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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 03:04 PM Nov 2016

Time to start taking Russian language classes?

Perhaps. For me, I'll just have to refresh my memory of the intensive program the USAF sent me to at Syracuse University. I dusted off some of my books in Russian and will be reading to rebuild my abilities.

With Putin declaring that the Russian border has no end, we may be seeing more Russians here in the US, courtesy of a President Trump, who seems to really, really like Russians.

I'm ready, already, for that. I'll keep an ear open.

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Time to start taking Russian language classes? (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2016 OP
Russian-Republican cabal hatching some fugly plans for the US of A Achilleaze Nov 2016 #1
I have begun greeting anyone I know who supports Trump as comrade liberal N proud Nov 2016 #2
Shouldn't that be "товарищ?" LisaL Nov 2016 #10
Once I am programed to read cyrillic liberal N proud Nov 2016 #14
Perhaps Yonnie3 Nov 2016 #3
I can get alone pretty well in Spanish, MineralMan Nov 2016 #4
Here's a free online course, with spoken MineralMan Nov 2016 #5
I've been trying to sprinkle a little into my posts, da? bluedigger Nov 2016 #6
FFS, and I studied Latin! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #7
Latin will help you with Russian grammar, which is MineralMan Nov 2016 #11
Thanks MM as always! And very interesting as always! Thanks!!! RKP5637 Nov 2016 #15
This should help novices sarisataka Nov 2016 #8
Nyet! nt Are_grits_groceries Nov 2016 #9
idi na hui. moondust Nov 2016 #12
Well, you could say that to a Russian, MineralMan Nov 2016 #13
Mandarin DavidDvorkin Nov 2016 #16
Russia is a second rate country of 145 million. China is first rate country of 1357 million FarCenter Nov 2016 #17

Yonnie3

(17,434 posts)
3. Perhaps
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 03:14 PM
Nov 2016

I recall that it was said we needed to learn Japanese, then Spanish, then Chinese. Now you tell me Russian. I just can't keep up.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
11. Latin will help you with Russian grammar, which is
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 04:14 PM
Nov 2016

highly inflected. All of the Latin cases, moods and other grammar details exist in Russian. People familiar with Latin did very well in the total immersion Russian program I was part of. I was helped by my French, on grammar grounds, too.

People are fearful of the Cyrillic alphabet, but they shouldn't be. Russian is almost entirely pronounced as it is spelled, which helps a great deal. Russian also has borrowed words from many other languages, so the more languages you're familiar with, including Latin, the easier it is learn more quickly.

The biggest problems come from the oldest verbs in Russian, almost all of which are irregular in conjugation. But, you only have a hundred or so commonly-used verbs that are in that category. The rest follow very regular rules. The highly-inflected grammar is also a problem for many, since nouns and adjectives change endings depending on the case, but Latin helps with that, too.

There are a few multi-consonant sounds that are unfamiliar to English speakers and a couple of vowels. Those aren't too hard to master, though, for anyone with an ear for sounds and time to learn them.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
13. Well, you could say that to a Russian,
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 04:44 PM
Nov 2016

(иди нахуй but it's pretty damned rude. You might want to stand out of reach if you do.

Knowing a little Russian isn't all that useful, especially if all you know is how to curse at someone in street language.

I don't recommend it.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
17. Russia is a second rate country of 145 million. China is first rate country of 1357 million
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 08:08 PM
Nov 2016

The value of a network increases faster than the number of participants. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect

So in the digital world, China, with the biggest network of first-language speakers, is the beneficiary of the largest network effect.

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