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annabanana

(52,791 posts)
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:19 PM Oct 2016

The die-hard Trumpsters are 100% convinced that

they are in the majority. They have been fed on hate radio, and now streaming hate, exclusively, for decades. We know his biggest group is under educated, and hurting economically. They have been told who to blame and they believe it to their very core.

How do we get them back out into the world that actually exists? How do we introduce them to people who aren't just like them?

Education is the only cure for ignorance.

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The die-hard Trumpsters are 100% convinced that (Original Post) annabanana Oct 2016 OP
I've been thinking about this too. How does any community deprogram people after brainwashing? mahina Oct 2016 #1
They have to want GWC58 Oct 2016 #28
Hopefully When Hillary Becomes President And Is Able To Make Some Strides With Respect To.... global1 Oct 2016 #2
Some other RW idiot would take credit for their advances... annabanana Oct 2016 #4
I seriously doubt it. Kablooie Oct 2016 #12
If The Dems Are Able To Take Back Control Of The Senate And The House.... global1 Oct 2016 #17
Yes but that's reality. Kablooie Oct 2016 #20
I Think If Their Lives Are Improved That Many Of Them.... global1 Oct 2016 #21
Not with things like gun control or immigration reform davidn3600 Oct 2016 #33
That's exactly why the Publicans marybourg Oct 2016 #3
Exactly! annabanana Oct 2016 #24
Except now they're turning on them. CrispyQ Oct 2016 #27
They're turning on them marybourg Oct 2016 #37
Cheeto has started a cult and they need to be deprogrammed as they do for cult members kimbutgar Oct 2016 #5
anyone got a blinkie-thingie? annabanana Oct 2016 #7
We really could use that right now and have someone flash it on Fox for a start kimbutgar Oct 2016 #10
Ha hahahaha mahina Oct 2016 #31
Last statement is correct. Cracklin Charlie Oct 2016 #6
You are right of course. annabanana Oct 2016 #8
i will enjoy their disappointment when he loses by historic proportions... spanone Oct 2016 #9
they will not be disappointed.. annabanana Oct 2016 #11
DId you hear them discussing the malaise Oct 2016 #14
yep ....these are voters who no longer believe in the democratic process spanone Oct 2016 #16
Ryan has jumped ship on the 'rigged elections' malaise Oct 2016 #18
delish.....! spanone Oct 2016 #19
More proof that if you think education is expensive malaise Oct 2016 #13
That statement can not be repeated enough times! salin Oct 2016 #34
I had a Teeshirt with that on it decades ago malaise Oct 2016 #35
First, you have to catch them at that moment when they surface to breathe. Coyotl Oct 2016 #15
Trumpanzees flinging their own poo isn't news Bucky Oct 2016 #22
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level dalton99 Oct 2016 #25
I like that quote! underpants Oct 2016 #29
If we don't do something about hate radio, I don't think it will change. CrispyQ Oct 2016 #26
Hate radio is dwindling in influence. The problem is TV "news" underpants Oct 2016 #30
The trumpsters live in their own alternative realiaty Gothmog Oct 2016 #32
First they have to be made to understand that they're WRONG. Volaris Oct 2016 #36
I don't think they're "hurting economically" A HERETIC I AM Oct 2016 #38

mahina

(17,696 posts)
1. I've been thinking about this too. How does any community deprogram people after brainwashing?
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:25 PM
Oct 2016

Community-based conversations on reality?

Community debates?

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
28. They have to want
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:23 PM
Oct 2016

to be re, or even, educated. Many of those people are beyond a "re-programming." 😡

global1

(25,270 posts)
2. Hopefully When Hillary Becomes President And Is Able To Make Some Strides With Respect To....
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:26 PM
Oct 2016

infrastructure and jobs, education and paying down loans, Wall St. reforms and taxing the rich, the economy turning around - these die-hards will begin to see that they were being lied to by hate radio & the Repugs. They will begin to understand who is to blame.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
4. Some other RW idiot would take credit for their advances...
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:31 PM
Oct 2016

and they will believe it.
They have prospered despite the Democrats

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
12. I seriously doubt it.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:57 PM
Oct 2016

In the Bill Clinton years the propagandized anger just kept increasing all during his term.

The right wing elite are going to do everything they can to see that Hillary remains the devil incarnate to the ignorant conservatives. It's the only way the Republicans can get enough votes to compete.
They must hold onto this population with fear and blatant propaganda because once the voters start realizing which party would make their life a little easier the GOP's vote count would tumble.

global1

(25,270 posts)
17. If The Dems Are Able To Take Back Control Of The Senate And The House....
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:51 PM
Oct 2016

Hillary's presidency will be transformational.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
20. Yes but that's reality.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 05:16 PM
Oct 2016

The conservative hoard will still be told over and over again that she's destroying the country and will continue to believe it because reality has never been able to interfere with their delusions.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
33. Not with things like gun control or immigration reform
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 07:44 AM
Oct 2016

You can talk about common ground and making everyone's live better all you want with healthcare and medicare reforms.

But as soon as you talk about gun control or anything they claim resembles "immigration amnesty" passes, it will lead to incredible division and anger.

marybourg

(12,634 posts)
3. That's exactly why the Publicans
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:26 PM
Oct 2016

do everything they can to undermine public education: demonize teachers and their unions, cut taxes, divert what tax money is left to private, religious and "charter" schools, try to control and dumb down textbooks and science curricula, and much more.

A dumb electorate is a Publican electorate.

CrispyQ

(36,509 posts)
27. Except now they're turning on them.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:12 PM
Oct 2016

The GOP courted the loons and bigots and now they're turning on them.

marybourg

(12,634 posts)
37. They're turning on them
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 02:23 PM
Oct 2016

because the leadership establishment, loony and bigoted as they are, aren't loony and bigoted enough for the Trumsters. They're not turning on them because they've come to realize how they've been manipulated all these years.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
6. Last statement is correct.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:33 PM
Oct 2016

But, if we want to change them, they must be treated with dignity. No name calling, no trash talking, etc.

That kind of thing works to change exactly zero voter's voting habits.

We should help them focus on how we are alike in what we want/need from our government. Education requires patience and dedication, not force and ridicule.

Just my two cents.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
14. DId you hear them discussing the
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:45 PM
Oct 2016

New Mexico ReTHUG flyer 'your neighbor will know' if you vote democratic.

spanone

(135,872 posts)
16. yep ....these are voters who no longer believe in the democratic process
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:47 PM
Oct 2016

especially their leader.....

rigged, my ass.

dalton99

(781 posts)
25. “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:59 PM
Oct 2016

and then beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain

CrispyQ

(36,509 posts)
26. If we don't do something about hate radio, I don't think it will change.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:08 PM
Oct 2016

I don't have the answer, but I know that 18 months of listening to Limbaugh turned my mom into a right winger. The first inkling I had of the change in her was when she started bashing teachers. It went downhill from there. Everyone was to blame except for the lying, manipulative bastards of the GOP.

underpants

(182,877 posts)
30. Hate radio is dwindling in influence. The problem is TV "news"
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 11:10 PM
Oct 2016

The broadcast of their proven failed ideals give them credibility. TV, like most industries, is a copycat business - as long as Fox stays #1 the others will follow them down rabbit holes endlessly.

The bashing of teachers is clearly an effort to dumb down the population but the root of the attack is racist. I heard this once on talk radio and had to look it up. Teachers union, specifically the NEA, began amongst black educators. You can carry that out along their normal whackadoodle line of thinking.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
36. First they have to be made to understand that they're WRONG.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:46 AM
Oct 2016

Delivering an existential asskicking to them in 5 weeks is the only place you can start, otherwise it's wasted energy.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
38. I don't think they're "hurting economically"
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 02:42 PM
Oct 2016

I saw somewhere - can't remember now where, maybe the Daily Show or Bill Maher - that the average Trump rally attendee makes a comfortable middle class living.

But they are less well educated as a rule and are looking for someone to blame for their lot in life as "frustrated millionaires", as the old saying goes.

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