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It's turning into a Comey (Original Post) sharp_stick Oct 2016 OP
Smug assholes are the worst kind. spooky3 Oct 2016 #1
Honestly, I'm not sure it's all his fault democrattotheend Oct 2016 #2
Then the letter informing Congress should have been precise exboyfil Oct 2016 #4
Precise and CLASSIFIED n/t teenagebambam Oct 2016 #8
Ten he simply could have said that. BlueStreak Oct 2016 #6
Gosh, that's so logical and explanatory PJMcK Oct 2016 #7
Right. The ambiguity was carefully calibrated to provide grist for the anti-Hillary tblue37 Oct 2016 #22
Not ratings -- ad sales BlueStreak Oct 2016 #31
But ad prices are determined by ratings. nt tblue37 Oct 2016 #32
It is still a feast, even for the lower rated programs BlueStreak Oct 2016 #34
I've read that he might have known about these emails since April. -Steph- Oct 2016 #27
No, it is... Comey didn't have to come out with this shit RIGHT NOW seeing there was no way uponit7771 Oct 2016 #29
Leak what information? They don't know anything yet. yardwork Oct 2016 #30
I want this shit to bring down the 8 members of the bullshit committee Iliyah Oct 2016 #3
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #5
As someone who regularly deals with discovery issues... jberryhill Oct 2016 #9
How does someone specifically send a thousand or so emails to her laptop for printing and not Trust Buster Oct 2016 #10
Again you are jumping to a conclusion jberryhill Oct 2016 #12
Possible, but wouldn't it occur to Abedin that the FBI scouring that computer while investigating Trust Buster Oct 2016 #14
No jberryhill Oct 2016 #17
Just a point, she didn't have physical control of the computer. The Feds seized the computer from Trust Buster Oct 2016 #18
There is a discussion in this thread LeftInTX Oct 2016 #15
Thank you for this source. Trust Buster Oct 2016 #16
Oh for the love of whatever. That is just bullshit. rateyes Oct 2016 #11
Abedin signed a sworn statement. It turned out to be false. You don't think that it would be in Trust Buster Oct 2016 #13
I haven't heard this before. Could you provide me with some evidence? anamandujano Oct 2016 #19
Sure Trust Buster Oct 2016 #24
They've had Weiner's laptop for months. Is this the device you claim she lied about? anamandujano Oct 2016 #28
She was wrong. Not lying. n/t pnwmom Oct 2016 #21
There's no indication she lied. She is probably not computer savvy enough pnwmom Oct 2016 #20
I'm looking forward to Abedin's talent, loyalty & skill thru all 8 years of Clinton's administration NBachers Oct 2016 #26
A Comey-dy of Errors. C Moon Oct 2016 #23
a Comey of errors Bucky Oct 2016 #25
It's turning into a GOP-shoots-self-in-feet story! McCamy Taylor Oct 2016 #33

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
2. Honestly, I'm not sure it's all his fault
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:10 PM
Oct 2016

I read that he was concerned that if he did nothing, someone on the case would leak the information. That would be a lot worse for the agency and probably for Hillary.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
4. Then the letter informing Congress should have been precise
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:15 PM
Oct 2016

allowing for no credible misrepresentations.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
6. Ten he simply could have said that.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:25 PM
Oct 2016

He could have put out a statement that read

"This is to advise Congress that since last April, we have been aware of other devices and/or computer systems that may have been used to view or print email that had originated on or traversed the so-called Clinton private server. In the normal course of our processing of an unrelated case, we will undertake to correlate this information with the materials already provided by Secretary Clinton. At this time, we have no reason to believe any classified information is involved with these additional devices and systems, and we have no reason to believe that our investigation will identify any significant new messages we have not already examined. If such new and pertinent information does emerge, I will further notify Congress."

That is how a truthful person would write the letter if they honestly felt that this information required a specific notice to Congress.

PJMcK

(22,056 posts)
7. Gosh, that's so logical and explanatory
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:27 PM
Oct 2016

No Republican could ever issue such a concise and honest statement.

BlueStreak, perhaps you should become a spokesperson for Director Comey! (wink)

tblue37

(65,490 posts)
22. Right. The ambiguity was carefully calibrated to provide grist for the anti-Hillary
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:31 PM
Oct 2016

narratives of the GOP, the media that just want a close race for the sake of ratings, and the media that are in the bag for the GOP because they serve as the propaganda arm for the Republicans.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
31. Not ratings -- ad sales
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 02:46 PM
Oct 2016

If you have ever worked with anybody who is involved in ad sales, there are three big feasts, and they are all spaced 4 years apart. They are Winter Olympics, Summer Olympics, and Presidential election years.

And unlike the Olympics, every outlet can bank a lot from the political ads. This is what makes the business worth being in.

But when there is no horse race, nobody spends millions on ads. So the primary job of the "news departments" is to create the hysteria that will force political campaigns into spending their ad money. It really isn't complicated.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
34. It is still a feast, even for the lower rated programs
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:33 PM
Oct 2016

That is the point. This is where they make their money. Their income isn't just "lumpy", it is really a gorge-fest during political season. The networks will do ANYTHING to pressure campaigns to feel like they have to spend the ad money.

This campaign finance thing is right at the core of all of our problems as a nation.

I'm not trying to be pedantic about the difference between ratings and ad sales. Ratings are more of a long-term thing. Everybody makes bank on the political ads if they can all make it look like a horse race. There is absolutely no incentive for honest, objective coverage from ANY TV network (high ratings or lower ratings.) The incentives are all about stoking controveries and manufacturing drama where none actually exists.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
29. No, it is... Comey didn't have to come out with this shit RIGHT NOW seeing there was no way
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:30 AM
Oct 2016

... to know if any of it was related to Clinton or her sever

and

He's politiced the FBI...
FUCK COMEY

Response to sharp_stick (Original post)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. As someone who regularly deals with discovery issues...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:32 PM
Oct 2016

There's a huge difference between someone saying something to the best of their knowledge, and being mistaken, than someone deliberately lying.

It is entirely possible that she had not recalled having used that machine.

You are jumping to a conclusion.
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
10. How does someone specifically send a thousand or so emails to her laptop for printing and not
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:40 PM
Oct 2016

remember having done so ?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. Again you are jumping to a conclusion
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:45 PM
Oct 2016

You do not know the machine in question was used for that purpose.

As discussed extensively in other threads, it is entirely possible to log into one's email account on a machine, which will then synch the entire account on that machine.

If that is the case, then it is entirely possible that the machine does not have a single email on it which has not already been reviewed.
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
14. Possible, but wouldn't it occur to Abedin that the FBI scouring that computer while investigating
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:51 PM
Oct 2016

her husband could turn out to be problematic.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. No
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:56 PM
Oct 2016

Because, consistent with her statement, she was most likely unaware that anything was on it.

It's the same faulty assumption at work in that conclusion - i.e. that she knew it was there.

It's quite obvious she was unaware that there was any email on it. If someone had lied to the FBI about the absence of evidence on a machine, then such a machine would soon be on its way to the bottom of the East River, and not kept around the house.

The circumstances suggest she was genuinely unaware there was anything on it.
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
18. Just a point, she didn't have physical control of the computer. The Feds seized the computer from
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 10:02 PM
Oct 2016

her creepy husband.

LeftInTX

(25,607 posts)
15. There is a discussion in this thread
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:52 PM
Oct 2016

Huma says she doesn't know how her emails got on Weiner's computer. She may have logged onto his computer at one time or another and the email program was merely syncing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512557621

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
13. Abedin signed a sworn statement. It turned out to be false. You don't think that it would be in
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:49 PM
Oct 2016

Hillary's best interests to part ways with her ?

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
28. They've had Weiner's laptop for months. Is this the device you claim she lied about?
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:55 PM
Oct 2016

"In a normal election year, a normal candidate’s close aide who caused even minor embarrassment to a campaign so near to Election Day would be whisked away as quickly as possible to avoid becoming a distraction.

But Huma Abedin is not simply a close aide, she’s a critical member of Hillary Clinton’s tiny inner circle that protects and — at times — enables the deeply flawed and secretive Democratic nominee. "

So they say that Hillary is deeply flawed and secretive. There was no much incentive to read any further but I did.

In other threads, posters have explained that the server sent the same emails to all her devices. Are you claiming that she withheld a laptop because there were unique emails related to work?

edit to add link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2557929

pnwmom

(109,002 posts)
20. There's no indication she lied. She is probably not computer savvy enough
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:28 PM
Oct 2016

to understand that if she'd ever logged into her accounts from her husband's device, and didn't log out, then it was likely saving all her emails -- without her knowledge.

Also, she disclosed all 4 of the accounts she used back in April. The FBI had plenty of time to get to the bottom of this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2557929

NBachers

(17,149 posts)
26. I'm looking forward to Abedin's talent, loyalty & skill thru all 8 years of Clinton's administration
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:41 PM
Oct 2016
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