Rural Texans Complain About Lack Of Healthcare. Hell They Voted To Take It Away From The Rest Of Us

[TheMastersNemesis]

Just saw an article or OP I cannot find about rural Texans complaining about having to go hundreds of miles to get emergency care. There are no nearby ER's or emergency centers and no ambulances either. Some patients have actually died because they cannot get an medical help. They live out in the boonies.

In fact rural America is losing its health care. Well (sorry) shit they voted to take away medical care. What the (sorry) fuck do they think will happen when they put a guy like Trump and and the GOP. I am sure that clinics will expand to their areas under these guys.

I do not know how the hell you reach these idiots when it should be so obvious what the damned answer it. Obama did not do it. Hillary did not do it. The Democrats did not do it. All they and progressives wanted to do is get health care for everyone everywhere. OF COURSE IT IS TOO DAMNED COMMUNISTIC FOR THEM!!!!!!!.

I am really sorry for my cussing folks, but I just want to scream and scream at these people like they do to progressives and Democrats. If they are so independent and stubborn just give one of them having a heart attack a set of paddles and let them shock themselves.

I am tired of hearing, "I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S HEALTH CARE!!. And we damn well know who they mean.

[Lanius]

1. Entitlements for white people is OK, in their book

They're hoping Trump will take the handouts from the blacks and libruls and give it to those who deserve it - hard workin' 'Muricans, i.e. whites.

[TheMastersNemesis]

3. Well You Know I Want To Deny Them Care Because They Would Do The Same To You.

They don't really care about anyone but themselves and we both know it. I know that denying care is not good. But what do you do when they tell you that they will do it to you? They have to suffer conseqences for their wrong headed beliefs.

[Travis_0004]

2. I think a lot or rural health is struggling due to new obamacare regulations

[marybourg]

4. Such as? nt.

[Grey Lemercier]

5. crickets, as usual

[Travis_0004]

10. Sorry, I don't monitor DU 24/7 so I can respond to any comment in 30 seconds.

[Grey Lemercier]

11. fair enough, so let's see some examples

[Travis_0004]

13. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/107832682

Its in the article the OP is talking about.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/12/rural-hospital-closings-federal-reimbursement-medicaid-aca/18532471/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obamacare-hospital-readmissions_us_55f732e1e4b0c2077efbb909

[Grey Lemercier]

15. the third article was eye opening

and unlike 95% of people on here, i will admit I was snarky and wrong


thank you for your follow up

[awoke_in_2003]

25. Thanks for the links

the last one is particularly shocking. We have second world health care, working its way to third.

[moonscape]

30. Is that when 'observation status' became so prevalent?

By not using the 'admitted' classification, hospitals can avoid this. But for the patient, they find they're actually staying in the hospital as an outpatient, which changes the financial picture for them a lot.

[dsc]

8. states which didn't expand medicaid (such as Texas) have seen rural hospitals hurt by Obamacare

Since Medicaid was expanded in the bill, the number of uninsured cared by hospitals was supposed to radically decrease so the funds that the feds used to pay for that care was cut substantially. Those hospitals still have to care for those patients but aren't being paid for that.

[Ilsa]

24. Also due to states like Texas not participating in

Medicaid expansion. Georgia is looking at several decent-sized rural hospitals closing because of lack of Medicaid funding because the state said "No" to expansion. People will have to travel significantly longer to get emergency help. ("Farther" means "longer" travel time in Texas. In places like Georgia with fewer four-lane highways outside of Atlanta, "farther" means "a whole lot longer".)

[world wide wally]

6. I have never heard Obamacare described accurately.

Not once have I heard any surrogate or pundit explain that what Obamacare does is regulate the health insurance companies. No wonder they can keep selling it as another failed government program.

[CousinIT]

7. What "I don't want to pay for someone else's health care" really means...

. . .

As with any other thing provided "publicly," too often we associate public health care with the racial and class "other." Think, for instance, public housing, public transportation, even public education (increasingly) and what is the image that comes to mind of the folks availing themselves of these things? To ask the question is to answer it.

So when conservatives insist their opposition to public health care is only about a philosophical/ideological debate about self-sufficiency/having to pay for other people, etc., they are, frankly lying. It is about their desire to only subsidize the people they want to subsidize. The people whose lives have real value to them. And to hell with the rest.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2009/10/7/790759/-

[smirkymonkey]

9. K&R

[greymattermom]

12. And the lack of health care in rural areas will get much worse

Hospital closings are increasing, and many kept open a few years, but without a major increase in medicaid, they will close. I don't know what those folks expected. This has been known for years. I once suggested that there should be trauma centers within a certain distance, maybe 50-100 miles, along the interstates to maintain federal highway funding.

[minidriver]

14. Not a bad idea

That would cover a fairly large percentage of the population but would still leave some low population areas uncovered (mostly due to the lack of Interstate highways in some areas which led to population centers moving closer to the Interstate highways aka chicken/egg problem).

[napi21]

16. I suppose I'll sound very uncaring but if you choose to live in the boonies, the lack

of many things is all part of it. There are no shopping centers, few if any movie theaters, restaurants, or HOSPITALS! Anyone who opts to live the isolated life has to know that. If you love the woods and really living with nature, that's fine, but you can't them cry because of lack of State or County services. I have no sympathy for them. THEY want that life, they have to accept all the things that go with it.

About 3 or 4 years ago my husband suggested we move closer to our son who lives about 1 1/2 hours away now. It's a nice area in the country. You don't have to worry about your neighbors complaining about you having too many cars, or not mowing your lawn in 2 weeks, and it's quite peaceful. I did some checking and told him I didn't think it was a great ides because their healthcare system isn't very good. Where we live now the HCS is GREAT. Since we are both over 70, you have to think of that. We aren't moving. IT was a decision we both made.

[Ligyron]

17. and then you have places in Florida that have three trauma centers within 100 miles

of each other. They go where the money is and it ain't nowheresville, TX. Unfortunately for them cowboys, it probably never will.

[awoke_in_2003]

27. I have often thought

of retiring out to the boonies in Texas Hill Country (lovely area, BTW). Maybe have 20 or 40 acres, nice porch to sit on while listening to the quiet. The one thing that always squashes that dream is my wife's health. For all the warts of DFW, we have almost unlimited health care choices.

[Coolest Ranger]

18. Tough shit

should have thought about that before you voted for the Republican party. I'm all out of shits and fucks to give. Did I say that out loud

[yardwork]

19. I have been cussing a lot. /nt

[Dreamer Tatum]

20. So they all voted for Trump?

Link please.

[alp227]

21. I might have found that article

Texas Tribune from Jan. 2010: Little Trauma Care in Rural Texas

[joewicker_TX]

22. Thanks to our inept governor

Even the healthcare I pay for through my employer is shit. I live in a crappy west Texas city of over 100,000 and how many walk in clinics are there that take my insurance??? NONE...ZERO...ZIP. So I am left with either going to the new slick walk in ER's and paying $250 and pop (because all of them are considered out of network), or making an appointment with my PCP which usually takes 3 months to get into or driving 25+ miles to the next nearest city. Its a damn shame that the rural Texas people bitching about this crisis are the ones who caused it through their own damn ignorance....sorry, no sympathy here for any of 'em.

[awoke_in_2003]

28. Welcome to DU

may I ask what area of Texas you're in? I am in DFW, wishing I were in the Hill Country.

[joewicker_TX]

31. Thanks!!

I am in the wilds of west Texsa, Odessa to be exact. I lived in Austin for 5 years and loved it.

[SHRED]

23. Box of rocks dumb

[RandySF]

26. That's how Republicans win.

They go to those who lack essentials like health care and give them the opportunity to take them away from others.

[awoke_in_2003]

29. Yep, I know exactly what they mean

too many assholes in this country have bought into the rugged individualist myth. We have lost the sense of society. Most people today don't even know their neighbors. And you know what- that is by design. They keep everyone busting their ass working paycheck to paycheck, that many just don't have the time. Keeping society broken works for the rich.