Excuse me while I clear my throat (ahem)

[angrychair]

IN-PERSON VOTER FRAUD HAS NO ABILITY TO IMPACT A NATIONAL ELECTION!!!!

Why the hell are we still having this discussion? Even if we concede the extreme situation in the recent promise keepers hate group rhetoric that they are watching for "bus loads of people" going from polling station to polling station to vote over and over again. First, as who? Second, how effective is that really? Even if you race, as fast as you can, with a tour bus full of people (about 60) and you race through several polling stations, (say 10) and you have a dozen groups in every state in the union, you may have managed to add 360,000 votes nationwide.
Math: 60ppl*10stops*12teams in state*50states=
360,000 in-person voter fraud votes cast nationwide.

There were 118 million votes cast in 2012.
So what is the impact to the integrity of our national vote? Less than 1%...a lot less
Math: 360,000/118,000,000 is .00305 or .3%

While you can make an argument for in-person voter fraud impacting smaller, odd-year, local elections, there is no realistic way to impact a national or even statewide election with in-person voter fraud.

Feel free to pass it on...

[VWolf]

1. I see your problem

You're using that MATH thingy. Trump supporters do not compute.

[gratuitous]

2. Funny how the voter fraud nonsense falls apart

You can apply it to smaller venues, as well. For example, Colorado went for Obama over Romney by 140,000 votes. Let's assume that voter fraud flipped that state, and it should have gone in the Romney column.

Let's posit a tour bus full of frauds, 70 people. To generate 140,000 fraudulent votes, each one of those 70 people would have to cast 2,000 fraudulent votes. Okay, that's probably not likely. So let's say there's two buses. That's still going to be 1,000 votes each and every one of those frauds is going to have to cast. 20 buses means 100 votes each. Nope, let's go to 200 buses packed with 70 people racing around Colorado so that each co-conspirator casts 10 fraudulent ballots. Nobody sees these 200 buses. Nobody notices their stops. Nobody catches wise at all.

Far-fetched, but let's assume that the fraudulent voters pull it off.

That means that 1,400 people all kept mum about this. Nobody told their spouse or parents or kids or friends about this incredible ballot coup. It also means that the brains behind this operation somehow bulls-eyed 140,000 ballots that they knew weren't going to be voted otherwise. They didn't get the ballot for John Smith Jr. confused with the ballot for the recently-deceased John Smith Sr. They didn't ask for the ballot of Angel Rodrigues in Precinct 2337 when they really wanted the ballot for Angel Rodriguez in Precinct 2437. None of the poll workers caught wise, none of the poll workers were personally acquainted with voter whose ballot was being fraudulently case. And the perpetrators had the precise ethnic diversity to make sure they didn't make any obvious screw ups.

That's just Colorado, and the relatively small number of votes required to change the state outcome. It's preposterous on its face.

The folks selling the in-person voter fraud nonsense either don't know this, or they know this and they know that the people they're fooling are just that stupid.