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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 09:00 AM Oct 2016

Looks Likely That Voters Will Deliver Divided Government Again With All Its Gridlock.

Even though we won't know is the Democrats take control down ticket until after the election it looks like we will have divided government again. Hopefully we will have a landslide for Democrats through and through, but it looks tight and really may not happen.

Having divided government means round two of total obstruction of anything Hillary and the Democrats want to do. McCain has already signaled that she will never get a Supreme Court justice unless it is another Scalia. Otherwise there will be NO judges for the next two years.

At the state level we will see hoards of more onerous legislation. And much of it will be about anti choice laws that take away a women's right to even get health care reproductively.

The GOP is like a waiting snake and will lurk until it can really destroy government and install dictatorship.

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Looks Likely That Voters Will Deliver Divided Government Again With All Its Gridlock. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Oct 2016 OP
The Senate confirms judges and polls show the Democrats seem likely to regain the Senate. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2016 #1
It's best to see things realistically. We MIGHT take the Senate (and the House). But we might not. randome Oct 2016 #2
Your daily TMN gloom post, ladies and gents alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #3
Legally and procedurally, what happens if an oppositional Pub Congress refuses Nay Oct 2016 #4
First, only the Senate is required to confirm judges, the House has no role. PoliticAverse Oct 2016 #5
Elections are the only such mechanism. tritsofme Oct 2016 #7
The Senate is unknown Peaches999 Oct 2016 #6
I guess we're all doomed, then... MineralMan Oct 2016 #8
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2016 #9
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. It's best to see things realistically. We MIGHT take the Senate (and the House). But we might not.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 09:30 AM
Oct 2016

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Nay

(12,051 posts)
4. Legally and procedurally, what happens if an oppositional Pub Congress refuses
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:05 AM
Oct 2016

to confirm ANY judge that Hillary nominates? At what point does some other mechanism take over the appointment of Supreme Court judges? Or is there no mechanism, and obstruction can go on for years?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
5. First, only the Senate is required to confirm judges, the House has no role.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 11:25 AM
Oct 2016

What would eventually likely happen is the President makes a recess appointment when the next
real recess occurs (on this see: http://www.scotusblog.com/2016/02/is-a-recess-appointment-to-the-court-an-option/ )

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
7. Elections are the only such mechanism.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 01:49 PM
Oct 2016

That's why it is so important to win the Senate this year.

 

Peaches999

(118 posts)
6. The Senate is unknown
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 12:56 PM
Oct 2016

To say for certain right now either the democrats or republicans control the senate in 2017 is presumptuous. If the senate is 50-50, the democrats still have a hard time pushing through some judicial nominees.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
8. I guess we're all doomed, then...
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 03:50 PM
Oct 2016

Here's the thing: This country is almost always saddled with a divided government. It's rare for that not to be the case. We still have almost half of the population adhering to Republican values. We wobble back and forth every couple of years, but never seem to find a stable balance that is not divided.

I do not expect that to change, frankly. It's the nature of our vast nation and its many regions. Its diversity, too, plays a role in the division. We're going to have a Democratic President for four years, and likely a Democratic Senate, so it's likely to weigh on the Democratic side for about four years. Then, though, it's just as likely to wobble back to division again, as it does over and over again.

And yet, we continue to make progress. Slowly and haltingly, but we do make progress.

Enjoy the scale tipping to the left while you can. Don't mourn. It's a good thing. Embrace the change we do get, rather than bemoaning the fact that it isn't a wholesale and permanent shift. We can work while it's tipped that way to make positive change.

This is not a time for gloom and doomsaying. Truly it is not. It is a time to put our shoulders down and push as hard as we can.

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