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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump will either resign or be a one term president
I say resign if all the lawsuits against him hurt him politically, but even if he survives I think he will not seek a second term. Why? 1) His age. 2) I don't think he will find the presidency all that much fun 3) He will want to get back to direct control of his corporation
My guess is that we will be facing either President Pence or VP Pence in 2020. Pence is just as bad or even more dangerous than Trump, imo.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... even with a trillion dollar spike in infrastructure.
I'm open but ... how
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)but if there is a god, maybe she will find a simpler solution.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)help struggling species/planets, earth is sorely in need of it. Every time I read the news, it's like a horror show across the planet.
randome
(34,845 posts)His cabinet positions need Senate approval and that's not a done deal even with the GOP controlling both houses of Congress. There are going to be endless investigations. For a change, legitimate ones. It's going to be one big hot mess for the next 4 years.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)the previously useful idiot to heartless Cheney...
randome
(34,845 posts)All they have is their anger and it will bring them down.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
IphengeniaBlumgarten
(328 posts)Investigations are started by the majority party in the Senate or the House. Trump will have to do something really egregious for the Republicans to investigate their own.... Or the Democrats will have to take back the Senate in 2018.
randome
(34,845 posts)Trump & Co. are that incompetent yet convinced they are pure as the driven snow. That's a combination destined for a bad fall.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
Siwsan
(26,260 posts)He doesn't have a clue what the position of POTUS entails and he is utterly ill equipped to learn. All he wanted, from the start, was the title. He is going to try to 'delegate' all of the responsibilities to members of his cartel. I predict things will start to fall apart within months.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... long.
He's not only clueless but he's not a grinder, nothing in his history says he's up for a POTUS grind
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)doesn't even get there. What then? Constitutional Crisis?
Ms. Toad
(34,066 posts)so don't even go there.
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)as Democrats would do? Let it happen or let the fuckery of the tRump family continue. Which is worse?
Pence is a scary m-fer.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)The presidency isn't about attending giant rallies in your honor but about hard work, reading and interpreting policy for the nation. Very bookish stuff. Since it's said that Trump never has finished a book in his life, I don't think that he'll be able to cope.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... able to make money off of running for president.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)Also, he likely saw it as the ultimate power trip. He LOVES the attention, but not real work.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)This is all boring to him now.
I think he will resign because his conflicts of interests will force him to,because to remedy those conflicts will cost him millions.
One thing we have all learned from this though, is that our Democracy is not as secure as we thought and the Nazi's were able to take over pretty damn easily.
Lets see how the corporate Democrats react to all this after Jan 20th.
crazylikafox
(2,755 posts)I hear rumors that Pence is involved in a big email scandal in Indiana...
That gives us the speaker of the House, third in line...
INdemo
(6,994 posts)Look a Dennis Hastert and Tom Delay,Newt Gingrich..they all got a way with shit
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)Neither would please me, either. If he quits, in many ways Pence is worse IMNSHO. I'm not sure that Trump and the Repubs can fuck up the red states that elected him enough to overcome the coming tidal wave of voter suppression. Repubs are still working for their permanent ruling party. Plus they still have the RW media echo chamber that somehow manages to blame everything on liberalism.
Hard not to think we're decidely fucked.
Ms. Toad
(34,066 posts)Pence is far worse - becuase he has a clue how government actually works and believes all the vile things he says.
My hope is that Trump will be too indifferent and too ignorant to get anything done that isn't smacked down by the courts very quickly.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)that whatever is in that now secret Pence email must be a game changer as Pence plans to go back to Indiana.
Also keep in mind that the security clearances he wants for his kids will require a lot of financial disclosures.
When they learn that, they probably won't be helping him.
And he'll be stuck in the White House without being able to go home.
New York doesn't want 5th Avenue blocked off.
And the White House is a crummy old house compared to what he's used to.
Melania will have a hard time finding a special school for Barron in D.C., so she'll probably be living in New York.
Add your favorite thing.
TimeChaser
(5,551 posts)will Trump's fanboys back him the same way?
Ms. Toad
(34,066 posts)Trump's fanboys aren't, by and large, in Congress to reign in an out-of-control Pence AND some of them are much more closely aligned wtih Pence's dangerous policy ideas than they are with Trump's (to the extent anyone has a clue what Trump's policies are . . .).
TimeChaser
(5,551 posts)But if we're still around come 2020, Pence on the ticket rather than Trump could be a very different election
ileus
(15,396 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)And the lawsuits won't hurt him. His base thinks he farts rainbows, so they will say the lawsuits are all just a liberal conspiracy against him.
Island Blue
(5,815 posts)So much corruption and he hasn't even started. Besides, I think he'll get bored soon.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)For one thing, CEO-style personalities are going to have trouble handling the self-sacrifice that comes with public service.
I heard a joke going around the internet that Trump is going to have trouble living in the White House because he would be downsizing in living quarters.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Every gay and lesbian person who are married will be suddenly be single and it will embolden those who hate them to move against all people suspected of being Gay or Lesbian. People will be able to refuse them service, keep them out of restaurants, not even allow them to buy gas, and can fire them from their jobs.
Places like San Francisco will become a safe haven, but that only means a huge population surge on this city, with housing becoming even more scarce and rents going up by greedy landlords. California will take an influx of people coming from places that hate and resent the LGBT community.
If Pence and the Republicans create new laws against the LGBT community, not even places like California will be immune.