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babylonsister

(171,060 posts)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:08 PM Nov 2016

The dark rigidity of fundamentalist rural America: a view from the inside

The dark rigidity of fundamentalist rural America: a view from the inside
Forsetti
Forsetti's Justice, AlterNet
22 Nov 2016 at 23:59 ET


As the aftermath of the election of Donald Trump is being sorted out, a common theme keeps cropping up from all sides: “Democrats failed to understand white, working-class, fly-over America.”

Trump supporters are saying this. Progressive pundits are saying this. Talking heads across all forms of the media are saying this. Even some Democratic leaders are saying this. It doesn’t matter how many people say it, it is complete bullshit. It is an intellectual/linguistic sleight of hand meant to throw attention away from the real problem. The real problem isn’t east coast elites who don’t understand or care about rural America. The real problem is rural America doesn’t understand the causes of their own situations and fears and they have shown no interest in finding out. They don’t want to know why they feel the way they do or why they are struggling because they don’t want to admit it is in large part because of choices they’ve made and horrible things they’ve allowed themselves to believe.

I grew up in rural, Christian, white America. You’d be hard-pressed to find an area in the country that has a higher percentage of Christians or whites. I spent most of the first 24 years of my life deeply embedded in this culture. I religiously (pun intended) attended their Christian services. I worked off and on, on their rural farms. I dated their calico skirted daughters. I camped, hunted, and fished with their sons. I listened to their political rants at the local diner and truck stop. I winced at their racist/bigoted jokes and epithets that were said more out of ignorance than animosity. I have also watched the town I grew up in go from a robust economy with well-kept homes and infrastructure turn into a struggling economy with shuttered businesses, dilapidated homes, and a broken down infrastructure over the past 30 years. The problem isn’t that I don’t understand these people. The problem is they don’t understand themselves, the reasons for their anger/frustrations, and don’t seem to care to know why.


In deep-red white America, the white Christian God is king, figuratively and literally. Religious fundamentalism is what has shaped most of their belief systems. Systems built on a fundamentalist framework are not conducive to introspection, questioning, learning, change. When you have a belief system that is built on fundamentalism, it isn’t open to outside criticism, especially by anyone not a member of your tribe and in a position of power. The problem isn’t “coastal elites don’t understand rural Americans.” The problem is rural America doesn’t understand itself and will NEVER listen to anyone outside their bubble. It doesn’t matter how “understanding” you are, how well you listen, what language you use…if you are viewed as an outsider, your views are automatically discounted. I’ve had hundreds of discussions with rural white Americans and whenever I present them any information that contradicts their entrenched beliefs, no matter how sound, how unquestionable, how obvious, they WILL NOT even entertain the possibility it might be true. Their refusal is a result of the nature of their fundamentalist belief system and the fact I’m the enemy because I’m an educated liberal.

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The dark rigidity of fundamentalist rural America: a view from the inside (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2016 OP
Posted a link before BSdetect Nov 2016 #1
We are supposed to check before posting, brer cat Nov 2016 #3
I searched for 'dark rigidity'; I only look for babylonsister Nov 2016 #6
K&R BSdetect Nov 2016 #2
Correct unfortunately and really explains the reason pbmus Nov 2016 #4
this was a really excellent article and IMO can't be posted too often renate Nov 2016 #5
Wow.... Abq_Sarah Nov 2016 #7
Yes, that seems to be universal. babylonsister Nov 2016 #8
Excellent article . . annabanana Nov 2016 #9
The entire post is worth reading. spooky3 Nov 2016 #10
This has been posted before, but that's fine. It deserves another look. mountain grammy Nov 2016 #11
I was an immigrant in Rural Trump America 45 years ago Fresh_Start Nov 2016 #12
If only we could ban the Christian religion...then progress could be made. ileus Nov 2016 #13
K&R BSdetect Nov 2016 #14
Thank you for posting this ... I really appreciate it! etherealtruth Nov 2016 #15

brer cat

(24,562 posts)
3. We are supposed to check before posting,
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:28 PM
Nov 2016

but it's easy to miss. For example, your OP had a very different title so unless someone clicked on your thread, it would not be apparent that the two contained the same information.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
4. Correct unfortunately and really explains the reason
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:43 PM
Nov 2016

That this country always shoots itself in the head every once in a while

renate

(13,776 posts)
5. this was a really excellent article and IMO can't be posted too often
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:49 PM
Nov 2016

I'm on DU all the time and miss stuff that's only on the front page of a forum for half a day or whatever, but I think this article is really, really worth a read, so I'm happy to see this again.

Abq_Sarah

(2,883 posts)
7. Wow....
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:03 PM
Nov 2016
When you have a belief system that is built on fundamentalism, it isn’t open to outside criticism, especially by anyone not a member of your tribe and in a position of power.

I find this to be true no matter if the subject is religion or politics.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
9. Excellent article . .
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:36 PM
Nov 2016

They may not have an ounce of malice in their hearts... But critical thinking has to be TAUGHT, early and often.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
11. This has been posted before, but that's fine. It deserves another look.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 12:26 AM
Nov 2016

I hope everyone reads this again and again. There is so much truth here, I'll rec this every time I see it.

Thanks for posting.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
12. I was an immigrant in Rural Trump America 45 years ago
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 05:29 PM
Nov 2016

they didn't want outsiders even then...and it was before the economy left them behind.

We got shit because we spoke funny: we spoke english with an accent.
We were blonde and blue eyed...and got abuse for being foreign.
And this was before fox news and the internet and thousands of radio stations catering to the political splinter that made you happy.
So when I see the voting results in rural counties like mine, I know it isn't what Obama did or what Clinton did or anything other than their own sense that they are worthy....and other people (whether they came from another country or from an urban area) are not worthy.

Its not new, its always been there.



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