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Ruby Cramer @rubycramer 1h1 hour agoBiden on Trump's PTSD comment: "He's not a bad man. But his ignorance is so profound, so profound... How can he be so out of touch?"
Russell Drew @RussOnPolitics 12h
WATCH: Furious VP Joe Biden brutally blisters Trump over veteran PTSD insult Where the hell is he from? http://ow.ly/2dlz304P7zZ
TonyPDX
(962 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)Trump isn't a "bad" man, he's a grotesque creature.
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)He's the best.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Imus has been a vocal supporter of Trump, but this was too much for even him, basically talking this morning about how stupid Trump was, how ignorant, brought up Trump's comment on POW McCain again. He sounded like he was at the point where he couldn't vote for him anymore. Not going to vote for Clinton, though.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)How can he justify sticking with Trump until this particular moment? And chances are, his memory of it will be short and he will be right back on the Trump train next week.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Joe Biden has such a big heart: he feels like the soul of our political universe. Others sling about ideology, or throw out quotable insults, but he seems truly to care on a personal level ... something that so many of us (myself sometimes included) fail to comprehend. Does he always make the right decisions or say the right things? Of course not. But he tries to make his political actions accord with his heart, and that is something kind of rare.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Read that bit again about the exact numbers of dead and wounded. "It's not 6700 and some, it's 6,753 deaths, not 50, 53." That's someone who carefully goes over the information he's given, and who realizes that each number in the report represents a person. I don't get that feeling from a lot of politicians when they're talking about casualties.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Trump keeps himself in a bubble.
He's the guy who took inheritance money from his brother's bereaved family by rewriting his father's will while his father suffered dementia. His brother's family who needed the money to tend to a sick child.
When Donald Trumps father, Fred Sr., died in 1999, the roughly $20 million inheritance was divided up among his children and their descendants, other than my son Fred C. Trump Jr., according to the Times.
Donald Trump had helped draft the will. At the time, Freddy Trumps children sued, claiming Donald Trump and his siblings had used undue influence over their grandfather, who had dementia.
Donald retaliated by withdrawing the medical benefits he had promised to his nephews infant son, who suffered from seizures that led to cerebral palsy, according to the Times.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)As well as profoundly ignorant. I can forgive Joe being charitable, however.
jehop61
(1,735 posts)The Billion$Loser is a bad man.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...that he wasn't a "bad man" in this instance. Meaning, unlike with the McCain POW comment, he wasn't trying to be insulting or hurtful. He said the wrong, clueless thing about PTSD. But it wasn't out of meanness. I think Joe saw that in how Trump said it. And being that Joe himself has sometimes said things wrong, and been seen as being insulting when he wasn't intending it that way at all, I think he sympathized with that. Hence the "he's not a bad man."
Cakes488
(874 posts)Oh he didn't mean this he meant that...he was being sarcastic...it was a joke...there should not have to be a round of damage control every time a presidential candidate speaks. I mean Trashpot is so damn smart shouldn't he know that it's in his best interests to choose his words carefully..... He has no capability of careful measured thought...emphasis on the thought part!
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...I was simply explaining why Biden might have thought and said "he's not a bad man" in this case, when, clearly, he's been a very bad man in so many other cases.
That's what I was talking about. So I don't see why I need a lecture on how ridiculous it is that someone running for president needs a "translator"and if he does how that should instantly disqualify him. If Biden hadn't said that, I wouldn't have bothered, believe me. But I thought that BIDEN could use a little translation in this case. As I do think Biden is more than capable of careful, measured thought, and wouldn't say such a thing without a reason.
Cakes488
(874 posts)surrogates have to "translate" it.
Should have posted the scar ask emoji.😎
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)My best friend's dad has been back from Vietnam for 47 years and still wakes up from night terrors. He has tried therapy and medications but they never really go away, they just get easier to deal with.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)he is a recovering alcoholic so he sees it as a danger to his sobriety
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Good luck!
Dorian Gray
(13,493 posts)of bravery. No longer self-medicating. Facing his terror head on.
What a brave man!
Screw Trump.
CJohnson_LS
(52 posts)Great man, I'll miss him greatly when he leaves in January. And Trump IS a bad man, a very bad one at that.
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)or something else doing with vets. He would be motivated to do a good job. I have been seeing vets with problems since I was a young child. Before I had the words for it. It is not who is strong or not strong.
Vinca
(50,271 posts)He's selfish and self-centered, does not understand the concept of compassion and doesn't care one iota about vets with or without PTSD. It's just part of the show.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)Boomerproud
(7,952 posts)I don't think there's a mean bone in his body-and he has been bruised by his sensitivity.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)And a terrible human being
Marc2010
(117 posts)stage left
(2,962 posts)Trump is a horrible, evil excuse for a man.
madokie
(51,076 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)who came home scarred for life because of my part in a war that shouldn't have ever happened. The Vietnamese people hadn't done anything to us, they were no threat to us. But yet that was the justification used to get my ass over there to begin with. We got to stop them over there before they get over here was the battle cry back in the lead up to my being drafted and ultimately being sent off to a war that should never have been. I came home a changed man. I, for years, couldn't figure out what the deal was until I finally started reading about PTSD and it hit me like a ton of bricks, I suffer from PTSD and have since my time in war. Fuck tRump and those who support him.