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(85,996 posts)
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:43 AM Oct 2016

Biden on Trump's PTSD comment: "He's not a bad man. But his ignorance is so profound..."

Ruby Cramer ‏@rubycramer 1h1 hour ago
Biden on Trump's PTSD comment: "He's not a bad man. But his ignorance is so profound, so profound... How can he be so out of touch?"




Russell Drew ‏@RussOnPolitics 12h
WATCH: Furious VP Joe Biden brutally blisters Trump over veteran PTSD insult — ‘Where the hell is he from?’ http://ow.ly/2dlz304P7zZ
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Biden on Trump's PTSD comment: "He's not a bad man. But his ignorance is so profound..." (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2016 OP
Vice President Biden is being gracious, as always-- but Trump really IS a bad guy. TonyPDX Oct 2016 #1
Biden's right... sarae Oct 2016 #2
Can we keep Joe? C_U_L8R Oct 2016 #3
Even Don Imus this morning was going after Trump n2doc Oct 2016 #4
Imus is almost as much of an ignoramus as Trump is. yellowcanine Oct 2016 #7
Made me cry almost frazzled Oct 2016 #5
Indeed gratuitous Oct 2016 #14
That's someone who has known loss and grown from experience. KittyWampus Oct 2016 #16
Yes, he actually is a bad man. CanonRay Oct 2016 #6
Biden is wrong jehop61 Oct 2016 #8
Yes, Trump is a bad man, a terrible man. BUT I think what Biden meant was... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #9
We should not need a translator every time Trashbag speaks Cakes488 Oct 2016 #11
No, we shouldn't need a translator for Trump. And I wasn't trying to translate HIM.... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #24
I didn't mean you specifically..I mean in general...every time Trashbag says something his fool Cakes488 Oct 2016 #25
Sorry jehop61 Oct 2016 #13
Trump is a bad man rbrnmw Oct 2016 #10
Has he tried cannabis? SHRED Oct 2016 #12
we have tried to talk him into it rbrnmw Oct 2016 #15
Yeah that's tough SHRED Oct 2016 #21
That's the epitome Dorian Gray Oct 2016 #28
As usual, Biden is spot on with his views CJohnson_LS Oct 2016 #17
They should put Biden in charge of the VA demigoddess Oct 2016 #18
I disagree. I think he is a bad man. Vinca Oct 2016 #19
For once I disagree with the VP--Trump is a VERY bad man book_worm Oct 2016 #20
These statements show Joe Biden's charitable character. Boomerproud Oct 2016 #22
Trump is a horrendous man Shankapotomus Oct 2016 #23
Trump is a cockroach. I will not even put him in the same classification as the human race Marc2010 Oct 2016 #26
I respectfully disagree with the Vice President. stage left Oct 2016 #27
I second that madokie Oct 2016 #30
Hey tRump I'm one of the weak ones madokie Oct 2016 #29
Worse than Palin, at least she was an Alaskan politico uponit7771 Oct 2016 #31

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
4. Even Don Imus this morning was going after Trump
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:53 AM
Oct 2016

Imus has been a vocal supporter of Trump, but this was too much for even him, basically talking this morning about how stupid Trump was, how ignorant, brought up Trump's comment on POW McCain again. He sounded like he was at the point where he couldn't vote for him anymore. Not going to vote for Clinton, though.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
7. Imus is almost as much of an ignoramus as Trump is.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:58 AM
Oct 2016

How can he justify sticking with Trump until this particular moment? And chances are, his memory of it will be short and he will be right back on the Trump train next week.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
5. Made me cry almost
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:54 AM
Oct 2016

Joe Biden has such a big heart: he feels like the soul of our political universe. Others sling about ideology, or throw out quotable insults, but he seems truly to care on a personal level ... something that so many of us (myself sometimes included) fail to comprehend. Does he always make the right decisions or say the right things? Of course not. But he tries to make his political actions accord with his heart, and that is something kind of rare.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. Indeed
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 01:54 PM
Oct 2016

Read that bit again about the exact numbers of dead and wounded. "It's not 6700 and some, it's 6,753 deaths, not 50, 53." That's someone who carefully goes over the information he's given, and who realizes that each number in the report represents a person. I don't get that feeling from a lot of politicians when they're talking about casualties.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
16. That's someone who has known loss and grown from experience.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 02:06 PM
Oct 2016

Trump keeps himself in a bubble.

He's the guy who took inheritance money from his brother's bereaved family by rewriting his father's will while his father suffered dementia. His brother's family who needed the money to tend to a sick child.

When Donald Trump’s father, Fred Sr., died in 1999, the roughly $20 million inheritance was divided up among his children and their descendants, “other than my son Fred C. Trump Jr.,” according to the Times.

Donald Trump had helped draft the will. At the time, Freddy Trump’s children sued, claiming Donald Trump and his siblings had used “undue influence” over their grandfather, who had dementia.

Donald retaliated by withdrawing the medical benefits he had promised to his nephew’s infant son, who suffered from seizures that led to cerebral palsy, according to the Times.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
6. Yes, he actually is a bad man.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:56 AM
Oct 2016

As well as profoundly ignorant. I can forgive Joe being charitable, however.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
9. Yes, Trump is a bad man, a terrible man. BUT I think what Biden meant was...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 01:15 PM
Oct 2016

...that he wasn't a "bad man" in this instance. Meaning, unlike with the McCain POW comment, he wasn't trying to be insulting or hurtful. He said the wrong, clueless thing about PTSD. But it wasn't out of meanness. I think Joe saw that in how Trump said it. And being that Joe himself has sometimes said things wrong, and been seen as being insulting when he wasn't intending it that way at all, I think he sympathized with that. Hence the "he's not a bad man."

 

Cakes488

(874 posts)
11. We should not need a translator every time Trashbag speaks
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 01:37 PM
Oct 2016

Oh he didn't mean this he meant that...he was being sarcastic...it was a joke...there should not have to be a round of damage control every time a presidential candidate speaks. I mean Trashpot is so damn smart shouldn't he know that it's in his best interests to choose his words carefully..... He has no capability of careful measured thought...emphasis on the thought part!

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
24. No, we shouldn't need a translator for Trump. And I wasn't trying to translate HIM....
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:14 PM
Oct 2016

...I was simply explaining why Biden might have thought and said "he's not a bad man" in this case, when, clearly, he's been a very bad man in so many other cases.

That's what I was talking about. So I don't see why I need a lecture on how ridiculous it is that someone running for president needs a "translator"—and if he does how that should instantly disqualify him. If Biden hadn't said that, I wouldn't have bothered, believe me. But I thought that BIDEN could use a little translation in this case. As I do think Biden is more than capable of careful, measured thought, and wouldn't say such a thing without a reason.

 

Cakes488

(874 posts)
25. I didn't mean you specifically..I mean in general...every time Trashbag says something his fool
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:28 PM
Oct 2016

surrogates have to "translate" it.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
10. Trump is a bad man
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 01:29 PM
Oct 2016

My best friend's dad has been back from Vietnam for 47 years and still wakes up from night terrors. He has tried therapy and medications but they never really go away, they just get easier to deal with.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
15. we have tried to talk him into it
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 02:01 PM
Oct 2016

he is a recovering alcoholic so he sees it as a danger to his sobriety

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
28. That's the epitome
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 06:50 AM
Oct 2016

of bravery. No longer self-medicating. Facing his terror head on.

What a brave man!

Screw Trump.

 

CJohnson_LS

(52 posts)
17. As usual, Biden is spot on with his views
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 02:08 PM
Oct 2016

Great man, I'll miss him greatly when he leaves in January. And Trump IS a bad man, a very bad one at that.

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
18. They should put Biden in charge of the VA
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 02:27 PM
Oct 2016

or something else doing with vets. He would be motivated to do a good job. I have been seeing vets with problems since I was a young child. Before I had the words for it. It is not who is strong or not strong.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
19. I disagree. I think he is a bad man.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 02:40 PM
Oct 2016

He's selfish and self-centered, does not understand the concept of compassion and doesn't care one iota about vets with or without PTSD. It's just part of the show.

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
22. These statements show Joe Biden's charitable character.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:04 PM
Oct 2016

I don't think there's a mean bone in his body-and he has been bruised by his sensitivity.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
29. Hey tRump I'm one of the weak ones
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 07:22 AM
Oct 2016

who came home scarred for life because of my part in a war that shouldn't have ever happened. The Vietnamese people hadn't done anything to us, they were no threat to us. But yet that was the justification used to get my ass over there to begin with. We got to stop them over there before they get over here was the battle cry back in the lead up to my being drafted and ultimately being sent off to a war that should never have been. I came home a changed man. I, for years, couldn't figure out what the deal was until I finally started reading about PTSD and it hit me like a ton of bricks, I suffer from PTSD and have since my time in war. Fuck tRump and those who support him.

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