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Archae

(46,327 posts)
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:36 PM Nov 2016

Marching orders have gone out...

I'm seeing one after another article posted here about how "Big Pharma" is EEEE-VIL, and homeopathy is "natural" and "good."

The Scientologists used to do this to radio call-in shows, send out marching orders to get on the radio show, often using deception, and then say how bad psychiatry is and Scientology is so much better.

I heard it myself on Art Bell's radio show.
He didn't waste any time disconnecting them.

Here we are seeing unrelated to homeopathy articles used to "prove" how good it is.
But it's still total bullshit, and the FDA is finally cracking down on these con artists.

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Marching orders have gone out... (Original Post) Archae Nov 2016 OP
Are they posting here? Today? Good grief. Everybody knows homeopathic meds are nonsensec bravenak Nov 2016 #1
"Homeopathic swabs?" Archae Nov 2016 #2
Nasal swabs, expensive as hell too bravenak Nov 2016 #3
It makes me sad (actually sick) to see DU used as a repository for pseudo science / quackery etherealtruth Nov 2016 #4
Like the recall of 3 medicines because they contain WhiteTara Nov 2016 #5
On a related note, SpiralHawk is back with a new name...nt SidDithers Nov 2016 #6
Stalking behavior HassleCat Nov 2016 #7
The right's replacement for Obamacare? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 #8
It's perfect.... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #10
Disagree bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #9
I rather suspect that your "simple problems".... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #11
Your suspicions are incredibly off-base bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #12
Homeopathy has been used on livestock for years Merlot Nov 2016 #13
Because they're all SO much smarter than you! 7962 Nov 2016 #14
A quack is a quack. Archae Nov 2016 #15
Politics didnt make my brother in law's back better. A chiropractor did 7962 Nov 2016 #16
And it doesn't work on them either. progressoid Nov 2016 #20
It's just water. Any positive effect you may feel is simply a placebo effect. progressoid Nov 2016 #17
To you and to them, to me it is real medicine and my doctor said so and it works bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #18
It's not from the AMA. It's the National Institute of Health (US) & the National Health Service (UK) progressoid Nov 2016 #21
there might be some good but most seems to be not so much...problem how do you tell dembotoz Nov 2016 #19
yup... progressoid Nov 2016 #22
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. Are they posting here? Today? Good grief. Everybody knows homeopathic meds are nonsensec
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:40 PM
Nov 2016

Might save a few uninformed a few bucks here and there since they have to let consumers know that their product is garbage. My mom especially. She spends like ten bucks a pack on these homeopathic swabs she uses when she gets sick. Goes through four or five packs every time. Waste of money.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
3. Nasal swabs, expensive as hell too
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:49 PM
Nov 2016

She even buys them for me. I begged her to stop wasting money.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
7. Stalking behavior
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 09:10 PM
Nov 2016

Typical of cults. There are organizations which maintain "ready response" teams to flood boards when they detect the truth being told. The anti vaccination crowd was really good at this.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
9. Disagree
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 09:33 PM
Nov 2016

Homeopathy doesn't work all the time, but for simple problems it often
works for me. It's relatively cheap and doesn't do damage, it does
tweak symptoms. I wouldn't use it for serious illness surely. For that I'd
use mainstream medicine, and then consult a naturopath.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
11. I rather suspect that your "simple problems"....
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 09:36 PM
Nov 2016

are mostly related to conditions whose main symtoms include dehydration.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
13. Homeopathy has been used on livestock for years
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 09:47 PM
Nov 2016

I don't understand why people get so upset at the idea of homeopathy. If work for some people, or if people think it's a fraud, who cares? why is it SUCH a point of contention?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
14. Because they're all SO much smarter than you!
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 10:07 PM
Nov 2016

I dont get it either. I remember the medical community going after Chiropractic really hard too. I;ve never used one, but I know several people who had painful issues who no longer do. It worked for them
I know people who love homeopathic stuff and they seem fine as well. Its THEIR choice, as long as harmful stuff isnt being sold

Archae

(46,327 posts)
15. A quack is a quack.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 10:18 PM
Nov 2016

"Standing on my head and reciting Dr Seuss cured my asthma!"

Chriropractic got "acceptance" not due to any science.
They went the political route.

Just like supplements.

Every time, and this is *EVERY* time chiropractic or homeopathy is put to actual scientific scrutiny, it fails.
Completely.

When I get my chronic headaches, I'm not going to find tincture of ringworm that gets advertised on woo websites like "Natural News."

I take a couple generic Excedrin, or if it's really bad I get a couple pills from the local clinic.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
16. Politics didnt make my brother in law's back better. A chiropractor did
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 10:26 PM
Nov 2016

After 2 surgeries did little. So its all in his head? Fine, if it WORKED I dont care.
Sure there are quacks out there & snake oil salesmen. But many of our modern medicines come from nature

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
20. And it doesn't work on them either.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 11:23 PM
Nov 2016

And why is it such a point of contention?

Jacqueline Alderslade. Age: 55 Hollymount, County Mayo, Ireland
A homeopath told her to give up her asthma medication. She later died of an asthma attack.

Isabella Denley. Age: 13 months Kew, Victoria, Australia
Isabella was prescribed medications for her epilepsy. Instead of using them, her parents consulted an iridologist, an applied kinesiologist, a psychic and an osteopath. She was being treated purely with homeopathic medication when she died.


Janeza Podgoršek . Age: 42 Trboje, Slovenia
A physician/homeopath advised him to use homoepathic preventatives for malaria prior to a trip to Africa. After he returned with the disease she continued to treat him with homeopathy. He died

etc.
etc.
etc.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
18. To you and to them, to me it is real medicine and my doctor said so and it works
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 11:06 PM
Nov 2016

It's been working for 30 years? I've experienced 30 years of placebo effect?
Me who is skeptical of everything? I don't think so.

You are entitled to your opinion. It is your reality. It is not mine, and most
importantly, it is my body and not yours and not science's.

I won't even read your mainstream AMA garbage. They are the quacks. They
have made more illness and misery then anything else, and all to control the
patients and line their greedy little pockets. They never cure anything. They
just treat symptoms. Real medicine heals with minimal side effects.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
21. It's not from the AMA. It's the National Institute of Health (US) & the National Health Service (UK)
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 11:38 PM
Nov 2016

Modern medicine saved my Mother from breast cancer, my Father from heart failure, and my children from multiple diseases that a few decades ago could have killed them.

And yes, you can experience the placebo effect for 30 years.

Clearly you aren't skeptical of everything if you think water is a cure for illnesses. Homeopathy = water.



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