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napi21

(45,806 posts)
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 10:03 PM Oct 2016

Sildiers forced to repay enlistment bonuses.

Soldiers Struggling to Repay Enlistment Bonuses Issued in Error

After 21 years in the military, three deployments, and a roadside bomb blast that left him bleeding and unconscious, Christopher Van Meter got a letter from the Pentagon saying he improperly received enlistment bonuses and now owed the government $46,000.

The military has long paid re-enlistment bonuses and given other incentives, like repayment of college loans, to keep highly trained and desirable personnel in the service. The practice accelerated during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The budget for re-enlistment incentives nearly doubled between 2000 and 2008 to $1.4 billion according to the RAND Corporation.

During that time, the California Guard held seminars where troops filed through an assembly line-style re-enlistment process. The re-enlistments was overseen by a master sergeant named Toni L. Jaffe of Citrus Heights, Calif., who lavished troops with bonuses and forgiveness of student loans. A federal inquiry in 2010 estimated that as much as $100 million in improper bonuses might have been paid. The Guard says that total is closer to $70 million. Ms. Jaffe, who has since left the military, pleaded guilty in 2012 to approving more than $15 million in fraudulent claims.

The case sparked a detailed review of the re-enlistment program, with dozens of auditors combing through the 35,000 records.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/25/us/national-guard-bonuses-california.html

These soldiers shouldn't have to repay this $$. Hang the Sergent who signed the orders! Those guys didn't do anything wrong.

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Sildiers forced to repay enlistment bonuses. (Original Post) napi21 Oct 2016 OP
Sergeant's don't sign orders Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #1
15 millon dollars as compared to the half trillion plus we give to the military now Javaman Oct 2016 #2
So Much For "Supporting Our Troops" Huh, Java? ProfessorGAC Oct 2016 #3
I'm sure lockheed martin is always held to task when they have accounting errors right? LOL Javaman Oct 2016 #4
I Concur ProfessorGAC Oct 2016 #5
Lotsa luck with that... meaculpa2011 Oct 2016 #7
That's A Drag! ProfessorGAC Oct 2016 #8
Perfect time for Obama to step in--I HOPE librechik Oct 2016 #6
This seems like an easy fix... lame54 Oct 2016 #9

Javaman

(65,176 posts)
2. 15 millon dollars as compared to the half trillion plus we give to the military now
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 07:07 AM
Oct 2016

is a drop in the bucket.

Let the soldiers keep their money and throw jaffe in jail.

ProfessorGAC

(75,888 posts)
3. So Much For "Supporting Our Troops" Huh, Java?
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 07:24 AM
Oct 2016

It's all talk. Support our troops. Now we make a mistake, the soldiers don't know it was an error, they spend the money and then get "pay it back".

But, as long as we all stand for a song about a flag!

Javaman

(65,176 posts)
4. I'm sure lockheed martin is always held to task when they have accounting errors right? LOL
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 07:37 AM
Oct 2016

many a soldier has to use welfare to get by and now these cretins are going after them. Many of them wounded in battle.

this is just disgraceful.

ProfessorGAC

(75,888 posts)
5. I Concur
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:38 AM
Oct 2016

And i'm not the gung ho, "love our military" type guy. But, this is just wrong. Government made the mistake. Government should eat the cost.

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
7. Lotsa luck with that...
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 12:58 PM
Oct 2016

The government determined that a $1,700 capital gain was actually $170,000 even though the selling price of the stock was less than $20,000.

That was three years ago.

They just sent me a check for the excess tax they levied, now I have to fight them for the interest and penalties they withheld from subsequent refunds.

It was a nightmare just to get them to admit their mistake.

ProfessorGAC

(75,888 posts)
8. That's A Drag!
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 07:00 AM
Oct 2016

Sorry to hear that mea. I agree with your sentiment, but the whole "support our troops" thing rings even more hollow when the government themselves decide that the troops aren't worth supporting.

lame54

(39,228 posts)
9. This seems like an easy fix...
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 08:35 AM
Oct 2016

Just stop

The military bleeds money from every pore

Recovering every penny would not change a thing

As for the vets its adding contempt to insult and injury

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