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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 11:13 PM Nov 2016

WTH Koch Brothers Want To SHUT DOWN PRIVATIZE VA. Turn VA Care To Private Insurance Voucher.

Just on Rachel Maddow. Individual running Koch front group Concerned Veterans Of American meeting with Trump Tuesday. It is the mission of the Koch brothers and their allies to shut down the Veteran's Administration and turn veterans' health care system into a voucher system. Disabled veterans will get to buy private insurance on the market.

According to Rachel the Koch brothers and their organization is pointing out a crisis in the VA while they are purposely driving the crisis.

NOTHING IS SACRED. I really hate fucking Trump voters for what they have done.

I am a Vietnam veterans who worked with veterans programs at DOL. I am furious. THE KOCH BROTHERS WORKING AT TAKING AWAY VETERANS HEALTH CARE.

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WTH Koch Brothers Want To SHUT DOWN PRIVATIZE VA. Turn VA Care To Private Insurance Voucher. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Nov 2016 OP
Um, they want to privatize Medicare too. frazzled Nov 2016 #1
Sorta like Putin moondust Nov 2016 #8
God that makes me furious!! smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #2
As A Veteran I Have Been Following The Situation For A Year Or So. TheMastersNemesis Nov 2016 #4
This just breaks my heart. It's so wrong. They think nothing of deploying soldiers for their smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #6
All the specialized knowledge and experience that the VA marybourg Nov 2016 #3
PRIVATIZE equals DESTROY VA workinclasszero Nov 2016 #5
They live in fact free zones... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #7
I Would Hope That The River Nov 2016 #9
They Supported Trump TheMastersNemesis Nov 2016 #12
They Won't ProfessorGAC Nov 2016 #22
Privatize everything, highways, post office, schools, medicare, you name it they want it privatized. sarcasmo Nov 2016 #10
And when it is Matthew28 Nov 2016 #15
Kansas was the trial run. sarcasmo Nov 2016 #16
In other words Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 #11
My prediction is that a vet will go after the Kochs, if they are screwed by this. TheBlackAdder Nov 2016 #13
I believe the unrest in this country is going to be massive elmac Nov 2016 #18
They mess with the military, they are sunk. duffyduff Nov 2016 #14
Exactly, but it will not stop them. McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #17
Not going to happen. duffyduff Nov 2016 #19
God I hope you are right. erinlough Nov 2016 #20
Maybe this will wake the veterans up since they overwhelmingly supported the Trumpenfuhrer. Vinca Nov 2016 #21

moondust

(19,979 posts)
8. Sorta like Putin
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:22 AM
Nov 2016

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who I've heard but can't confirm was in the right place at the right time to apparently make himself and some buddies into super rich oligarchs off privatizing Soviet state assets when the Soviet Union collapsed. Maybe Trump and Republicans are sucking up to Pooty to get some tips on how it's done.



"Nobody became rich by building a better mousetrap or by pulling himself up by his bootstraps. Instead, those who succeeded did so thanks to favors granted by—or stolen from—the state. And when the dust settled, Vladimir Putin emerged as king of the thieves."

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
2. God that makes me furious!!
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 11:17 PM
Nov 2016

It makes me absolutely sick how all these millionaires and billionaires want to do is go after the most vulnerable people in society. Their level of evil just astounds me. How fucking dare they!

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
4. As A Veteran I Have Been Following The Situation For A Year Or So.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 11:29 PM
Nov 2016

Actually dismantling the VA was started under Bush. The GOP considers veterans benefits like welfare. They see our wounded and disabled as takers and NOT makers. So this idea has been around for a number of years. Here are the changes that they want. And they will have Trump's ear. And the changes go much farther than just the VA.

Here are the changes they are pushing for VA and the Military.

1. Close VA and turn health care for the wounded into a voucher program.
2. Take TriCare for retirees turn that into a voucher program as well.
3. Privatize military service health by contracting out medical care like MASH units. Medical care in combat zone private.
4. Change military retirement for defined benefit into a 401K system with eligibility at 59 1/2.
5. No more 50% pay with 20 years if service.
6. Turn VA hospitals over to private sector and make it for profit.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. This just breaks my heart. It's so wrong. They think nothing of deploying soldiers for their
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:00 AM
Nov 2016

stupid wars, but when it comes time to support them and take care of them once they return home they treat them like deadbeats.

My brother was just deployed to Mosul AGAIN! He's young and healthy now, but god forbid anything happens over there.

I am sorry for your troubles as well. This is just all so tragic and feels so unfair.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
3. All the specialized knowledge and experience that the VA
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 11:24 PM
Nov 2016

medical staff has will dispersed around the country and vets will be unable to access it locally. Thanks, Kochs.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. PRIVATIZE equals DESTROY VA
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 11:39 PM
Nov 2016

Agree!

We cannot let the reich wing and the news media control the language to make this seem ok or even good.

Privatizing the VA, Medicare/Medicaid, social security etc means the destruction of these programs for most of the Americans that depend on them.

We need to make sure all Americans know this.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
7. They live in fact free zones...
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:05 AM
Nov 2016

The facts are that the fiasco at Walter Reed hospital was traced to fuckups in the privatized areas being handled by civilian contractors.

Privatization is only "better" for the profiteers. Essentially, they want to go back to post Civil War era policies.

The River

(2,615 posts)
9. I Would Hope That
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:47 AM
Nov 2016

the VFW, Am. Legion, DAV, All Military, active and retired and the VA itself
will raise holy hell with that idea. Quickly.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
22. They Won't
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:50 AM
Nov 2016

They are pursuing symbolic gestures of patriotism and worship of the military. Actually fulfilling the bargain struck when those folks signed up is not on the agenda of any of those groups, save the VA.

All that matters to them is nobody kneels for the anthem and we can fly a few $150 million airplanes over the Superbowl.

Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
15. And when it is
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:11 AM
Nov 2016

The poor won't be able to afford it and the only people that will will be at the top. We will be transformed into a third world trash hole.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
18. I believe the unrest in this country is going to be massive
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:15 AM
Nov 2016

on all fronts. I'm afraid its going to be a long & bloody 4 years.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
19. Not going to happen.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:44 AM
Nov 2016

Same with trying to destroy SS and Medicare. Not ever going to happen. There is no mandate from the voters.

erinlough

(2,176 posts)
20. God I hope you are right.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 03:00 AM
Nov 2016

I'm so frightened right now for myself, my husband, and the future of my kids. I can't sleep I'm so worried. I want to keep up on the news but everything I hear stokes my fear. We are really in trouble.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
21. Maybe this will wake the veterans up since they overwhelmingly supported the Trumpenfuhrer.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 08:57 AM
Nov 2016

This is what happens when you only get your news from alt-right sites. Hate-mongering old people will be begging for their Medicare, too.

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