Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:08 AM
OnDoutside (19,797 posts)
Drum roll please....Top story on Morning Joe is .....
Wikileak emails/Clinton Foundation/Speaking fees
Wow, there's a surprise. ![]()
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OnDoutside | Oct 2016 | OP |
apcalc | Oct 2016 | #1 | |
Sancho | Oct 2016 | #2 | |
awake | Oct 2016 | #3 | |
GreenPartyVoter | Oct 2016 | #4 | |
awake | Oct 2016 | #5 | |
GreenPartyVoter | Oct 2016 | #6 | |
Foggyhill | Oct 2016 | #9 | |
awake | Oct 2016 | #15 | |
HarmonyRockets | Oct 2016 | #11 | |
Foggyhill | Oct 2016 | #13 | |
awake | Oct 2016 | #16 | |
Foggyhill | Oct 2016 | #19 | |
awake | Oct 2016 | #20 | |
Foggyhill | Oct 2016 | #21 | |
awake | Oct 2016 | #59 | |
Foggyhill | Oct 2016 | #62 | |
awake | Oct 2016 | #63 | |
emulatorloo | Oct 2016 | #51 | |
awake | Oct 2016 | #57 | |
emulatorloo | Oct 2016 | #58 | |
JI7 | Oct 2016 | #28 | |
uponit7771 | Oct 2016 | #47 | |
Arkansas Granny | Oct 2016 | #7 | |
Coolest Ranger | Oct 2016 | #8 | |
GWC58 | Oct 2016 | #10 | |
Foggyhill | Oct 2016 | #12 | |
anamandujano | Oct 2016 | #52 | |
Old Vet | Oct 2016 | #24 | |
MrModerate | Oct 2016 | #14 | |
anamandujano | Oct 2016 | #53 | |
malaise | Oct 2016 | #17 | |
OnDoutside | Oct 2016 | #22 | |
Foggyhill | Oct 2016 | #25 | |
OnDoutside | Oct 2016 | #37 | |
Ghost of Tom Joad | Oct 2016 | #18 | |
lindysalsagal | Oct 2016 | #26 | |
GreenPartyVoter | Oct 2016 | #29 | |
lindysalsagal | Oct 2016 | #50 | |
JI7 | Oct 2016 | #56 | |
Ruth Bonner | Oct 2016 | #27 | |
Foggyhill | Oct 2016 | #30 | |
uponit7771 | Oct 2016 | #48 | |
EV_Ares | Oct 2016 | #31 | |
sarae | Oct 2016 | #33 | |
EV_Ares | Oct 2016 | #36 | |
Vinca | Oct 2016 | #32 | |
sarae | Oct 2016 | #34 | |
OnDoutside | Oct 2016 | #39 | |
Stuckinthebush | Oct 2016 | #35 | |
OnDoutside | Oct 2016 | #38 | |
Stuckinthebush | Oct 2016 | #40 | |
sarae | Oct 2016 | #41 | |
LenaBaby61 | Oct 2016 | #55 | |
Ilsa | Oct 2016 | #42 | |
dalton99 | Oct 2016 | #45 | |
LuvLoogie | Oct 2016 | #46 | |
CTyankee | Oct 2016 | #49 | |
MFM008 | Oct 2016 | #54 | |
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Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:13 AM
apcalc (4,419 posts)
1. Ridiculous.
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:13 AM
Sancho (9,018 posts)
2. no one is listening....
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Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:14 AM
awake (3,226 posts)
3. Surprise Surprise Bill does some thing which is not helpful to Hillary
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:18 AM
GreenPartyVoter (72,324 posts)
4. If Trump wasn't so darned grotesque, this kind of baggage would have been a huge
problem.
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Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #4)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:22 AM
awake (3,226 posts)
5. This IS a problem !
We were on track to win back the Senate and possible the house as well, now we have to fight hard to keep the White House. Bill Inc. and his friends are Hillary's biggest problem.
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Response to awake (Reply #5)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:27 AM
GreenPartyVoter (72,324 posts)
6. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. I just think that Trump is distracting from it somewhat.
Response to awake (Reply #5)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:34 AM
Foggyhill (1,060 posts)
9. Except this info was already mostly public
Nothing wrong really
Again "optics"... Ex Sanders folks online jumping up and down and saying see see. Beyond tiresome and disloyal |
Response to Foggyhill (Reply #9)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:48 AM
awake (3,226 posts)
15. Oh so Bill inc. asking for $66,000'000 over nine years is caused by "Ex Sanders folks"
Wake up Hillary still has "Bill problem" I hope Penndea and Mook can help us get beyond this, my fear is what Bill will say today or tomorrow. Bill not "Ex Sanders folks" is the issue, most Sander's supporters are pulling for Hillary.
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Response to awake (Reply #5)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:40 AM
HarmonyRockets (397 posts)
11. I'm starting to think that maybe
deep down inside Bill does not want his wife to become president.
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Response to HarmonyRockets (Reply #11)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:43 AM
Foggyhill (1,060 posts)
13. Did you actually read about this
Or is this your gut feeling...
Good grief, no wonder the Us is going into the crapper if it's so easy to get a negative reaction from some poorly understood complex info |
Response to HarmonyRockets (Reply #11)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:50 AM
awake (3,226 posts)
16. I have had the same feeling about Bill since watching how he undercut Hillary in 2008
Response to awake (Reply #16)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:59 AM
Foggyhill (1,060 posts)
19. Reading your rant about Bill above
The person îm mad at is you
Getting money from speeches is not fucking illegal or even fucking unethical and the 66m is already public in their god damn taxes It may be outrageous to you that someone gets paid that much, but that's your problem Îm reporting what I read on daily kaos, these people purporting to be sanders supporters said sanders was right blah blah blah and then I saw your rant the money for speeches which is more of the same basically So spare me your grand standing I didn't say all Sanders voters were like that but there is about 10% that enrages |
Response to Foggyhill (Reply #19)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:07 AM
awake (3,226 posts)
20. You can get as mad at me as you want but I still believe Hillary still has a problem named Bill
Not every body in this country feels as comfortable with Bill's actions as you do.
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Response to awake (Reply #20)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:08 AM
Foggyhill (1,060 posts)
21. Yet hes still got less unfavourable than her
Response to Foggyhill (Reply #21)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 01:50 PM
awake (3,226 posts)
59. Bill is not running Hillary is
And Hillary will make Great President
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Response to awake (Reply #59)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 05:31 PM
Foggyhill (1,060 posts)
62. So why is this an "issue" then ?
They get much money from speeches and pay all tax owed, they're even willing to pay more
It is a lot money no doubt, but if your a popular ex president, people want to see and hear you |
Response to Foggyhill (Reply #62)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:41 PM
awake (3,226 posts)
63. As James Carville said...
"Pressed on whether the Clinton Foundation should have clamped down on foreign donations before Clinton became secretary of state, Carville responded, "If you ask me as a political adviser, of course."
The Clinton Foundation does great work but I agree that politicly it has become a problem. Like when Bill went on board the Attorney General's plane uninvited right before the FBI report on the email server, while not illegal politicly it look bad, one more of the many times Bills actions have not helped our cause. |
Response to awake (Reply #20)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 11:27 AM
emulatorloo (43,298 posts)
51. Classic case of confirmation bias going on with you.
What Is a Confirmation Bias? Examples and Observations
https://www.verywell.com/what-is-a-confirmation-bias-2795024 You dislike Bill Clinton so you believe everybody dislikes him, contrary to evidence otherwise. You're predisposed to believe anything negative about Bill and Hillary Clintons whether it is factual or not. You believe any negative spin by these obviously bad actors is 'fact.' ----- What Is a Confirmation Bias? A confirmation bias is a type of cognitive bias that involves favoring information that confirms previously existing beliefs or biases. For example, imagine that a person holds a belief that left-handed people are more creative than right-handed people. Whenever this person encounters a person that is both left-handed and creative, they place greater importance on this "evidence" supporting their already existing belief. This individual might even seek "proof" that further backs up this belief while discounting examples that do not support this idea. Confirmation biases impact how people gather information, but they also influence how people interpret and recall information. For example, people who support or oppose a particular issue will not only seek information that supports their beliefs, they will also interpret news stories in a way that upholds their existing ideas and remember things in a way that also reinforces these attitudes. Examples of Confirmation Biases in Action Consider the debate over gun control. Sally is in support of gun control. She seeks out news stories and opinion pieces that reaffirm the need for limitations on gun ownership. When she hears stories about shootings in the media, she interprets them in a way that supports her existing beliefs. Henry, on the other hand, is adamantly opposed to gun control. He seeks out news sources that are aligned with his position, and when he comes across news stories about shootings, he interprets them in a way that supports his current point of view. The Impact of Confirmation Biases A number of experiments conducted during the 1960s demonstrated that people have a tendency to seek information that confirms their existing beliefs. Unfortunately, this type of bias can prevent us from looking at situations objectively, can influence the decisions we make, and can lead to poor or faulty choices. During an election season, for example, people tend to seek positive information that paints their favored candidates in a good light while looking for information that casts the opposing candidate in a negative light. By not seeking out objective facts, interpreting information in a way that only supports their existing beliefs, and only remembering details that uphold these beliefs, people often miss important information that might have otherwise influenced their decision on which candidate to support. |
Response to emulatorloo (Reply #51)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 01:46 PM
awake (3,226 posts)
57. I do not need any confirmation about Bill
I for years have had issues with Bill, you and others may like him I do not need anyone to confirm my belief that Bill's actions have not always helped Hillary or our party. I believe that Hillary will make a great POTUS I fully support her, we can not undo what Bill has done in the past I just hope he stays out of the way for the next 2 weeks
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Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #4)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:32 AM
JI7 (88,319 posts)
28. it's not really baggage at all.
Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #4)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:11 AM
uponit7771 (89,624 posts)
47. So there's no caveats to this story either!?!?
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:30 AM
Arkansas Granny (31,267 posts)
7. If it wasn’t the emails, it would be something else.
It's in the best interest of the media to make this contest look like a horse race so they can sensationalize it.
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Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:33 AM
Coolest Ranger (2,034 posts)
8. and that's why Morning Joe
to quote my favorite TV husband "Can Suck my nuts."
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Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:35 AM
GWC58 (2,678 posts)
10. These leaks keep getting worse!
Russia is really trying to throw this election to a raving lunatic. God help us if they're successful!!😱😳😩 I fucking hate that rapist holed up in London, too
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Response to GWC58 (Reply #10)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:40 AM
Foggyhill (1,060 posts)
12. Most of this was already public
Funny on a the media never talk the info has been stolen, no issue with that |
Response to Foggyhill (Reply #12)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 11:55 AM
anamandujano (7,004 posts)
52. They would talk stolen if some of their emails were released. Since tRump is mad at them,
maybe the hackers are already on the case.
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Response to GWC58 (Reply #10)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:18 AM
Old Vet (2,001 posts)
24. All the E-mails there talking about were already public. Same ol Nothing.........
Good-Bye MSNBC...............
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Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:44 AM
MrModerate (9,753 posts)
14. You woke me up for that? n/t
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:50 AM
malaise (261,845 posts)
17. JoeScum is desperate
I turned it off
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Response to malaise (Reply #17)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:08 AM
OnDoutside (19,797 posts)
22. So did I. You can see the rest of them being afraid to cross him.
Response to OnDoutside (Reply #22)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:19 AM
Foggyhill (1,060 posts)
25. Hes so weak at rethotic and logic
That I don't get why people just blow him away
Will he cut your mic if you attempt to do so |
Response to Foggyhill (Reply #25)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:26 AM
OnDoutside (19,797 posts)
37. Probably because you won't get invited back on, and that would be costly for most of them.
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 06:58 AM
Ghost of Tom Joad (1,328 posts)
18. It was truly horrible this morning
and they all did it with a gleam in their eyes to quote Don Henley. After I saw where this was going I turned to CNN their eyes were gleaming about tightening polls.
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Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:19 AM
lindysalsagal (19,678 posts)
26. Only the rich can run for president. All rich people do this stuff.
It won't change until we change election law, and un-gerrymander the house districts.
We are still being lead by the super rich. Somehow humans still believe that only rich people can govern. There's no avoiding this with our current laws. |
Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #26)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:36 AM
GreenPartyVoter (72,324 posts)
29. Such a vicious circle, electing the rich who write laws to benefit themselves.
Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #29)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 11:20 AM
lindysalsagal (19,678 posts)
50. Almost as bad as the european monarchies of the 17th century.
Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #26)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 01:26 PM
JI7 (88,319 posts)
56. Obama was not rich.
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:26 AM
Ruth Bonner (192 posts)
27. WaPo has an article too
The gist of which is that Chelsea raised concerns, saying that WJC would be horrified if he knew some of the things that were happening and WJC returned a huge portion of his speaking fees that year to avoid any appearance of impropriety. That doesn't seem so scandalous to me.
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Response to Ruth Bonner (Reply #27)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:47 AM
Foggyhill (1,060 posts)
30. So, nothing as usual
Yet sac of crap is sillhidding his taxes and the media don't give a shit |
Response to Ruth Bonner (Reply #27)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:13 AM
uponit7771 (89,624 posts)
48. ++++++++++++SCANDAL CAVEAT HERE+++++++++++++++++++++++
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:50 AM
EV_Ares (6,587 posts)
31. That show is really, reallly bad & more disgusting than even fox because they try to claim a higher
ground of not being right-wing. Mika is always saying I am for Hillary yet she backstabs, undercuts every chance she gets.
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Response to EV_Ares (Reply #31)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:05 AM
sarae (3,284 posts)
33. Joe and Mika always lambast others for acting "self-righteous"
but they're the first to point the finger at the Clintons and act outraged and shocked about trivial shit and "bad optics."
They have to be the biggest hypocrites ever. Mika is the biggest concern troll out there, saying she'll vote for Hillary but taking every opportunity she can to undercut her. They're insufferable. The only time I can watch their show is when Hillary is doing really well. LOL, I like to hate-watch them just to see them squirm. |
Response to sarae (Reply #33)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:20 AM
EV_Ares (6,587 posts)
36. I believe, because really hard to figure those hypocripts out that all they are is self-promoters,
only out for themselves. Have never understood why they just don't move to fox but maybe fox doesn't even want them & they are not good enough to get to CNN.
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Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:55 AM
Vinca (49,757 posts)
32. I just said to my husband that it sounds like Trump TV this morning.
I turned it on because I thought they might lead with the voter intimidation story Rachel broke. Haven't heard a peep about that yet.
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Response to Vinca (Reply #32)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:09 AM
sarae (3,284 posts)
34. Voter intimidation? Not a peep from them.
Instead it's all about how "sleazy", "trashy" and "corrupt" the Clintons are, and how dare the Clintons try to say that about Trump and Co.
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Response to sarae (Reply #34)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:28 AM
OnDoutside (19,797 posts)
39. And that's a major story broken by their MSNBC colleague !
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:15 AM
Stuckinthebush (10,780 posts)
35. I beg all of you....
Stop watching that show. Turn to CNN. The only way to get Joe and Mika off morning TV is to stop giving them ratings.
MSNBC can do better and they will if you speak with your remote. CNN isn't half bad. |
Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #35)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:28 AM
OnDoutside (19,797 posts)
38. It's a bit like trying to kick the Diet Coke habit...you know it's bad for you, but you keep going
back for more ....
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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #38)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:32 AM
Stuckinthebush (10,780 posts)
40. Great analogy!
But let's keep trying to kick that nasty habit!
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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #38)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:34 AM
sarae (3,284 posts)
41. haha
This is so true. I don't want to contribute to their ratings, but it's hard to quit because I find them so insufferable that I love to watch their reactions when Clinton is doing really well.
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Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #35)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 12:40 PM
LenaBaby61 (6,743 posts)
55. I beg all of you....
You don't have to tell me Stuckinthebush.
I stopped watching those monkey's Mika & Joe throwing feces YEARS ago. And currently, I'm too busy that early in the morning still phone banking in time zones 3 hours ahead of my own trying to make sure Democrats get out to vote for Hillary/Tim to watch Morning Ho. You'd think that dumb as a bag of hammers Joe would by now have shown some remorse about that DEAD intern in his office he was dating, or that bobble-headed Mika would be worried about her image as being seen as his now divorced side-piece but alleged married side-piece a few years ago. As for the CGI thing, I don't believe ANYTHING coming from Wikileaks, or from the rapist hold up in an Ecuadoran embassy Assange whose out there hawking stolen emails which he hopes will turn the election for his bromance tRump. Secondly, you have a foreign entity in Russia whose ex-KGB agent is interfering in OUR elections and at the very least hoping to that the big, dumb, bloated, insane, lying, racist, misogynistic monkey's ass elected so he (Putin Tang), can pretty much run rough-shod all over Europe and do as he pleases. His grifting buddy tRump--whose not a billionaire at all--would love to use the USA as his giant slush fund (Like he does his foundation) to pay back the Chinese & Russian Oligarchs the billions in any way he CAN that he owes them because he can no longer get money loaned to him by the USA because he's such a horrible lending risk ![]() Yeah break over. Let me get back to and finish my phone banking for today .... ![]() |
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:42 AM
Ilsa (61,518 posts)
42. So nothing new. Boring Joe is a better name. nt
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 09:28 AM
dalton99 (781 posts)
45. Is it medically possible to extricate his mouth from Trump's anal appendage?
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:05 AM
LuvLoogie (6,495 posts)
46. Some of you are addicted to anxiety endorphins. These talking heads aren't journalists...
They're game show hosts.
I don't have cable TV. Tried Direct TV for about two weeks several years ago. I haven't watched TV much since the broadcast signal went digital in 2009. I don't even have a TV. I have a TV tuner card on my pc, so I can catch the occasional ball game or Olympic event. Whenever I see the TV news at my Mom's house, or elsewhere, it's like WWF or the Hunger Games. |
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:17 AM
CTyankee (62,709 posts)
49. Only ONCE did Mika murmur "The foundation does good work..." and Joe gave it a backhanded
compliment. ONCE in that whole dump on CGI!
I hope that tomorrow they have an expert on to clarify HOW MUCH the Foundation GIVES AWAY! Joe was disparaging the work it did in Haiti. I didn't see him stepping up and starting a foundation to help places like Haiti. Today was lower than the usual. Joe doesn't know how ugly he has gotten. I hope he's taking his meds come January when HRC is sworn in as our next POTUS... |
Response to OnDoutside (Original post)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 12:11 PM
MFM008 (19,726 posts)
54. Not giving a rats ass
Part ll.
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