☺ ☻☺☺☺☺ :-) :)
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:08 PM
Sep 2016
Let's not gloat but this is hilarious stuff. Thanks for sharing. There's so much discouraging stuff in the news; It's good to get a smile here and there.

We still have to remember to get out the vote and all that. No getting complacent!

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
38. Does he repeat everything to try to convince himself the lie is reality?
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:18 PM
Sep 2016

Is he so weak that he uses the Big Lie on himself?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
47. you know what would really leave her befuddled, Don?
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 07:08 AM
Oct 2016

Take a big Trump Dump right there on the stage. Pull down your big boy Pants, and just drop a giant loaf on national television. Then stand up, face the camera, your wee dingle dangle dangling under the tv lights, and go

"see, mine DO smell like honey!

NOW, TINY PEOPLE OF EARTH--- ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?"





You'll totally win, man. Seriously. Do it. Hillary won't know what to do.


You know you want to.

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
48. He's also claiming that he has never cheated
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 07:30 AM
Oct 2016

He claims he started dating Marla Maples only after divorce proceedings started ROFL.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
49. Wait just a minute. He's telling her his plan instead of convening his generals to come up with one?
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 07:34 AM
Oct 2016

Clinton is more of an immediate concern for him than ISIS?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
[/center][/font][hr]

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
50. Bring it Donald. Getting attacked is Hillary's super power
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 07:38 AM
Oct 2016

He has to have the most clueless campaign advisors if they think this line of attack will rattle her. Have they no recollection of how composed she was in the midst of all of Bill's indiscretions? How she came out swinging in his defense?

If they think they can force an error with this attack, then I only have one thing to say, "Please proceed."

Aviation Pro

(12,164 posts)
53. At the end of the debate....
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 07:51 AM
Oct 2016

....when the walking fuckwit said he wasn't going to go there, the look on HRC's face said it all:

[font size='36' color ='red']Proceed, asshole.[/font]

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
54. 30 years of people trying to rattle hillary hasn't work and coming from trump it ill appear as
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 07:56 AM
Oct 2016

just more of his misogynistic attacks....hillary will use this for her advantage as she has prepared for it for 12 years.....

trump and conservatives ill once again fall into her trap where they will come out looking like complete fools again

sarae

(3,284 posts)
56. This idea that Bill's infidelities would repulse women and turn them away
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:11 AM
Oct 2016

from Hillary Clinton is so completely NUTS. Trump's an idiot if he doesn't see that what really repulses women is the fact that HE'S attacking her in this way.

Do he and his "boys club" (Giuliani, Bannon and Gingrich) think women are so dumb that we don't realize these men live in the most fragile glass houses ever built?

The sheer idiocy and hypocrisy on display here is STUNNING.

Please proceed, Donnie.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
60. Thank YOU!
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:46 AM
Oct 2016

Not only does he not see how such a tactic will alienate women even further, but he is a serial philanderer who brags about it. He is in no position to bring up such a matter. It is only going to come back to hit him in his ugly face.

ScubaSteve

(83 posts)
59. Hillary’s response to Donald “if” he has the balls to bring up Bill’s indiscretions in next debate;
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:44 AM
Oct 2016

“Well Donald…I’m pretty sure that my husband’s past has been well documented and the people out there have most likely made up their minds regarding how they feel about it.

My faith tells me in that situation that I have to work on my marriage, and that’s what I did.

Your past indiscretions are also well documented as you shamelessly cheated on your first wife with your second wife, and then cheated on the second wife, and who knows what you are doing while you are on wife number three.

I however, have not cheated on anyone.”

“…nuff said”

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
83. Welcome to DU. Step on in and take a look around.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 12:28 PM
Oct 2016

Very good start. However, I don't like to leave open arguments giving a chance for rebuttal. Plus I would rather go for the jugular. Perhaps...

"Your past indiscretions are also well documented as you shamelessly cheated on your first wife with your second wife, and then cheated on the second wife, and you strangely mention how "hot" your own daughter is.

“…nuff said”


Think?

ScubaSteve

(83 posts)
95. Yessss…
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 09:26 AM
Oct 2016

I like you’re thinking. The beauty is there is so much to work with that we can take it so many ways….

Mike Nelson

(9,954 posts)
64. Unsettle...
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:06 AM
Oct 2016

... lol. Go for it, Donald! She does not unsettle easily and these stories always make Hillary more popular!

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
73. He is right. Bringing up Bill's infidelities will repulse women voters...just not to Hillary
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:17 AM
Oct 2016

I swear, he is Hillary's best unknowing surrogate.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
92. a couple of commentators on Joy Reid this morning came to the conclusion that he's actually
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 06:18 PM
Oct 2016

trying to throw the election.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
94. That has been floated for a long time now. The way things are going,
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:56 PM
Oct 2016

It sure looks more and more like it. But, you never know.

wryter2000

(46,039 posts)
77. Good luck with that
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:37 AM
Oct 2016

If the entire US Congress couldn't rattle her with that, I don't know what Trump thinks he can accomplish.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
90. Hillary will just ignore him.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 04:18 PM
Oct 2016

She already knows what he plans and is too smart to be rattled about this during the debates.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
91. Boxers call this "telegraphing a punch"
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 04:37 PM
Oct 2016

I call this the biggest mistake that has ever been made in the history of American politics, because it opens Trump up to a LOT of attacks. You can't unnerve someone who doesn't sweat, Donnie, and mentioning Hillary's HUSBAND's infidelities will allow Hillary to remind female voters of your inability to keep your dick in your pants.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
97. Bill can speak for himself. Hillary should NOT address this in a public forum. It's an invasion
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 03:42 PM
Oct 2016

of privacy between two married people. In public.

If she forces Trump to answer for his infidelities, that's fair, because he's the one running for president. But Trump MAY NOT demand that Hillary answer for Bill.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
99. And she needn't react.
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 09:12 PM
Oct 2016

Ugh. He's so high school, the filth out of his mouth so toxic, that I have to take a shower after he talks.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
102. 20 years too late
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 10:40 PM
Oct 2016

Also, if Trump wants to score points, attempting to shame a woman for her husband's past indiscretions would not be anywhere near the top of the "succeed" list.

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