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leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 05:53 PM Nov 2016

Arizona students ruin Jewish teens birthday party with swastika cupcakes because its funny

KPNX reported that the mother of the teen posted images of the cupcakes on social media in hopes of making the incident a teaching moment. The mother said that she believed the party goers knew what the symbol means because they had recently had a lesson at school about the Holocaust.

The girls reportedly told the mother that they did it to “be funny.” In a subsequent Facebook post, the mother said that the girls had apologized.



I honestly don't even know what to say about this. What kind of fucking parents do these kids have that they thought this was funny?

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Arizona students ruin Jewish teens birthday party with swastika cupcakes because its funny (Original Post) leftynyc Nov 2016 OP
Stand strong, everyone. raging moderate Nov 2016 #1
swastika cupcakes, then internment camps Bonx Nov 2016 #4
Are you trying to be funny? Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #8
I think your post leftynyc Nov 2016 #9
When nobody else but you Mendocino Nov 2016 #25
WTF. BigDemVoter Nov 2016 #2
Link Solly Mack Nov 2016 #3
15 year old girls are the second dumbest creatures on the planet gratuitous Nov 2016 #11
I hope you're right about them. Solly Mack Nov 2016 #12
Rampant ignorance. lpbk2713 Nov 2016 #5
I don't think they teach history in school anymore... TheDebbieDee Nov 2016 #6
Where do you think they got the idea to do this? Mariana Nov 2016 #13
unless... djsunyc Nov 2016 #15
On the contrary, had all the required history in high school dembotoz Nov 2016 #22
OMG. how sick is that? DesertFlower Nov 2016 #7
I wish I leftynyc Nov 2016 #10
I had a Mexican kid sieg heil-ing the other day Nevernose Nov 2016 #14
This is who they are Bettie Nov 2016 #16
Now, now. Where's your sense of humor? Behind the Aegis Nov 2016 #17
"What kind of fucking parents do these kids have ..." left-of-center2012 Nov 2016 #18
This is so sad because it says everything Generator Nov 2016 #20
10 says these are the types who are like "I'm not racist, but..."... Initech Nov 2016 #19
Just a reminder... Behind the Aegis Nov 2016 #21
I remember when you leftynyc Nov 2016 #23
How disgusting LeftishBrit Nov 2016 #24
I hope that this young woman's truer friends saltpoint Nov 2016 #26
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
9. I think your post
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 08:05 PM
Nov 2016

Is disgustingly inappropriate. Got anything to say about the ignorance revealed in this story?

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
2. WTF.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 05:56 PM
Nov 2016

Goddamn idiots. Let those assholes spend 24 hours in a concentration camp & let them HOPE it's not of the "extermination" variety & THEN they can say how "funny" it was.

Solly Mack

(90,765 posts)
3. Link
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 06:02 PM
Nov 2016
http://www.12news.com/news/local/valley/birthday-party-marred-by-swastika-cupcakes/356273071

How could they think that would be funny? What the fuck is wrong with those girls?


As a child (and a young child, at that), my mother made a point of teaching us to be aware of prejudice and its impact. To be aware of hate and the damage it causes. Not to turn it into a joke to be laughed at.

The "teaching moment" those girls needed should have come years ago.

If after a lesson on the Holocaust this is what they got from it... Then I despair of any "teaching moment" doing them any good.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. 15 year old girls are the second dumbest creatures on the planet
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 08:13 PM
Nov 2016

Right after 15 year old boys. No, it wasn't funny. No, it wasn't appropriate. I'd be hard on these girls, but not too hard. There is a lesson to be learned, and I'd hate to be held accountable for everything I thought and did when I was a callow lad of 15 (or even 25, 35, 45 or 55). I don't know these girls' situation, but I'd gamble that they're not yet beyond all hope of redemption.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
5. Rampant ignorance.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 06:09 PM
Nov 2016



WW2 is probably ancient history to them but even so someone should have done
a more thorough job of explaining the horror and inhumanity of those years.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
13. Where do you think they got the idea to do this?
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 08:58 PM
Nov 2016

These students wouldn't even know what a swastika is, or that it is relevant in any way to Jewish people, if they hadn't learned about it in history class.

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
22. On the contrary, had all the required history in high school
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:19 PM
Nov 2016

We always ran out of time by the Spanish American war...world war 1 and 2 were never covered as well as the great depression, etc etc....north American exploration like every damn year, anything that had any relevance to modern day....not so much

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
14. I had a Mexican kid sieg heil-ing the other day
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:06 PM
Nov 2016

Maybe a month ago. And when I say "Mexican," I mean "18 months in the US, it's my job to teach him English."

He kept doing it because he thought it was funny. Eventually, after he waited in the hallway while I cooled down, we talked about it (in Spanglish, because that's the best I've got). "It was, like, a hundred years ago. Who cares?"

I still don't know if empathy is something I can teach someone beyond conceptually (as opposed to actually feeling empathy), but at least I got him to understand the inappropriateness.

My point s that it's not just Anglo-Americans and Trump voters. Kids from all nations can be obnoxious, inappropriate little assholes at times. I appreciate the mother who wanted to use this as a teachable moment. Kids are very rarely "bad," they're just kids and kids do stupid shit sometimes.

Bettie

(16,105 posts)
16. This is who they are
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:10 PM
Nov 2016

and who their parents are.

They just feel much more free to express it now that their Dear Orange Leader has explicitly shown that anything goes.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
17. Now, now. Where's your sense of humor?
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:07 PM
Nov 2016

I am sure it was just a joke and it wasn't really tasteless, in fact, the teens were probably just trying to "reclaim" the swastika and, once again, we Jews are showing we have no humor. It is like the Russian ice skaters who preformed a lovely routine in full concentration camp attire and we, Jews, just don't "get it" that is actually a lovely tribute and acknowledgement of the Holocaust.

EXTREME !!!

I almost while writing that, but, personally, that's how some see shit like this! (Don't...just don't...read the comments about the ice skaters in LBN!)

At least we didn't have people 'splaining to us in this thread why this was OK, questioning those who find it offensive, or minimizing it (well, comment sure did).

Missed you! Glad you are back.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
20. This is so sad because it says everything
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:55 PM
Nov 2016

about where our country is going and is at. Hate is "cool" hate is "funny" hate is trending, hate is okay, hate is fun. This is why you cannot let the monster out of the bag. He's everywhere now. I will never forgive those that voted for Trump. No, I don't want to understand their damn economic pain and anger. I was born poor but I wasn't born with hate in my heart. Swastika's on my local elementary school. They didn't even know what it was really-it said Fuck Trump AND Fuck Hillary. All they knew was that hate was the thing-this is what Trump has taught them.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
26. I hope that this young woman's truer friends
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:29 PM
Nov 2016

rallied around her, and reconnected with her to let her know they stood by her.

I hope those truer friendships were strengthened in the wake of the swastika girls' poor and cruel judgment.

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